Notice of intended prosecution came through this morning, 102mph in a 70, M62 Saturday 23rd March the fucking notice got here almost as quick as me!

 

The notice says detected by Lastec, does anyone know what Lastec is?

 

The allegation is supported by photographic evidence, i have to provide details of who was driving the car, if you know what i mean.

 

Any advice / web sites with information would be gratefully received, anyone any idea of what i may expect by way of fine and points?

 

Oh! Hello dear here`s some nice flowers i got for you LOL!

 

Regards

 

 

Ian.

 

[This message has been edited by Ian D (edited 26-03-2002).]

check into previous post's cos someone posted somthing about you dont have to decare who was driving ??(it break's you right to be silent or summit)it is deffo in the forum somwhere so search well and you will find

from what i can remember : dont reply to it contact a slicitor asap once you have found posting

 

hope this helps you

 

 

philly

 

 

good look

 

 

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Ian just tell them GPS had your car and were doing a service on it .

 

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It's the European Human Rights thing about not incriminating yourself. I think there was some sort of test case. I'm sure that Ajay posted something about it.

Try here...www.speed-trap.co.uk.

 

Unless you are a top footballer/manager and can afford a top dollar brief then you can expect a fine and/or short ban for exceeding 100mph!

The cost of a solicitor can match or outweigh any possible fine though.

Good luck!

 

http://www.300zx.co.uk/forums/ubbforum/Forum1/HTML/004929.html

 

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DON'T REPLY MATE! IMHO

 

 

 

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Poss 12 month ban for 100mph+????

 

Just read up on www.speed-trap.co.uk about Radar/Laser Detectors.... think I might need one.

 

They recommend Bel Euro 550 and the Bel 966... anyone any experience of these? Any other detectors recommended????

this gizmo looks interesting - anyone used one?

http://www.morpheous.co.uk

Laser detectors are probably a complete waste of time unless you just want to woory for the period between hearing the dreaded beep and the letter arriving. The only take a fraction of a second to lick on which is far faster that I can hit the brakes.

 

The morpeheous unit is great for fixed speed traps but does not warn you about the arse hole hiding behind a fence with portable speed gun (or on a motorway bridge with a laser gun). I have a Valentine One detector which gives plenty of warning (only about £270 in the USA but they won't ship directly outside of the USA despite it now having coverage of all the European frequencies)

 

What you need is a radar difduser that will disperse the laser. Apparently they work pretty well but may be illegal unlike th detectrs

Hi Peeps,

 

It was me who posted the information about not having to admit who was driving.

 

I got the informations from the the spped trap site or ARDS site. Cant remember which, I am looking on my PC because I saved the files.

 

Basically you are being asked to self incrimmintate. this against your human rights and its down to the Police to prove who was driving the car. Now the bit the Police get you on, is failing to provide evidence when its in your power to do so.

 

This is what I did and how I got off:-

 

I asked for Photographic evidence, which as we all know shows the back of the car, and almost impossible to see who was driving.

 

From this I then responded to the fix penalty notice, that from the evidence supplied I could not tell who was driving.

 

Now mine was a little different,as it was a pool car and no log book. So I got away with it, as there was no proof I was the driver as it could be anyone of about 20 people.

 

Now you could, provide evidence you was somewhere else that day, and that your car was not on the road in that area. Who knows someone maybe driving around with false plates???

 

You have to play them at there game, but be prepared if you go to court and lose the fine will be about £150 to £200.

 

Leigh.

You're out of luck if it's only you insured to drive the car, though.

 

Under European Human Rights Law, you do not have to state who was driving as this is self-incrimination. Nice gaping loop-hole there...

 

If you contest it and state that you can't remember who was driving then most JPs and police will throw out the case as they know it won't get anywhere.

 

If the photo comes through showing the front of your car and it is obvious who is driving, then play the "invasion of privacy" card. Also a European Human Right Loophole....uh - Law. It is currently not legal to take a flash photo of the front of your car. IR photos are OK, though.

Ajay,

 

Not quite true on the insurance front. Anyone with full Comp is insured third party to drive another car unless stated.

 

Leigh.

 

 

Ah! But not always. Depends on the car / insurance policy in question. Some insurance policies, even fully comp, do not allow that. My brother's, for example, is fully comp on his Celica but he is not insured to drive any other vehicle, even with the owner's permission.

 

[This message has been edited by Ajay (edited 27-03-2002).]

Which, re-reading what you wrote, is exactly what you said....

 

D'oh!

 

Anita.

Leigh is right, hence why the Rozzers require YOU or whoever was driving to admit it! Either you declare that yes you were driving the car or this is the name and address of who was on the NIP!

 

Coz the Police have to prove that you were driving, without the NIP they don't have that proof therefore negat conviction!

 

Prodigy springs to mind here "FUCK 'EM AN' THEIR LAW!"

 

Don't do anything, don't respond to the NIP or ask them for anything!

 

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[This message has been edited by Timmy_Turbo (edited 27-03-2002).]

Just one idea, say that you cannot remember who was driving the car at that time. My dad did this once when i had a car registered to him and i blew a red light and cut someone up cos i had 10 points he said he didnt know if it was him, me or my brother. They did him for 'Failing to supply information to the driver of a vehicle' code MS 80 or 90 3 points £40 fine beats a ban though!

I got a 30 day ban and £200 fine for doing 70 in a 40 limit section of dual carriage way.

I was following a Rally car between stages!

Colin McRae and Yuha Kankunnen (?) gave me a grin and a wave as they drove past spinning the wheels for the pigs! LOL

 

I could have got away without the ban but I had 10 points on my license and would have gone over 12 points and got banned for a year or something anyway.

By taking a 30 day ban I avoided a longer one.

If you get a ban you do not get any points on your license for the offence which may be relevant to you.

If you are banned for more than 56 days (I think) your license is wiped clean of all points.

My solicitor wanted about £800 squids to come with me for the day and sit on his arse waiting for the case in court. Sod that.

Spoke to someone else and they said arrive early and ask to see the duty solicitor.

Everyone has the right to see one and it is FOC to us taxpayers. The guy represented me in court and was superb - made up loads of bullshit and pleaded mitigating circumstances to allow me to basically choose my sentence.

You are only allowed to plead mitigating circumstances once though. If you have done it before, no chance.

Get there a couple of hours early to give them time to sort things out. Costs nothing and did the same job as the £800 quid tosser.

 

You can say you don't know who drove the car but usually the police will just do the registered owner,

 

The best way of avoiding tickets is becoming a copper, I know a few and the bastards get away with murder,

 

Generally try and fuck them around, if you get done by a and held device or pulled over ask for a calibration certificate for that day for the lazer they pulled you over with. If you piss them off though they will go over your car like it was a naked 18year old blonde,

 

Lastec on the motorway are the things you see coppers on overpasses using, they take the photo by you drivng towards them, odds are they are IR photos but check it out because like mentioned above flash photograhphy will be thrown out,

 

 

Yeah the fuckers! Hey that flash photo rule...can you not stop them from using Gatsos in dual carriageway roadworks where they have you down to a single lane???

 

I was driving on the A55 home a few weeks ago and a car going the other way got flashed twice by a Gatso on the other side...nearly blinded me FFS!

 

Ian even if they do have a photo of you DON'T sign that NIP and send it back! FFS, it's self incrimination. At least take the fuckers around the block a few times if there is no way out! LOL

 

Personally if it was me I would wipe my arse on it then send it in a jiffy bag to Andy Duff! ROFLMFAO

 

Signed "Skidders Anonymous" LMFAO

 

 

 

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You must respond but put as I said, from the evidence its not possible to tell who is driving.

 

What went in my favour was I had at least tried to provide the evidence, and had given an explanation in writing how it couldnt of been me. So if you have someone who will say you was elsewhere, then they cant do you.

 

As I said someone could be running around with a false plate, maybe they saw your car at a meet, or a show???

 

Leigh.

 

 

Originally posted by Posidrive:

Laser detectors are probably a complete waste of time unless you just want to woory for the period between hearing the dreaded beep and the letter arriving. The only take a fraction of a second to lick on which is far faster that I can hit the brakes.

 

This isn't completely true. Yes, if pointed in exactly the right direction they can give an immediate reading but the operator holds the operating button for longer. I know from a personal test on a private track that if you have quick reactions then a laser detector can help you. I was hit with laser at over 120 mph and slammed on the anchors (330 mm AP racing anchors) and wasn't stopped.

 

I have used a Bel detector and was really pleased with it. It's not the perfect answer but there isn't one. It's bloody useful though.

 

Dave

being a sceptic - and the fact no one ever replies - do detectors work

 

9 points in 9 months hurts in a company (shame) M****o

 

Its ok I dont expect a response from supercar owners,just p*****d off with speed cameras

Thanks for the info guys, leaves me with a few things to think about?

 

Excuse the ignorance, but what are IR photos?

 

is it infrared? and can you tell who the driver was from these photos?

 

Regardz

 

Ian.

Ian, not sure if this still works.

Send a cheque off for the fine but make it a penny over the due amount. When they send you a refund for a penny dont cash it. It toally fucks their system up. This is true but i dont want you to get in trouble mate!

 

LUKE DUKESTER

 

ps. if it works you will get away with it

Luke,

 

That's an Urban Myth, mate. Doesn't work in the slightest.

 

Anita.

Here you go :

http://www.snopes.com/autos/law/ticket.htm

 

Claim: Slightly overpaying the fine for a traffic ticket will keep points off of your driving record.

 

Status: False.

 

Origins: The following bit of handy advice began circulating on the Internet in August 1998: