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So I take that to mean that, had anyone been injured on track as a passenger as a result of a crash, the driver would be wholly liable...? If that's the case, I'm surprised that they didn't stipulate that track drivers have adequate insurance cover! Thanks for posting that, Pete - it never occurred to me that the disclaimer might be in my exhibitor's pack :thumbup1:

So I take that to mean that, had anyone been injured on track as a passenger as a result of a crash, the driver would be wholly liable...? If that's the case, I'm surprised that they didn't stipulate that track drivers have adequate insurance cover! Thanks for posting that, Pete - it never occurred to me that the disclaimer might be in my exhibitor's pack :thumbup1:

Right, I'm bowing out of this thread now....!!

Did you not have track day cover, Chris...?

A quick Google search shows that, at least with Sky Insurance, specific track day cover does cover accidental damage to your own car. Another reason why I declined to take mine on track: I would've had no insurance cover and, like Chris, I can't afford to fix it if I'd stacked it to that degree!

I can only assume there was no track day insurance in place. Does trackday insurance even cover repairs to your own car, or is it simply for third party liability? Had the crash been far worse, would it have been covered by either Nissan's or Donington's public liability insurance though...? Important question, in my eyes!

I've been giving this a lot of thought over the last few days and my personal opinion is that Nissan dodged a bullet on Saturday. It's great that they wanted to do something for their employees, so giving them the chance to look at dozens of tasty Nissan models and to experience drifting and track time is a cracking idea. :) However... To have a passenger ride in the drift cars, you had to wear a helmet. The cars were driven by, presumably, experienced drifters who had a very good idea of what they were doing. The track, though... that seemed to be open to pretty much any car in attendance and no helmet was required!! So for the drifting, passengers were helmeted and in a proper drift car with a proper driver at the wheel... and pretty much the worst thing you could hit was a traffic cone. The track passengers were helmet-free and in ordinary cars with some pretty ordinary drivers, with plenty of barriers, trees and other cars to collide with! Now Chris stacked his car, which is sad news for him. Thankfully, both he and his passenger were unhurt, which is far and away the most important thing! The collision could've been a lot worse for both of them and I think it's only good fortune that it wasn't! Chris' car is primarily made of fibreglass with (to my knowledge) no additional impact protection (rollcage, harnesses, etc) and he was allowed to take a helmet-free passenger out. I genuinely can't fathom what Nissan were thinking! The potential for serious injury or fatality was huge as there didn't seem to be any criteria for the "track cars" to adhere to, other than they had to be made by Nissan. A couple of people asked me if I was taking mine on track. I didn't, for a few reasons: 1. I have no track experience whatsoever. 2. My car is not set up for track work. 3. I didn't want to increase my risk of smashing it up (over everyday driving) by tracking it. 4. Trackdays are not how I want to use my car. I think there should've been far tighter controls on who and what vehicle went out on that track. I have no objections whatsoever to people wanting to thrash their cars round a track, but I do have very grave reservations to passengers being allowed in virtually any car without any safety equipment. My opinion here may well make me a very unpopular person - if that transpires to be the case, so be it. Overall, it was a really good event but, for me, CeeJay's crash just highlighted a serious flaw in Nissan's planning of the event.

Sounds good, fella. Drop me a text to let me know when and where :biggrin:

A noble gesture, Ian, for a situation I have very strong feelings about.

I'll be there on the Sunday in the Zed, Ian. :thumbup1:

Today found me and Fran in a field at Donington with some, frankly, very tasty Zeds off this very forum! I was somewhat surprised when I was invited to display my little Shortie alongside the cars belonging to Joely P, FunkySi, Andrew G and Ian Greenfield! It was all part of some "open day" that Nissan put on for their employees. I confess to not knowing very much about it! But there were examples of pretty much every either sporty or outright quirky Nissan from the 70s forwards. Including more Qubes than I thought they'd actually produced! Quite a proud moment for me to be asked to attend this, especially considering the cars I was sharing a stand with. But I can at least say I was the only TT targa Shortie in attendance! There were track laps and passenger rides (which Slick Pete participated in, and CeeJay sadly smashed the rear end of his Zed on! :( ) and passenger rides in the drift cars too. Fran and I took a ride in a lunatic Skyline and a G35 respectively and it was a genuinely adrenaline-fuelled experience! Fran loved it though, which has me worrying about her designs on my Zed now.... :lol: The weather was pretty super for the whole day and my face is burned to a crisp! I didn't take many pictures, but here's the ones I did take: Happy to be home and see the dogs again, but it was great to put some faces to names (Andrew, Joel & Karen) and to catch up with Si and Ian again. Thank you for inviting me!! :biggrin:

We're in the Travelodge, Ian. :)

See you in the morning, Mr P. :thumbs:

Not really an update as such, but just something nice that happened this afternoon :) Sat at a junction and some guy in a new-looking Porsche 911 pulls up alongside and says "That's the most beautiful car I've seen in ages!" Made me smile quite broadly, unsurprisingly! :biggrin: :thumbup1:

Phutumsch, our newest Trader, makes and sells them :thumbup1:

If it saved him some money, I reckon he would...!! :lol: :lol: :surrender:

The finish on the bottom half of the bumpers is actually moulded into the bumper skin, so the only options are to either fill it (not recommended) or sand the whole thing flat. Just be advised that the highest points on the finish are as thick as the rest of the bumper, which means that the lowest points in all the little indentations will be thinner. When you sand it all flat, you're effectively making the entire lower half of the bumper thinner and therefore less sturdy. :thumbup1:

I had mine changed to the S2 unit for no other reason than to "future-proof" things, and it was hard-wired in as well so there's no unsightly adaptor harness :thumbup1:

Drop Lee Dent a message - he had a passenger door (I think) in 673 silver for a LWB a couple of months ago. Worth dropping him a line!

673 is a bright silver - it's the colour my Zed's painted in.

No problems with mine :)

They're looking superb, Richie! :thumbup1:

The clips on the Volvo ones are on the sides, where the Zed ones clip at front and back. So you have to put them in "sideways" (so the nozzles face the side of the car, rather than the front) and them twist them into position. No bonnet mods necessary at all :)

That would be me! :) They came from a V70. In fact, here's a link to the exact ones you'd need: Linky! :thumbup1:

I had to do three steering wheels that week, as well as a load of other bits and bobs too... my hands were like claws at the end of it all...! :surrender: