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[quote name=deve8uk If you see hazards you are suposed to slow down, failing to do so leads to? If you had limited visability and you where doing 70+ then your lucky youo got away with a wrote off car. QUOTE] Bud My car is ok cos I slowed down when I saw the hazards. Its the saab driver who wrote his car off. The vis wasnt that bad, I think the prob in situations like that is the disbeleif factor. You can see whats going on but your mind says...that car shouldnt be there. And in that moment some valuable time is lost. I dont know about all you perfect drivers out there but it defo took me by suprise and I dealt with it without losing it.

It must be nice being Judge, Jury & Executioner in your armchairs. Of course I forgot if I was doing 140 in my zed i'd be a star :xxx: I read the forums too and see all the comments etc etc when most of you guys speed you think its bloody great cos you've got an old sports car :rolleyes: FFS its just a post about a woman who was in an accident with a saab, I avoided it....big deal. Im sure its nowhere near as interesting as to what type of coilover should I fit to my zed cos I lost it on a roundabout and the cars fooked!!!!! Its just a post about being made aware that sometimes the unexpected happens.

Bud, I didnt admit I was speeding. Its is a 70 limit on the A19. I did adjust my speed and start to steer clear but I cant help it if I ran over debris. And I do agree with nick overall. If you look at the thread I didnt actually crash!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I ran over what was thrown over the road. Also nick its highly unlikely her car just plain stopped dead. I presume even if it cut out, clutch engaged and she even applied the brakes she could have easily made in onto the verge...is fairly large area. As I said, theres no excuses for the saab driver he was in front and had a better view than me, but I still realised something wasnt right so I slowed up and pulled to the right. I wonder how many of you driving along and being in the same position would do as I did. I saw the hazards and watched them, its only as I got closer that I realised the vehicle was out in the road....very unexpected!! Then also immediately the saab hit it. The direction I was travelling I cleared the mess easily because I had altered my driving position earlier...lucky I did. Why the saab driver didnt see I dont know. All I know is that I avoided any collision but unluckily or whatever it is...I ran over something that punctured my tyres. I didnt panick I just slowed the car and stopped. I agree prepare for the unexpected, which I did, the saab driver didnt and neither did the older woman. If you werent on the A19 last night please dont bleat on about weather conditions you didnt see!!! As far as Im concerned the fiesta was in a stupid position in the road and was therefore the contributing element to the accident. I can understand the point that the saab driver. You just dont expect a car to be out in the road like that but that still doesnt excuse him for not paying due care and attention as well. Even I saw the hazards and I was behind the saab!!

The roads are fast becoming dangerous places - wether it's through stupidity, negligence, volume of traffic or absolutely nobodies fault whatsoever etc etc....accidents are going to happen out there. The best we can do is err on the side of caution.....I know Im gonna be especially cautious of dips /rises on the roads....you just dont know whats around the corner... You just DONT know, no matter how good a driver/car you are/have. I certainly dont want to be involved in anything like that again. Be safe peeps.

