Mondo

Doesn't the VG30 have an iron block...?

I must admit, I'm not a fan of the Type 3 at all. I know Ian Greenfield likes it though. Why not one of the WinFactory CSL lips, Ash? I debated one for mine before I decided to stay standard.

As you have a Shortie, you could get away with no spoiler at all. As for the spoiler you currently have; there are some angles I really like it from and some that I don't. Seeing as you have a 99 Spec front bumper (and possibly headlights), I think a matching spoiler at the back would look good. Especially as I've not seen many Shorties fitted with one. As for breaking up the colour... paint the trailing edge black, like the old Sapphire Cosworth boot spoilers! :thumbup1: My $0.02 there, Ash :)

She's stunning!! Glad my missus isn't here to see that picture... :lol:

At no point EVER has anyone said that Danny's car isn't up to show standard - the ONLY thing that's EVER been said is that maybe it's not the sort of "classic Z32" for this one particular event! I've said, innumerable times and even to both the owner's face and the builder's, how much I like the car and how great it is. I'd personally love to see it getting the recognition it deserves, which it's already started to do by winning COTY. Danny had an idea and a vision, put it into motion and the end result won Car of the Year. What I take huge exception to is people lying. Darren stated that Danny was upset by comments about his car in this thread, but Danny says that he was never upset. Indeed, the only person he's actually upset (or angry) with is me, for responding to an apparent lie posted earlier in this thread with some flippancy. And the only reason I responded in a flippant matter is because there hadn't been a bad word said about his car!! Can people actually understand this? Nobody's slating the car or saying it's been poorly built or isn't a worthy show exhibit... far from it, in fact. Y'know what, I've had more than enough of this idiocy. I'm getting thinly-veiled and blatant digs from people, and they're all based on my response to someone else's dramatics and/or lies, so I'm officially done with this thread and this whole matter. If I'm going to be the target for someone else's dishonesty, you can go and find yourselves a new scapegoat! :thumbup1:

My "joke" wasn't even directed at you - it was directed at Darren and his outright statement (and, by his own admission, his rant) that you were, and I quote here, "upset" about what had been said! At no point was he implying, stating or suggesting that he was upset about any of it - he quite simply stated that you were. Hence my comments about trying to find a reason for you to be upset when the very worst that's ever been said about your Zed is that perhaps it's not suited for an event where OEM or a close approximation is apparently the expected norm! There's no context for me to play with, Danny; I simply responded to his post. The post where he stated that you were upset. And I'm getting no enjoyment from any of this farcical back and forth whatsoever. So, instead of being angry at me for, perhaps you should be angry at the person who, by all accounts, has outright lied publicly about your feelings and state of mind, just to try and punctuate his own point...?

Bloody Mabel, eh...? :lol: Sorry....

I have this exact set-up on the front of my car and, even with somewhat suspect calipers, the braking effort is markedly improved. :thumbup1: I can't help on the availability of the brackets though, as mine were purchased secondhand but unfitted.

Possibly your heater matrix has been bypassed due to a leak?

Danny, Unless I completely misread Dasstech's post, or on the off-chance that he's referring to someone else with a superbly sorted Zed, he explicitly stated that you were upset by either mine or FunkySi's post. If that isn't the case, then I'd question why he's stating that in the first place! The only reason you or anyone else should build or modify a car is for your own personal tastes, which is what you've done and, as far as I'm aware, the end result has been met with practically universal praise (from myself as well, at JAE, to you and him in person). You seem to have taken great offence at my "Kleenex" statement but I only said that because Dasstech stated that you were upset. Again, if this isn't the case, then there was precisely no point to him saying that it was the case. As you yourself said, very few (if any) cars here are strictly OEM, so the criteria cannot be an OEM vehicle or there would be no Z32 stand. Perhaps we need to know exactly what the organisers are looking for in an entered vehicle, before this thread descends even further into chaos and either misinterpretation or outright misinformation...?

And on that bombshell...! :lol:

Which post has upset who here...? My post, where I praised Danny's car and, indeed, your workmanship on it? If so, then I spectacularly fail to see how either the owner or the builder of the car in question could find anything to get upset about... And with all due respect here, your comment about how so many people have told you that they don't normally like the Z32 but they love Danny's car doesn't really do all that much for raising the profile of the marque or this club - what it undoubtedly does do, however, is raise your profile as a metalworker because, based on what you've said, all these people wouldn't look twice at his car had you not dramatically altered the body ;) I get that you think that your creation is "Carlsberg" as you put it and, as I've said ad nauseum it is a stunning looking car, and you and he should both be very proud of it. If someone says that they don't think it's especially suitable for a certain type of motoring event though, that's no reason to be "upset" as you put it. If there was a very prestigious Show & Shine event on somewhere and I considered putting my car in for it, I would NOT get bent out of shape if someone told me it wasn't the relevant standard for that specific event. And this is no different. Bottom line is this (as I see it): deep down, every one of us believes (on some level, at least) that ours is the best Zed there is. That's perfectly natural. For example, I personally believe that my own interior is the nicest one in this club :) - that doesn't mean that it is and it certainly doesn't mean I'm going to start breaking my heart if someone tells me that they disagree! When I first did my interior, there were a number of people who were undecided on whether they liked it or whether it was suitable for a Z32. I didn't reach for the Kleenex though because, guess what? Everyone is entitled to an opinion, even if it happens to be different to my own :thumbup1: If we modified our cars, however subtly or wildly, solely for the purpose of gaining universal approval, I suspect we'd all spend plenty of time being very upset and disappointed at the lack thereof. Everything is subjective in this scene and everyone likes different things. Still, I can't recall anyone who's said that they dislike Danny's car, so how's that for a big thumbs-up? All anyone is saying is that, in some people's opinions, it may not be suitable for a car show where highly modified cars don't fit the criteria as a rule. That's all. Nothing more than that.

