dicky96

Cheers Paul, you're added to the list

Does that mean you are coming this year Jeff? OK let's start a list then - if we get near to 10 then I will pay for the passes and hope for the best If we get more that 10 all the better I will order more passes Onslow dicky96 PaulR

After the success of the Trentham classic car show there seems to be some interest in the event at Shugborough Hall, Staffordshire This is another large show, 1000+ vehicles, organised by the same promoters as Trentham Gardens Shugborough Hall is a large National Trust Stately Home set in rural Stafforshire. It is particularly nice for families as the hall has a 'working' olden days farm and kitchens where the staff are dressed up in period costume showing how life was lived back in the day Info on Shugborough is here : http://www.shugborough.org.uk/Homepage.aspx Info on the car show is here : http://www.transtarpromotions.com/ShugboroughHall2013.html Shugborough Hall is situated approx 6 miles from J13 of the M6 I requested some info from the orgaisers, as follows Hi Richard Thank you for your email and glad you all enjoyed the day at Trentham Gardens last weekend. 10 cars will be fine for a club stand at Shugborough. Entry fee is £3.50 per exhibit which allows driver plus one other adult and up to two children under 16 into the event but they must be in the vehicle coming in. Entries usually close on this event four weeks beforehand due to the popularity of the event. Entry includes access to the grounds and gardens. Entry to the mansion house and working farm is at additional cost. Linda Now bear in mind this event clashes with 'Zedfest'. I would like to attend (and my car should be fixed well before then :clap:), and I believe there are a few others already wishing to exhibit. If there is sufficient interest we need to be booking a club stand within the next couple weeks. I will also post up details for this show on zclub.net Rich

Jeff has today phoned and offered to rectify the problems at no cost to me, he asked I take the turbos off my old engine. I now have the old one removed from the nearside and will get the offside one off in the morning Re transporting my car back to you Jeff, as it is not drivable, I have a local quote £20 less than the recovery guy you use has quoted. If your guy is able to match the price I would happily have him collect the car, otehrwise I can arrange transport to you Thank you Jeff for sorting this out for me :biggrin: Re the rusty engine pulley, this sounds like I have stored the engine somwhere it can get wet, and therefore contributed to the problems. This is not the case, it was stored within an old car wash behind a local garage (friend of my dads) , where I also garage my car during the winter as I don't have a garage at home I got some pics today to show where the engine was stored (and my spare one is now) just to dispell the opinion it was badly stored and got wet Rich

Noel, I honestly can't fault you for the way you have responded to this problem both on the phone and on this thread, I think that is a credit to yourself. I think what you are referring to about facts not being disclosed must be about the timescale of the engine fit which I explained to you, and seeing as these are simply facts I have no problem posting them here either. The engine was delivered to Zedworld on 9th May by myslef in our van together with the car, explaining I would be away until 5th June The instructions were to check it over, replace bottom end bearings, have a look down the bores and check anything else needed to make sure it was in good order Having had a quote for refurbishing the turbos I simply did not have the funds to do so at the moment so asked that the best two be selected instead. I said if any odd things crop up and they were only small amounts (£20 - £40 quid say) just get them done without asking me I asked for a one piece prop shaft as the centre bearing on mine was bad I asked a few other things (problem with front wheels catching on arch liner, loose interior trim, and sterring wheel not on quite straight) to be looked at as well I left my mobile phone number and said if there are any problems I need to know about, give me a call or text and I would call back. I did not recieve any calls or texts. I then went on holiday to Spain and did not return until 5th June I called Zedworld on 6th June to see if I could collect the car. It was not ready Apparently the engine had taken a lot longer to prep than expected (they said due to the way the engine had been removed from the donor car and some isuues with the powder coated plenum having coating in some of hte threads) and was told there was no point removing my old one until the new one was ready. This was 4 weeks after dropping the car and engine off I explained I really needed my car back for the Trentham show (it would have been rather embarrassing if I could not make it!) I was told that they would work over the weekend and the car would be ready Tuesday. Also there would be some addition cost due to extra prep work required I then recieved a message to say it would be ready Weds. Apparently after fitting the engine, a metal water pipe on the rear engine sprang a leak on a corner joint (he showed it to me later) and it was difficult to change with the engine in situ, but Jeff managed to do it. On Weds I was told the car was ready but the one-piece prop would not be available until Thursday for reasons outside their control. However this would not prevent them testing the engine and running conzult. The prop shaft would be fitted Thursday once it arrived On Thurs about 1pm I set off with the van, I got a call about 40mins later (we had got to M6 J8 by then) to say the car was ready to collect On arrival (20 mins later) the car was ticking over with the conzult computer attached and it was showing no errors Jeff told me he had not road tested the car but everything looked fine, the engine had started first time once fitted which is unusual for an engine that had been standing, and it sounded sweet. I asked what work had been done and if bottom end bearings had been changed. I have explained earlier on this thread that they had not and the reasons given. I paid the original quoted amount (which should have included bottom end work which was not done) plus approx £200 on top for extra work. I think the above is everything we went through on the phone Noel? And my reason for not mentioning this in public previously I gave you as 'not wishing to cast stones in anyones direction' However I can see your concerns about 'public' opinion on what has gone wrong here and how this thread reads, so for all to see I have posted here the timescale of work at Zedworld. Anyway that is the sequence of events I explained on the phone. How the front of this engine got so rusty I just don't know. You were there when we put plastic sheeting over it and tied rope around.. Two days later it was indoors. When you pop over I will show you where it was stored, as is my old engine now. I don't remember it being that rusty and neither does my friend who helped take off the plenum and transport the engine. However where we stored it has no lighting or windows (just light from the roller shutter when it is opened) so it was a bit dull in there to see properly. Yeah I expect to accept some cost. Mostly now I am wondering how much to would cost to rebuild my spare turbos (or replace them with something else/better?) I never had a problem with the turbos on my old engine and have no reason to doubt them but it does make sense doesn't it. If I rebuild I would probably upgrade so at least I get something extra for my money. Regards other damage I don't know. The oil never got dangerously low, when I brought the car back up from Zedworld (55 miles) it went below the bottom of the dipstick, but only took 1/2 litre approx to get it about 1/4 way up the scale. Obviously then I filled it to max before the 10-12 miles trip to Trentham and back. I just checked it this morning and it's a bit over 1/2. Does that sound like it would have caused damage? The last thing I am still not sure of, is it like I have another another oil leak causing the plugs to clog up on that bank, seeing as there is no sign of oil in the IC piping? I am away next weekend on a minicruise with freinds. Although not in a urgent rush I would lilke to be able to enjoy my car during the summer. As it is off road right now sods law says it will be a 'proper' sunny one this year (something we not seen in the North West for some years) so if the weather is good thank me folks (but no egging Mark/Noel on to delay until October!!! LOL Rich OH PS - of the 'few extra things' only the loose trim was fixed Rich

Watching your other videos m8 of the rest of the car stands just shows to me: Just how much effort our fellow Zed owners put into making the cars look so good and shiny on the day How much attention our stand was attracting compared to others And How damn fookin' sexy the Zed looks 'in the metal' !! Honourable repect for the DeLorians and KITT :punk: And What show organiser pratt put 300ZK on our club stand sign!!! :asshole:

OK Noel I hear what you are saying and in fairness a lot of folks at the show also said this engine sounds far too good and runs too smooth to have a major mechanical problem - and that must be the best news I could hear. But where does this leave me now really? I have one apparently good engine, bought in good faith and installed by one respected mechanic but I still have loads of problems that should not have happened. I also have my old engine inc turbos. If I understand what you and Mark are saying correctly this is not so much a matter of parts as it is of the skills and time to put this right. I freely admit I can't do this myself though I want to do as much as I can, and learn at the same time. I can most likely arrange use of proper garage facilities locally (ramps etc) for a day or two. If any assistance is in the offerring it would be very much appreciated. I hope that is not too big an ask. Other than that I guess I just have to pay out again to get my car back on the road Rich