Scrawni, I dont think the speed was excessive. The spot where the woman ended up was probably not one of the safest places around that area to grind to a halt, she had her reasons Im sure. She was just the other side of a small brow in the road and it was a slight right hooker. I dont think anyone in there right mind would have thought that there would have been a car sat right in the road. Even to cops said it was an awful place to stop. Yes as a retrospective armchair driver I should have been doing 30 in a 70...just in case something happens :rolleyes: But I dont know anyone who drives like that. We all drive with due care an attention but sometimes when someone pulls out in front of you or a kid runs out from behind a car etc etc you just have to react the best you can. I understand the concern for the woman BUT like I said ...if it was a chave we'd be saying something else. In my mind it doesnt make any difference. To have a driving license means that you are capable of controlling the vehicle in which you have the license, this means that you can operate it safely etc etc....to me this also means that your SENSIBLE enough to NOT make your vehicle an accident waiting to happen......which is exactly what she did. Like I said the cops were dumfounded as to why she stopped where she did when there was so much room to get off the road. Im also aware that obviously if she did have a problem then she may have been scared etc, i mean shes an old lady in the middle of nowhere (almost) and no one quite knows why she stopped, for all we know she could have taken the A19 turn by mistake and realising this stopped....it has been known. Im not trying to discredit her, im just pointing out that this accident could poss have been avoided....on her part. I was there and I had a few seconds to react to all the mayhem in front of me. I personally think the saab driver had nowhere to go without doing a serious right swerve....right across the carraigeway....not a good idea. The way I see it is exactly what I said to the saab driver..... Im glad it was him that hit her because there is no doubt in my mind sooner or later it would have been a truck and she could have been killed. Considering that the trucks tend to stay together on the motorways etc and the cars try and get around them - there would have been no room for anyone. I suppose I was slightly prepared for a problem because i started to move slightly to my right when I saw the hazard lights, but I still only had about 2 seconds before I realised her car was right in the road and then the saab hit her and I had managed to hit the debris and not either car. Maybe I would have missed her I dont know, all I know is i moved right and then instantly bang...they collide...then bang my tyres are gone...but I think i was clear and to the right of the original path of the vehicles. ....and yes in the mayham I cant remember much in detail about the impact i was focused on not loosing control myself. I couldnt even offer a decent statement straight afterwards. I never realised how the brain manages to lock out the surroundings and focus on the immidiacy of the job at hand. I got out of this with minimal damage but I do hope both other parties make a speedy recovery.

Ive seen some appaling driving in my time. Ive done aound 300,000 miles since i passed my test and i never had a prang. But ive seen a hell of a lot of dithering ol twazzers trying to work out how there horseless carraiges go forwards :headvswal Some mindless ol gadgies drive completely oblivious to other drivers. They think that cos they're slow n dithering all over the place that they're safe...... :headvswal b*ll*x. I think some of them may even think that the slower you go the safer you are. So they probably deduce that if you actually grind to a halt you become immortal :)

Bud, we came around the bend and she was there....bang. There was no escape and the speed was not excessive. If you were in my car last night you would have seen the lights then 1..2.. bang thats all the time we had. If her car was slowing down she could have just driven off the tarmac, thats what its there for. She just didnt think. Im sure if it was a young chav we'd all be singing a diff song :rolleyes: But as it happens it wasnt.....because shes was an older lady it doesnt change my point of view. It would have been so easy to have got the car off the road if it was moving....even a little bit. In an ideal world with str8 roads and clear skies and 10kw headlights we would have missed her. But we had about 2 secs, I think I would have missed her but the saab driver said that the minute he knew she was in his lane he decided to move right a bit...not yank the wheel and swerve into the central reservation and possibly oncoming traffic. In doing so his front quarter hit her, lucky he did move because he effectively clipped her qtr to qtr. If he hadnt moved a bit he would have whacked it rite up the @rse and god knows what the effects of that would have been. Unfortunately I drive with a sense of possible wariness on the road (being a biker and all) so I half expect problems but I dont drive as if theres a person behind every car waiting to jump out. There are some situations in which you find your self at the mercy of the circumstances - last night was one of those. Had she been off the raod by even a bit we would have missed - but the silly cow was stopped right in the lane, not even to one side. Surley some degree of common sense dictates that when your on a major road and your car has to stop - you at least try to pull over, even if you cant get off the road!!!

Im perfectly OK. I was shaken at the speed of the blowout...not nice at 70 :rolleyes: But I heard the tyre go bang then it went slippery at the front, I just took my foot off the gas and kept away from the brake until the speed was lowish. My main concern was getting to the left side of the road cos trucks were hurtling past a few mins later - didnt want one of those up my pipe :shock:

If she has started to slow down there was plenty of room to get the car off the road. But she broke the cardinal rule when you break down like that....she stayed in the car!!! I dont really care if it was an old bint or a young lad.....she could have killed someone because she REFUSED to think :headvswal

