Has anyone got opinions on the real driving difference between a TT and a NA can't seem to find a nice TT to buy at the minute, yesterday I drove 240 miles to view an "Immaculate" zed but it was far from that! Should I hold on till spring next year for a TT or is a NA a real option? Thanks

I love my NA. But I'm not a fan of FI at all really.

Obviously an NA has a fair chunk less power, and no turbo kick, but I don't view that as a bad thing. I just drive to the cars ability.

There is obviously less worry involved with an NA too as there are no turbos to worry about.

 

You need to drive both and see if you like an NA compared to a TT

Very few na owners don't want to upgrade to tt at some stage. At low speeds the gearing of the na makes it feel as quick as a stock tt but once you start building any speed ie over 40mph the tt just takes off. If it's been remapped even more so.

I've owned a couple of each, my latest is a slicktop TT but i have to be honest driving my old na the other day (my dad owns it now) i still love it more, the sound off an NA is so much nicer and the torque is better at bottom end :)

 

The TT is a little stifled in the exhaust due to the turbos getting in the way and it is like driving an elastic band especially in the auto when occasionally you want to go and the gearbox/engine aren't quite ready.

 

Get a nice manual NA and you won't be disappointed especially with a decent set of tubular manifolds and low restriction exhaust

I have had two NA's they where fine to drive but I didn't have them long has I always wanted a TT which I now have the only way I would have another NA is if it was going to be a daily driver!

Personally, I would only be interested in owning a TT, for me that's the model variant that defines the Z32. See if you can

find someone who has an NA to let you drive it, if only to get that out of your system! As I said before, just bide your time,

the right one will come along for you, particularly with your 5k budget available. BTW, it would help if you subscribed, if

only so that members can PM you when good cars come up for sale. You will get an email notification that you have a PM, so

you can respond quicker.

I've owned a na primarily then a tt and I liked them both but nothing beats the kick from a tt.

I have a tt auto now and before that I had a na manual (both daily drivers).

if given the choice I would happily go back to the n/a manual over the tt auto!

don't get me wrong, I love the tt, especially the endless power from the tubs! but the 300 really needs a manual gearbox to feel like the true sports car it is intended to be!

either way you go, tt or na you will have buckets of fun available to you via your right foot!

get a tt its a big car and needs all the help it can get to push it along

We've got a TT manual and an NA Auto

 

They are completely different, though both have more than enough power

 

The TT is a real beast and NA is really smooth, but with the power there when you need it

 

With the TT it's more about about having good brakes to stop it with !

Its strange you dont see many tuned up NA cars. They werent that far off the tt in power arent they 240bhp? And a bit lighter? I bet a swb slick manual NA with some tuning would be wicked!

over the years I have had many cars lotus elise 2.8 z3 Porsche 944 Porsche boxster 3.2 and many other all na cars now I have spent heaps of cash tuning them all up for more power and you end up spend loads and getting little back in the way of bhp turbos cars on the other hand you can spend a lot less and get a good return in power for you money just wish I had done this years ago

Its strange you dont see many tuned up NA cars. They werent that far off the tt in power arent they 240bhp? And a bit lighter? I bet a swb slick manual NA with some tuning would be wicked!

 

Yep! It is.

Its strange you dont see many tuned up NA cars. They werent that far off the tt in power arent they 240bhp? And a bit lighter? I bet a swb slick manual NA with some tuning would be wicked!

 

They were nearer 225bhp mate. Which is still good for a 3L v6 na.

I would take a SWB/Slicktop NA Manual over a LWB TT Auto, and it would be faster on the road (stock for stock).

 

The LWB TT Auto is only 263hp, weigh's 160kg more (than the slicktop NA manual), and loses even more power to the rear wheels through the autobox. Plus the slushy nature of autobox delivery compared to a Manual and the responsive nature of the NA engine.

 

I would still take a TT Manual over anything else though.

Edited December 11, 201312 yr by Yowser

Don't forget the difference in torques between the NA and TT - "Torque gets you off the line, HP gets you over the line"

 

For stock MT cars:

 

222bhp at 6,400rpm vs 280PS at 6,400 (figures for UK/Euro TT cars, 1PS = 0.98bhp)

198lf/ft at 4,800rpm vs 275lb/ft at 3,600

 

So you get a big increase in torques in TTs over NAs and peak torques arrives 1,200rpm sooner.

Edited December 11, 201312 yr by AndrewG

Tbf any discussion on the power of a tt not being that much more is arbitrary. The power difference is the same as most family saloons in 1990. Also bear in mind that the z32 is detuned. Being the first car to abide to the Japanese hp agreement. The mapping is crap and the boost is pretty low stock. Hence the reason even a mild chip makes a massive difference.

I went out in Hellraisers swb na manual and it did feel pretty pokey but lacked the same grunt higher up, in sure the diff comes into play here.

In a straight line a manual na would take a tt till about 40mph at which point the tt even auto would then walk past and make serious gains. On a circuit it would be down to the driver....

Thing is if you haven't had both you will always want the tt, I had a 130hp Capri lighter than the 2.8 probably sod all in it head to head, didn't stop me always wanting the full fat version. That's why I refused to buy an na z32

@chrisbasildon - which cars have you looked at now (I assume they are advertised on ebay or gumtree etc) and what was the problems you found?

 

Reason for asking, me and a mate were thinking of heading down south to look at a couple cars currently for sale and you could save us some time. Plus the one you went 240 miles must be somewhere nearer to me?

 

Rich

Viewed one in Manchester on pre loved, grey TT auto, had been badly resprayed turned out it had no history 6months mot not 12 as advertised and had no tax. Smokey left hand tailpipe too,

 

Another TT auto in Sussex on car and classic, total rot box! Apparently it was solid when I spoke on phone to owner, must have rusted away during the time it took me to drive to see it?? Lol

@chrisbasildon - which cars have you looked at now (I assume they are advertised on ebay or gumtree etc) and what was the problems you found?

 

Reason for asking, me and a mate were thinking of heading down south to look at a couple cars currently for sale and you could save us some time. Plus the one you went 240 miles must be somewhere nearer to me?

 

Rich

 

Let me know if your looking at something near mate, keep seeing a yellow one for sale in fareham no idea about it though.

A no brainer always TT :) my first z was na. They look the same :) but they don't drive the same :)

Yeah I have. My Z32 is a TT Manual, I drive an NA over in the US. It's a decent cruiser, but after being used to the TT power delivery and the more refined and exotic engine note, I wouldn't really desire to own one. I think the Twin Turbo engine is a fantastic unit. Not the easiest engine to work on, but if you maintain it, you'll never really have any problems. When I set out to buy a Z32 originally, the only choice was a Twin Turbo manual and that is what bought.

Slick Pete's slicktop is an na manual and currently tuned up on a standard NA engine getting ready to drop in his cammed, ported 3.1(i think) - the current car runs lovely and sounds like a TVR Tuscan :)

 

My old NA had TT injectors, tubular manifolds and a straight through exhaust and as far as i'm aware still holds the record for the fastest time for a non turbo LWB on the hall of fame. Looking forward to seeing pete's when it's finished and what times it gets :D

well ive had both i like the na for a nice drive but i like more to drive like a wolly and get the back end out in the dry ,controled. the na i had sounded like concord taking of but cant get that sound in a tt. but my na was an auto so cant really say.i rather the tt for the fun factor cas if i wanted a cruser ill buy a lexus or a jag