Nice one Andy, I'll bet you're well made up with that result! Rich

Guy at garage said oil feed line was leaking - don't know if that is accurate or not so take it with a pinch of salt He showed me this - when he pushed his finger against what looked like a small pipe feeding towards the top of the turbo, a load of oil ran down I tried to get a pic but it was too cramped to get a good one

Just checked one of the other suggestions - there is no smoke coming out of the oil filler cap with it removed and engine ticking over I'm not sure what is meant by 'blowby' Rich

Second set Would the turbo problem also explain all the oil esp in cylinder 6 and on the plugs, and the cylinder drop-out ?. This turbo is the same side that is smoking bad

Well I am not sure if this is the only problem I have (unless someone can explain how this would cause so much oil to get into the nearside cylinder bank) However I would have to say the nearside turbo is 'not a happy bunny' even though i am not a mechanic Also there seems to be rather a lot of oil under the car in general, on oil feed pipe to turbo, gearbox housing etc He didnt' drop the other side pipe (even though I asked) and says it is all dry around there Also one of the pins is broken off the turbo elbow and there is a nut and bolt in it's place. The elbows are not on my old engine where I got it back - I don't know if this one is off the new engine or old but the garage mechaic said it's 'not very clever' So here is some pics (two sets) Rich Set 1

PMSL :lol::lol::lol:

Classic car show 11th August. Please note this clashes with Zedfest http://www.transtarpromotions.com/ShugboroughHall2013.html It's a big show with 1000+ vehicles attending I intend to go myself if my car is sorted in time I have emailed the organisers today (which are same ones as Trentham) with a few questions How many cars we need for a club stand Cost and how many pasengers per car Closing date for entries If there is sufficient interest I will be happy to organise this event (as long as that is also OK with Noel of course who is REO for Midlands area) Rich

Mmm cheers for the pics and video guys, it brings back memories of a great day out When you look at the scale of this show and just how many cars were exhibited, I feel we did really well attracting the attention we did to our display Steve your pics slook superb m8 Rich

The downpipes are being dropped today - then I can get some pics as requested No I havent' actually and don't know if anyone else has either - I can try this later If some bright sparks want's to start a FOTM (fault of the month) poll can I enter my car for June please, I think I'm in with a good chance here :clown:

OK This will be done tomorrow (as long as garage not too busy) Rich

Just re-read this post m8. It's the nearside bank that has all the oil on it. (I called them 2,4,6 hope this has not caused confusion) and the nearside exhaust that has the smoke too. Does this mean you now want me to drop the nearside downpipe? Rich

OK well in that case then Jeff says they are good. Probably.

1. OK Will do Noel - the car is still on the ramps anyway 2. Yes that is what Jeff told me, and is why he didnt' change them as I had requested. He also said that with the sump off he could tell all the pistons were OK as well, though he didn't explain how he could tell that. Rich

Ahh that's good to hear m8, much appreciated :biggrin: I'll get the garage to put the car back together in the morning. Good news from my point of view is I am pretty much free anytime at the moment as this is my quiet time of year, work wise. Rich

Yeah they were also tested by the local garage yesterday - results came back 180 on all cylinders. He tested them cold and again when warmed up. So tahts three times they were checked by Noel, Jeff and the local guy Rich

Ahh perhaps it wouldn't be a good idea then

JeffTT comp tested the engine and told me they were all 'within spec'. Maybe he can tell if they were all 180 Also I think Noel comp tested this engine - do you remember the results?

Pretty much so, yep. And 95% of the smoke is coming from the passenger side exhaust too. Plugs on the drivers side look clean (see middle one on pic I uploaded with three plugs shown, that came from drivers side) http://www.300zx.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?170333-Lots-of-white-smoke-when-revving-engine&p=1740181&viewfull=1#post1740181