Here's my thoughts: This club, like so many out there, seems to predominantly have three types of owner - those who want their cars to be subtle but improved (OEM+, if you will), those who want to break new ground with their styling or modifications and those who simply view Z32s as a comparatively cheap and fast car, and want to drive it as such. There is precisely nothing inherently wrong with any of these viewpoints. It really is a case of "each to their own" and that helps to keep the club and the cars within it fresh and vibrant. Danny's wide-arch, for example, is beautiful. I had a good look round it at JAE and it's just stunning! It's something that's all but unique, certainly here in the UK, and is a very worthy winner of COTY in my opinion :thumbup1: It's a shining example of what can be done with a Zed with the right combination of imagination, skill and, undoubtedly, money. It really stood out at JAE! The question is, would "classic car buffs" as a collective appreciate it? Or would they consider it sacrilege...? I've worked on a few classic cars over the years and the owners are, by and large, a fussy bunch. They have a serious tendency to like things "as they were meant to be" which would usually mean that extreme modifications like Danny's would be frowned upon, regardless of how well they've been executed. I've known classic owners purposely replace like for like, even if they're knowingly using a part that was sub-par when it was first produced, purely to keep the originality. That's pretty crazy in my opinion, but that's the nature of that scene. So the Classic show at the NEC is primarily for lovers of classic cars to see them as they believe they are supposed to be. As has already been said, it's not a car show like JAE or anything like that - the format and desired visitors are pretty much completely different. The cars that have represented this club in the past have been, like it or not, much closer to the OEM end of the scale, because that's the nature of the show itself. FunkySi: at the point it was exhibited, the only obviously "non-standard" additions were the wheels, exhaust and interior (and paint colour, if you want to be really picky) - everything else looked either as Nissan intended it at the time of production or was an addition from later in the Z32's evolution. And yes, whilst the interior covering was "aftermarket," it still retained all the original seats and panels, with the exception of the steering wheel. JoelyP: again, aside from the wheels, boot spoiler and exhaust, there is nothing noticably "out of the ordinary" about this car. It simply looks like a super-clean example. Even the boot spoiler is basically an updated version of the 89 Spec from Nissan, so that doesn't stand out as a glaring modification. Zebedee: Mandy showed Zeb for what it was: a rarely seen Version R from the end of the Z32's production run. Wheels, exhaust and interior trim are non-standard, but the car is, ultimately, as Nissan intended it to be. JaiKai: a fairly comprehensive rebuild with aftermarket wheels, exhaust and interior. That's pretty much all the untrained eye might pick up. AndrewG: yet again, no obvious changes from Nissan's original design aside from wheels and exhaust. So the cars that have represented 300ZX.co.uk up to this point have all been some of the "more restrained" examples within our club membership. If that's what's expected from a club's attendance at the event, then there's not a great deal to be gained from trying to argue against that (in my opinion). As a club, we have some fantastic cars, but not all of them will be suitable for this kind of show. Using Danny's as the example again, his Zed is perfectly suited to an event such as JAE where the attendees thrive on modifications and the almost-constant crowd around it when it was on Dasstech's trade stand simply confirms that. As I've already said, it's a stunning car and a superb example of what can be done. :thumbup1: This next bit may well make me unpopular, but such is life. Whilst Danny's car is a hugely deserving winner of COTY, I personally don't think it's right for the NEC show. I've listed all the reasons why above. I've met Danny in person and I've even done some work for him, and I have absolutely nothing against him as a person and nothing against his Zed (again, see above) - I simply think that the very nature of the NEC show and it's primary clientbase are at almost direct odds with Danny's build. It's all well and good for someone like Chrisbasildon to say that the members should decide whose car goes to the NEC, but that's not really feasible when the show itself is so, for want of a better phrase, narrow-minded. Realistically, I think there's a very small number of suitable cars on here to choose from that would be suitable for this event. Case in point: there's a car show every year near Nottingham called Japs North (although I don't think that's its official title) and it started out as a classics-only show. There was lots of pressure from local car clubs to have it expanded to encompass all types of car, rather than just bona fide classics, so the organisers opened the doors to the rest of the motoring world. :) When you're there though, there's an enormous sense of "them and us" between the modified brigade and the classic-lovers. That's because, by and large, the classic lovers aren't into modified cars. I've personally seen "classic-lovers" turn their noses up at my friend's immaculate and beautiful Celica GT-Four there, because it's simply not to their taste! There. I've said my bit. If it makes me unpopular then I'll deal with that, but I haven't insulted or belittled anybody so, hopefully, people will read this and see that it's simply my thoughts about a specific event in the motoring calendar and our club's participation in it. :)

Common sense prevailed the very same day, thankfully :) We'll just be sticking with the two deranged hounds! :lol:

I quite a few years ago using Champix - it was ludicrously easy and I was a non-smoker for a year or so. :) But then I decided to try one, just to prove I could and not start again, and that was pretty much the end of that! :( Keep up the good work, Ted :thumbup1:

Ok, I'm possibly back on the lookout for a blue tint rear windscreen - must be for a SWB!! I know one changed hands fairly recently, but whether there are any others lurking out there........

Altia supplied illuminated ones as an option from new, along with the illuminated rear panel and rear quarter shades. I've personally never seen a Z32 with either a Z33 or Z34 sill plate fitted....

So much want here.... :pinch:

I love you... I just wanted you to know that :thumbup1: :lol:

I don't think Fran was lagging too far behind them at JAE...! ;)

It's his own metal wide-arched creation.

I remember it looming large in my rearview in Cumbria and thinking "Christ, that looks evil!!" And then thinking "Christ, I hope he stops before he hits me...!" :lol:

Er..... ok! :biggrin:

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Looks good, that - well done! :thumbup1: