I was looking for a while before I decided to get my current car back on the road (its going to Jimmer's on the 29th next month) and I've wondered a lot about this car. I haven't posted a link as I don't want to promote the sale inadvertently(but I'm sure everyone knows the car).....just wondered what anyone thinks it'll go for ?

 

It looks very clean but am I right in thinking if it achieves its guide price that'll be a new high mark ?

Got to £9,800 didn't sell.

Need a link or info on it plus its hard to tell what bids are on it as the auctioneer can put in ghost bids to push the price up to the reserve.

https://mathewsons.co.uk/vehicle-auction-catalogue/4711-october-auction-1992-nissan-300zx-twin-turbo

 

This one.....it was on eBay for ages at £18k iirc.

Surprised it didn't sell for £9,800 Mark but maybe it was a ghost bid. Its worth 10k plus imo.

Such a shame that it doesn't have the original spoiler on it. 2+2s look terrible without them. You want it all in tact for the price IMO as nice as it is.

Such a shame that it doesn't have the original spoiler on it. 2+2s look terrible without them. You want it all in tact for the price IMO as nice as it is.

Surprised you haven't mentioned the rear lights...

 

It should have been sold at £9.8k, I think that's a very generous price. It's not an outstanding oem example, and the modifications don't add very much.

The auction house advised that nothing less than £11,500 will buy it.

The auction house advised that nothing less than £11,500 will buy it.

 

The ad states "The vehicles current MOT test has expired" - it did in June 2007.

 

Will be interesting to see what happens on the 9th December as to it making its reserve.

Here is the link to the old ebay add when it was over here and the seller said it would be moted at point of sale.

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NISSAN-300ZX-TWIN-TURBO-AUTO-GENUINE-UK-JUST-34-000-MILES-1-OWNER-STUNNER-/272546450385?hash=item3f7508cbd1:g:Mj4AAOSwjDZYluvN

I have nothing but contempt for these kind of sales, it is not original and not worth anything like they are asking, I offered my opinion when this was originally on sale for the price of a small island and was blasted basically, I did and still stand by the fact the Nissan 300zx is NOT a classic car in the true sense of the word, for one they made way too many of them world wide for that and 2 there is thousands of them still in existence around the world.

 

The original add falling on its face as did the last auction at half the original price just proves my point, yes there has been a resurgence in classic cars prices in recent years, one`s such as 1970`s escort mexico`s and the like, but what happened everyone and his dog has jumped on the band wagon, oh a Ford Escort Mexico is going for £30k + then that must mean my Austin Allegro is worth £10k ! .....erm ...NO! they were hateful things new and they simply do not merit any kind of classic status but still the triers are attempting to blag Grandpa`s old heap of junk off him to make a quick buck....well were, the game is up now...as I predicted here >>

 

https://www.300zx.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?187309-Current-state-of-the-market-in-Japan&highlight=zed+prices

 

 

Look not wanting to offend anyone, we all love / loved our zeds and want it to be worth a bundle but it lets get real and Just stop with the "300zx prices are going up " they are NOT, period ! when that one was on ebay there was a rush of 10k+ ones turned up very suddenly fuelled by the idiotic pricing of that advertisement, but they did NOT sell....unsurprisingly !

 

They like this one now languishing about, this one in an auction that failed, those £10k+ ones from a few months back are now coming back to the market for less than half that, presently on ebay there are 18 zeds listed with the exception of the few "new imports " at £7k ish the average price is £4,500, yep that is it folks not me saying, go check yourself, I said this earlier in the year that the car sales market would not support every 1990`s car hike, 300zx included, was I listened to...erm No! Well guys you have the evidence to view at a few clicks away, now stop getting all loved up on "my Zed is my pension" and just well use and enjoy them... please?

 

Jeff

 

caveat : There of course some splendid examples on this very forum ( you know who you are ) and they really are individually valued higher than the average zed of course, just want to make that clear.

 

Piston head Zed sales>> check them out.

 

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/nissan/300zx

 

Edited November 6, 20178 yr by JeffTT

Have to agree to disagree on this Jeff as in my opinion the prices have gone up to the point they are on the same price level as a 350z. Plus to buy a 300zx the same spec and condition of mine I would have to at least triple the price I paid 6 years ago.

Have to agree to disagree on this Jeff as in my opinion the prices have gone up to the point they are on the same price level as a 350z. Plus to buy a 300zx the same spec and condition of mine I would have to at least triple the price I paid 6 years ago.

 

Yes of course opinion is always subjective, and whilst I will concede prices did recovery well from £1,500 level a few years back, the repeated suggestion they will be near 20k cars any time soon just feeds the notion that they are equal to historic classic cars. As I said at the end, there are exceptions, extremely nice ones such as yours and others that will in time be hard if not impossible to replace if lost through theft or accident, but those very special ones cannot be used to set prices for the rest.

 

Surely the fact that these high asking price zeds are simply NOT selling must be on your radar to some degree? and any mention of the 350z in the same sentence of the 300zx is like comparing chalk and cheese, yeh Nissan will have you think they were the soul mate of the 300zx, but work on them and you find they are a Renault hatch with a sports body, the structure, quality and overall feel from a mechanical prospective they are just pants, I did have around 10 owners on our books and they were fighting rust issues underneath when they were under five years old...take a gearbox out and see how similar things are to the 300zx but all on a smaller and lower quality scale, nah no comparison, ok for what they are, 370 z is a better comparison to be honest.

 

 

Anyhow nothing wrong with a honest and informed discussion, come on guys what is your thoughts ?

 

Jeff

Edited November 6, 20178 yr by JeffTT

i am inclined to both agree and disagree :)

 

Where i disagree, i think the prices are on an upward trend after they hit rock bottom a few years ago.

 

Where i agree, the rise is very slow and certainly not as far and fast as people believe.

 

They are only a "modern classic" and not a true classic, yet. They are just not old enough and still far too many in circulation to command the price that people believe they should be at.

 

I don't think that the average of 10k+ prices for good quality cars will be for another 10 years, until the stock has thinned out a bit, and the good ones are still good for their age.

 

The slow rise in average prices will be that slow, in my opinion.

 

Other than exceptional show quality or provenance proven cars which will buck the trend.

Look not wanting to offend anyone, we all love / loved our zeds and want it to be worth a bundle but it lets get real and Just stop with the "300zx prices are going up " they are NOT, period ! when that one was on ebay there was a rush of 10k+ ones turned up very suddenly fuelled by the idiotic pricing of that advertisement, but they did NOT sell....unsurprisingly !

 

I don't agree with that I'm afraid.

 

Sure, there are many overpriced ones out there, but gone are the days when you could get a TT manual for £1500 with MOT. 6 or 7 years ago, you could, fact. I do agree with the rest of what you suggest though, there are plenty of dreamers out there, especially the lambo doored UK model for £15k! :lol: what an abomination!

 

At the end of the day, prices only go up when people ask for more money as the cars become rarer. This is why we see £100k Ford Sierras appearing! :lol: Sure, that's on a whole other level, but who ever thought they'd reach that sum. I certainly wouldn't pay that for one though.

 

The only way prices are going to rise is if people ask for more money for them. They probably won't get it, but it's the way the cars values slowly go up.

Edited November 6, 20178 yr by Funkysi

Trouble is if the liberal tree hugging fluffy slipper brigade get their way it will all be for nothing as we will have to drive Scalextric cars only !! argh !!

 

Jeff

The only way prices are going to rise is if people ask for more money for them.

 

Rather this - "The only way prices are going to rise is if people are prepared to pay more for them." - time will tell.

Trouble is if the liberal tree hugging fluffy slipper brigade get their way it will all be for nothing as we will have to drive Scalextric cars only !! argh !!

 

Jeff

 

So that makes a steam powered vehicle worthless?.........

Good quality z32 prices are heading in the right direction FACT. Im happy with that (although i have no plans to sell anytime soon) :thumbup1:

Love a calm discussion among friends, bolster`s the soul.

 

Jeff

Edited November 6, 20178 yr by JeffTT

What are peoples general thoughts on insured values and market values?

My insured value is 6k which is to low I would need 10k or above

My insured value is 6k which is to low I would need 10k or above

I think 10k is too low gary. Last year my agreed value with lancaster was 10k and mine is NA.

 

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i am inclined to both agree and disagree :)

 

Where i disagree, i think the prices are on an upward trend after they hit rock bottom a few years ago.

 

Where i agree, the rise is very slow and certainly not as far and fast as people believe.

 

They are only a "modern classic" and not a true classic, yet. They are just not old enough and still far too many in circulation to command the price that people believe they should be at.

 

I don't think that the average of 10k+ prices for good quality cars will be for another 10 years, until the stock has thinned out a bit, and the good ones are still good for their age.

 

The slow rise in average prices will be that slow, in my opinion.

 

Other than exceptional show quality or provenance proven cars which will buck the trend.

 

I don't agree with that I'm afraid.

 

Sure, there are many overpriced ones out there, but gone are the days when you could get a TT manual for £1500 with MOT. 6 or 7 years ago, you could, fact. I do agree with the rest of what you suggest though, there are plenty of dreamers out there, especially the lambo doored UK model for £15k! :lol: what an abomination!

 

At the end of the day, prices only go up when people ask for more money as the cars become rarer. This is why we see £100k Ford Sierras appearing! :lol: Sure, that's on a whole other level, but who ever thought they'd reach that sum. I certainly wouldn't pay that for one though.

 

The only way prices are going to rise is if people ask for more money for them. They probably won't get it, but it's the way the cars values slowly go up.

 

I am of this opinion also.....

 

......Being an avid reader of Modern Classics magazine (wherein which Joel's car featured a couple of months back....), there are many 1990s cars slowly increasing in price. Basically due to people of a certain age deciding to relive their teenage years, by purchasing the cars of their dreams from back in the day, but could never afford.... But now they have the disposable income - and demand (in some cases) is outstripping supply; since many of the 1990s performance cars have either rusted away or been wrapped around trees....

 

Nonetheless, the true upward movement in price will, as Craig says, be slow - but they will rise as good examples become few and far between. I am under no illusion that a Z32 will be anyone's pension - not in the next 10 years anyway - but rise they will. Only 10 years ago you could by a very good Porsche 928s4 for around £10k - now you'd be lucky to get a rough one for that; as tidy cars could be anything from £20k to £50k!! Yes, it's a v8 Porsche, not a Datsun; but with media coverage and the current trend for investing in modern classic high performance cars, which can be purchased for reasonable money today, it's certain that all cars of this genre will only go up in value.

What are peoples general thoughts on insured values and market values?

 

Simples - I'd start increasing one's agreed value based on the (albeit unsubstantiated) higher prices some cars are being offered for sale at. It won't add much to your premium; so best be safe than sorry, should the worst happen. Irrespective of whether the car is really worth it, you might end up having to pay more to replace your Zed, if it gets stolen or written off.

Trouble is if the liberal tree hugging fluffy slipper brigade get their way it will all be for nothing as we will have to drive Scalextric cars only !! argh !!

 

Jeff

 

Soooo true Jeff...:sad:

 

However I read an interesting comment from Dr Zetsche in this month's Mercedes Enthusiast (for those who don't know, Dr Z is the CEO of Daimler-Benz and head of Mercedes cars), regarding future car production. Despite governments' and other manufacturers' (eg Volvo) comments regarding the certain death of the internal combustion engine by year x, Dr Z says that Mercedes-Benz will continue to invest in and develop petrol and diesel engines.......!!

 

A suicide note...? Perhaps not; lest we forget that Mercedes-Benz is, and always has been, at the front of automotive technology and development. Thing is, I suspect we will still have the internal combustion engine in 20 years - but by then it will be commonplace to achieve triple figure fuel economy and single figure emissions. The oil business and the motor industry have always gone hand in hand - and probably still will for the best part of our lifetimes; as they have done in the past, they both will continue to evolve, to achieve ever-more stringent environmental targets.