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Is that supposed to be a race ?? maybe I'm lookin at the wrong clip, some car following a Z? Saw that start Jaffa, 1st gear in a rex is amazin, when the 2nd turbo kicks in its near impossible not to over rev the redline at 8k rpm as it all happens so quick lol.

Hard luck Chewie, is that about £800 you pay for road tax? How much is a litre of unleaded there? Shell optimax is about 92p / litre here. Unleaded is about 85p. What a rip off! Do you still have some smoking pubs? Are ppl generally happy with the smoking ban? Sounds like I would move if I lived there!

I dont think there are bridge cameras mate, there are some gatso's though and safety camera vans will be permanently scamming from the bridges. I drove back from Swindon this afternoon and CHAOS! Two seperate major accidents and long tail backs. Why do these people want to encourage tailgating at 70 on a motorway??! I saw one camera van on a bridge, didn't he just make the M4 a safer place today! Reckon there will be many more accidents aslong as these idiots continue with this.

Hi all, Have any of you tried proxes T1-R, gotta get new tyres this week so it's either them or GSD3's or Bridgestone SO3's, any opinions please.. :-)

So was it a trafpol? They dont need video evidence afaik, dont know why they would have said that? They can nick him just by using their own speedo reading. Having said that, if they said they have video footage I dont think it's unreasonable to ask to see it, especially if your mates speedo wasn't working at the time, just for his own peace of mind. If they deffo said they have it and it turns out they dont, it could be a technicality to work with. If it was a serious speed I would see a good speeding solicitor.

Any1 watching sky news, there's been another quake 8.5 r/s same place, they dont know yet if the same places will get a tsunami again within next 3 hours. Lets hope they get a warning this time.

Ok so it seems alot but fair play to him I say, if you dont ask you dont get, if a Z lover has got the money they'll pay it I reckon. You guys should'nt be slagging him off, dont you want decent Z prices?

Sold my RX-7 to look for another Z, I wanted a swb manual tt but no luck in finding one yet, now I've gone and bought this today..... what happened lol. It's great fun to drive tho :-)

I use PIA silicon wipers, they're expensive but honestly they're worth it! No squeaking or juddering, you can even use them on a dry screen and they're smooth as silk. About 30 quid I think.

Looked at the pic and didn't know what they were , thought Hyundai at first lol!

Check the bit about abolishing VED, raising fuel tax, then increasing the registration fee.

Dave , have you seen this from the ABD website, they want to make you pay for declaring SORN too! Unbelievable! It's old news now but you may not have seen it, most motorists dont know about it or care it seems, unfortunately. QUOTE: DVLA Plan to Introduce Annual "Registration Tax" on all Vehicles. New Tax to Hit "Laid Up" Classics and Disabled Drivers. A consultation document recently issued by the DVLA details plans to introduce a new tax on all cars registered on their system, even ones that are not used on the road by their owners. The "Fee Proposals" consultation, which closes on 8 November, claims the new tax is necessary to cover the costs of issuing photo licences to all drivers, as required by the European Union. An annual fee of £4.50 is proposed on all vehicles kept on the DVLA's computer. For most cars used on the road, this extra tax will be collected with the Vehicle Excise Duty (formerly called road tax). However, it will also apply to disabled drivers, pre-1973 classics and cars kept off road under the SORN (Statutory off Road Notification) regulations. None of these categories currently pay VED, so this will be an entirely new and separate tax. "This means that people are going to have to pay tax to keep their own vehicles in their own garage," said ABD spokesman Nigel Humphries. "£4.50 a year may not sound much, in fact it hardly seems worth the DVLA's trouble to collect it where this cannot be done through VED. But it's a dangerous precedent, and a matter of principle. Why should we pay anything for the details of our property merely to be held on someone's computer?" Enthusiasts often have several cars kept off road — future projects, possible parts cars, "saved" cars they hope to pass on to others to restore — and they will have to write out and send off a separate cheque for each vehicle every year, as the off-the-road anniversary of registration arises. The DVLA will then have to bank them. That's a lot of trouble and expense for nothing, and how much will the DVLA have left of the money after it has administered this bureaucratic leviathan on behalf of one hapless individual? "And who is to say that the fee will remain at £4.50?" continued Humphries. "The government has a long history of introducing taxes at low levels and then increasing them year on year, and people are reluctant to trust their assurances. This new registration tax gives them a mechanism for abolishing VED, adding the cost of this to fuel tax and then increasing the registration fee, automatically wiping out the benefits enjoyed by ultra low mileage classic car owners and disabled drivers alike, as well as creating a punitive charge for those storing cars off road. That is why it is to be resisted." The ABD calls on the DVLA to see sense and desist from penalising classic car owners, disabled drivers and car collectors with this pointless and bureaucratic system. Motorists pay £36 billion a year to the government in motoring related taxes. If the European Union wants photo licences there is plenty here to pay for it. Note - Consultation document is available at http://www.dvla.gov.uk/public/consult/driver_fee/df_summary.htm Consultation responses to donna.woods@dvla.gsi.gov.uk by 8th November 2004. END QUOTE.

Someone just posted this on another forum, it seems you shouldn't always be too hasty in accepting the 'law is the law' and sending off your 60 quid :-) QUOTE "Got home last night to a letter from plod informing me of their intention to prosecute me for driving at 59mph through a stealth tax collection device at Ryton flyover on the A45 heading towards Coventry. Initial thoughts were to send off my licence for it's 3 gold stars for good driving, but then I remembered the circumstances... As the A45 has several such stealth tax collection devices on it which I have driven past many hundreds of times, I found it a little unlikely that on this particular moring I'd decided to speed past it. Thinking back, I remembered the morning in question...I was getting tailgated by a driver in a people carrier (nice one love, I'm sure your bus will outbrake my Alfa and whiplash is such great fun...) who then decided to go for the classic overtaking manoevre right past the camera. The camera was one of those driver facing one picture types, a "Truevlo" I believe, rather than the back of car facing "Gatso" type with multiple stripes on the road. As it flashed I checked my speed (50mph officer) and turned to look at her...big blue Galaxy, and going about 10mph more than me. So today I phoned the Warwickshire Casualty Reduction Partership (yeah, whatever...) and got passed from pillar to post before speaking to a helpful person called Ginny who had a look at the picture, spoke to her superior and agreed that in this case the picture was "inconclusive" and charges would be dropped. Apparently the cameras sometimes "do odd things" etc etc. I challenged her and said that no, nothing odd had happened, someone had committed an offence (yeah, like driving a Galaxy...) and the camera had recorded it, it just so happened that you thought you might try to nail me for it at the same time and get another £60.00 to go to Reichsmarchall Brown. I think it's a ******* disgrace that I ever recieved that notice of prosecution in the first place, and I wonder just how many drivers out there have paid up and are driving with points when they have done nothing wrong. I'd love to know how Plod actaully calibrates the Truevlos to differentiate between two vehicles travelling parallel at different speeds on one photo, and would I have been able to argue if some divvy had been undertaking me on the inside at 100mph? What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty...surely if one phone call sorted the problem there should be some safeguard in place from the start ensuring that if two cars are in shot then only the offending one gets nicked...presuming plod can tell the difference. Oh well, moral of the story...INSIST on seeing the picture and challenge it EVERY TIME. I've a bloody good mind to ask for a copy of the pic of me alledgedly (OK probably...) hooning my old MX5 down a Welsh A-Road..."

Roy, you forgot : Was I driving safely at the time? Probably yes? Do I believe safe driving should be punished and what's the benefit? I wont argue anymore, I can see you're all stuck in your ways and that's fair enough :-) Thanks for some positive comments btw Mark.