Was on my way home last nite at 9ish, just dropped my kids off in derbyshire. Off the A1 onto the A19, loads of spray/rain etc. Me, in my volvo, and another driver in new Saab estate. We were doing 70ish, hes in front, just as we come around a shallow bend i barely notice hazards flashing in the distance - as we get real close we realise someone has stopped in one of the 2 lanes on the A19 :headvswal :headvswal Unfortunately the Saab hit it at 70 ishmph and blew his car and parts all over the carraigeway - I swerved and smashed into the parts and it blew my front tyres out at 70mph, I finally managed to get the car to a halt 300 metres away from impact. The Saabs passenger wing, bonnet, wheel etc was embedded in to the passenger side of the car - a total right off. We went up to look at the other car. It was a fiesta. It was hit so hard it knocked it clean of the A19 and right up the inclines at the side. Inside it was an old lady :cry: It took 2 hrs to cut her out of the wreckage, the car was mashed. Apparently she just pulled over and stopped - no one knows why, but she was in a bad way when the ambulance carted her off. All the while bloody great trucks are thundering past with debris on the road that caused my blow out, when the cops arrived the traffic slowed down :xxx: She was fooking lucky a truck didnt hit her - she would not have made it. The worst thing about the whole accident was that where she stopped was a hump back bend......where I stopped (300 metres away) was a slip road :mad: Luckily the saab driver was ok, his car was totalled - he managed to get his off the road and parked near mine. I was totally caught off guard with the accident. I saw the hazards, so I kept looking at them.....all of a sudden when you are soooo close you realise they're not off the carraigeway......bang :( too late. I think I was very lucky last nite :( It may sound cruel but the old lady got the rewards for her stupidity. She could have easily got her car of the road, theres a verge right along the road large enought o drive on. I truly have no sympathy...she could have killed someone. If a truck would have clouted her, along with the volume of traffic - it would have been a real tradegy and ALL her fault :mad: That aside...I do hope she recovers.....and gets banned for being so careless. I finally get home at 11.30 after changing my tyres in the p*ss*ng rain for 2 1/2 hrs :headvswal

Allo bud, My 2 pence worth. Dont waste your money on ally pipes as you will need to keep on looking after them. Ive got a full stainless system - I know its never gonna burst or be easily damaged. Also if I ever sell it (which I wont) I'll get a reasonable price for it too :) You get what you pay for bud, if its a main engine or cooling component then I would spend on a better product. If its bling then I tend to look at the materials and go from there, ie underdrive pulley's - ive got an ebay one for less than £20, others have pulleys for £200 - they're made from exactly the same material and to the same specs - so I opted for the cheaper option. I spose it helps when your ex BA test engineer :)

well......its almost as fast as my zed :tongue:

Could resist it bud :)

I wonder what the last thing to go thru the seagulss minds was??? His @rse probably :wack:

Only just by the looks of it :tongue:

Has vinz been working out again :)

Its weighs far too much :eek: I moved mine on my own once and its fookin tricky, def a 2 man job unless you have a trolley :D

Considering the performance of these cars, which ever way you go is cheap :D just imagine what it would cost to buy a car with similar performance today and then fix a prob like a gearbox :x:

I hope its as simple as a filter clean for you bud.

To be honest bud its difficult to diagnose a problem over the net :D For my autobox the failure happened very quickly. Regardless of what the problem is....I didnt want to be sitting on a dodgey box, my car was a sod to get picked up cos its so low. Above all I want the car to be as good as can be, I dont want to be thinking, when Im on one of my longish trips...is today the day....bang :( We all have a different view of our cars and different levels of expectation and trust in them. Some of us have trouble free motoring, other have hell on wheels :x: ........most of us are in the middle somewhere :confused: I personally would check and clean/change the filter 1st as billy said....beyond that you have to decide for yourself what you want from the car and then decide what to do. Marc

I want one of those now :D

Checking the filter is still short term tho bud, if the filters blocked (with bits of gearbox) its more than likely that the box is still on its way out tho....its only a matter of time.

Thats fooking ace :D I want one for home :hyper:

Hi M8 Is it an auto? If it is mine started to sound like that. It whines a bit and then the drive disappears. It just revs n whines :( It just so happens that Ive got an auto box up for grabs (if yours is an auto). I got it to replace my broke autobox but then decided to go down the manual route.

mmmmmmm I could think of a few bits I wouldnt mind sending there :D