Yes that's right. They dont improve road safety. But apparently that's not the point. Take it you had no luck with your insuarance btw? Gio, you obviously dont live in Somerset, here mobile cameras are rife and can easily nick even the most observant of drivers. I think your opinions would change slightly should your clean licence acquire 3 points from a hidden trap or maybe 12 points from 4 hidden traps? But we're British after all, so pay up and take it on the chin, follow Gio/ Scoops/ Roy/ Billy 's example, I hope you dont all get camera'd soon but if you do remember to send your 60 quids off with a smile :-)

I have the same opinion jock, normally! But lets remember it wasn't long ago he wanted zero tolerance, 31 in a 30 and you're nicked, and probably still does. Hate to say it but a leopard doesn't change it's spots. There's nothing I'd like to see more than his resignation, it's too serious a matter for him to be given a second chance, twist the knife and get rid I say. He deserves it.

And that is exactly my point! I can assure you, you wont get ant good treatment / discretion at all from a speed camera.

Please tell me why then, they are going to ban radar detectors? Legislation will be coming soon. GPS based detectors will still be legal but that's only on a technicality they cant get around...yet. Speed deliberately and consistently?? LOL any such person deserves what they may get I agree, but you're obviously missing the point that the massive majority of speeding fines are being paid by the average motorist who gets nicked when travelling at an ordinary every day safe speed. That has absolutely nothing to do with making roads safer, but everything to do with enforcing a draconian law for the laws sake, not to mention a very nice financial gain. I cannot understand how you can support that. It doesn't improve road safety one iota. Only real traffic police officers can do that by using their discretion and not nicking safe drivers like the so called safety camera partnerships do.

Nice idea Roy, but we're talking about the real world here :-) That idea wouldn't work anyway, because as sure as eggs are eggs, the speed limits would be lowered and lowered untill they made sure the camera revenue could be continued.

For those that dont know, Richard Brunstrom is the top cop in the Association of Chief Police Officers. He has always been an avid supporter of speed cameras, even calling for zero tolerance cameras only a few months ago. He is widely regarded as an over-zealous camera nazi. If this article is correct, he has now admitted what alot of us have known for along time, speed cameras dont work! I think he should now resign. http://www.sundaymirror.co.uk/news/tm_objectid=15288834&method=full&siteid=106694&headline=no-more-speed-cameras-says-top-cop-name_page.html NO MORE SPEED CAMERAS SAYS TOP COP Mar 13 2005 Exclusive By Andrew Baxter BRITAIN's top traffic cop is calling for a halt on any more speed cameras insisting: "Enough's enough." Chief Constable Richard Brunstrom has made the amazing U-turn after admitting that the policy is failing to end the carnage on the roads. "We have 6,000 cameras in the UK covering every identifiable hotspot, yet road deaths have gone up," said Mr Brunstrom, head of road policing at the Association of Chief Police Officers. "We can't keep on going until there is a camera on each lamppost. We've got to stop somewhere." The ACPO wants to double the number of cameras to 12,000, but Mr Brunstrom called for a rethink after latest figures showed 3,508 died on our roads in 2003 - the highest figure since 1997. And last year deaths and serious injuries actually increased at one camera site in seven, even though 2.2millon drivers were fined and had three points put on their licence. Mr Brunstrom wants a softly-softly approach with vehicle-activated signs warning drivers to slow down. "When we look at deaths on the roads we discover we're dreadfully out of step," he said. "We want to create a culture where cameras are friends." The transport lab TRL found the vehicle-activated signs, which cost £5,000 each, led to a 7mph fall in average speeds along with a 34 per cent reduction in accidents. This compares with a 3.7mph cut in speeds and 14 per cent reduction in accidents where speed cameras costing £30,000 are installed. news@sundaymirror.co.uk

But that's what the protest is all about, blatant revenue raising. Apparently, even Brunstrom has seen the light!!

You're right, the law isn't flexible, but as it stands it doesn't improve road safety one iota and that's very wrong. At present we have a law that virtually every single motorist in the land breaks. So we all run the risk of being caught and punished with a fine and penalty points every time we drive for doing nothing more than driving safely. It's all very well to say if you dont speed then you wont get fined, but what the hell has that got to do with road safety? 99%+ of people paying their fine were driving safely at the time of being caught on camera, and even if they were driving dangerously they dont get told of it untill two weeks later when the NIP arrives! How about telling them at the time, might prevent an accident? As you may be aware, since the formation of 'Safety Camera Partnerships' and despite all their speed enforcement efforts, the fatality rate on UK roads is now rising after years of decline. More people than ever are now being fined and have penalty points on their licence, the revenue from speeding is colossal, yet the fatality rate doesn't drop? Obviously, replacing real traffic police officers with mobile camera vans does not work. However it does give the government a cheap, self financing road safety policy, but tragically IT FAILS miserably to prevent deaths on the road. Safe driving cannot ever be judged by a camera in my opinion. The emphasis should be on making roads safer and lowering the fatality rate rather than nicking the average driver doing an average speed safely which you seem happy to accept scoops/Roy? Comparing a speeding offence to murder is just what they like to hear, you're not a member of Transport2000 are you? I guess it boils down to : if you're happy with things as they are do nothing, or if you want to see the end of SCP's and the end of the camera stealth tax, then make your voice heard.

Kenny, that was a mouthfull mate, but yes some good points, especially about the bunch of morons with cloth ears. To them, speed enforcement is the magical answer, re-engineering the road? - no that would involve common sense (and not make money)and that they do not possess!

Hi all, A protest is being organised, please read on and contact John for updates. Many thanks. The time has come to stand and be counted. Enough is enough! I’m guessing that there are many people who are getting kinda fed up with the ridiculous amounts of gatso’s kicking about and laser vans etc. etc. etc who are operating under the veil of being for safety when actually they are there to generate revenue – pure and simple. It’s seems that the humble motorist weather it be someone who has a performance car – or classic car, or just a bog standard car is being penalised due to the over zealous speed enforcement that occurs in this country. We all enjoy driving and we are being taxed to pieces due to petrol tax, road tax and now the speeding tax. So I propose we protest about it. Cause a bit of a commotion. Get noticed. Prove a point. Kick Off! Basically the argument is that the speed camera is now not being used as a safety, life saving device – but a revenue device for the government – instead of being used in areas where these installations (whether fixed of mobile) would reduce accidents – they are being more commonly used in areas where it’s dead easy to catch someone slightly straying over an unrealistically low speed limit . It’s not ok any more – driving used to be a pleasurable experience – now it’s ruined due to having to spend each and every moment checking you speedometer. I’m proposing that on the 1st August we do something. Namely a mass protest by narked motorists who are prepared to get on the road to make a stand AND MAKE A DIFFERENCE. Starting at Carlisle in the early hours as many of us as possible will drive down through the country – on mass – without breaking a single speed limit – or any law. But our route (which will be decided nearer the time – for obvious reasons) will cause a great deal of congestion and disruption – but hopefully we will be backed by the majority of the motoring public, who too feel aggrieved by how the roads are now policed. I know there are many arguments about road safety and correct driving – I’m not proposing we should protest about any reasonable law – but a law that is broken by so many, so often, is surely a law that should be changed. If you know of other people in other car clubs, or know of other car club forums where it would be a good idea to post a link to our revolution get on there and do it. Let me know where else this is being posted so I can get stuck in and get this co-ordinated. NOW IS TIME FOR A CHANGE! VIVE LA REVOLUTION!!!! email me john@themusiccellar.fsnet.co.uk and I'll count you in and put you on a list so that you get all the developments! Thanks folks, Euphonium_John

Can you go back to the side road where he was parked and pace out 233 metres back towards the NSL/40 sign. It may be worth checking if the 40 speed limit has recently been introduced at that spot and if so is it legal? It's not unknown for the signs to be incorrectly placed either. Some guy recently got off a speeding charge because of this. More info at http://www.abd.org.uk Good luck mate,