Afternoon all,

 

Just been doing the usual rounds on eBay, Gumtree, etc. when I came across this zed.

 

Now, I’m cautiously putting up a thread about a car for sell. Although, given what I’ve been reading lately this may bite me in the arse… :whistling:

 

Anyway, it’s a genuine question, born out of my own curiosity.

 

The advert (below) makes reference to a “Nismo factory development” 300ZX. Now I’ve never heard of such a beast, nor have I ever heard of a “300ZX XL”

 

Can anyone offer up any information here?

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Nissan-300ZX-Nismo-Development-Car-Build-number-5-/192048075151?hash=item2cb6f5118f:g:IEsAAOSwcUBYSEsm

I'm gonna call "Bobbins" on this. Sounds to me like the importer or owner or whoever has been massively misled or lied to!

 

I stand to be corrected, but I can't see it happening. Any car like that should presumably come with documents relating to it's rare nature, or a plaque of some description. I'm guessing this gen has none of that...

 

Looks like an ordinary TT to me.

Edited December 8, 20169 yr by Mondo

While I’ve done a ‘reasonable’ amount of reading up on the Z32, I’m well aware that there’s still plenty about these cars I still don’t know.

 

Looking at the pictures I didn’t think it was what they had claimed, but it did get me wondering if such a car existed? Like the Z32 equivalent of a Nismo 400R…

Crock of shite. No such development vehicle exists. Why would Nissan give a 'Nismo' name to a car being tested for another manufacturer's components?

 

The only NISMO stuff available for the Z32 were things like bushes etc, but that's because they were also used on Skyline and S-chassis cars. There are a few other Nismo generic branded things like shifters etc, but nothing Z32 specific.

 

Looks like a nice car though, but would benefit with having those nasty headlight stickers removed and the cheap looking Halford decals stuck to the rear end removed. Strange goings on under the rear bumper.

 

Few other nasties, the turd-coloured retrim is questionable and what the hell is going on with the re-positioned indicators and the empty hole with a bit of wire across it? That's hilarious.

 

The Tein/Stock suspension info is nonsense also.....and not sure quite what's been done with the brakes, I guess he's talking about the disks although they don't look any larger than stock.

Crock of shite. No such development vehicle exists. Why would Nissan give a 'Nismo' name to a car being tested for another manufacturer's components?

 

The only NISMO stuff available for the Z32 were things like bushes etc, but that's because they were also used on Skyline and S-chassis cars. There are a few other Nismo generic branded things like shifters etc, but nothing Z32 specific.

 

Looks like a nice car though, but would benefit with having those nasty headlight stickers removed and the cheap looking Halford decals stuck to the rear end removed. Strange goings on under the rear bumper.

 

Few other nasties, the turd-coloured retrim is questionable and what the hell is going on with the re-positioned indicators and the empty hole with a bit of wire across it? That's hilarious.

 

The Tein/Stock suspension info is nonsense also.....and not sure quite what's been done with the brakes, I guess he's talking about the disks although they don't look any larger than stock.

 

I'm puzzled by the brakes. As far as i'm aware the R32 GTR has the same Sumitomo brakes as the Z32. Pretty sure Brembo brakes only came (from the factory) with the R33 GTR onwards.

Lol. Those are some real genuine badges not the back right there haha

As if Nismo would produce something that looks like that.

 

There's a 370Z for sale local to me, listed as a Nismo 370Z. It has a Nismo badge and nothing more. It's often hard to tell who is gullible in this cases, the seller or the interested buyers.

I'm puzzled by the brakes. As far as i'm aware the R32 GTR has the same Sumitomo brakes as the Z32. Pretty sure Brembo brakes only came (from the factory) with the R33 GTR onwards.

 

They do have the same Sumitomo brakes (I think there are some extremely subtle differences), however the late V-Spec model of the R32 GTR has the same Brembo calipers as fitted to the R33GTR and R34GTR.

As if Nismo would produce something that looks like that.

 

There's a 370Z for sale local to me, listed as a Nismo 370Z. It has a Nismo badge and nothing more. It's often hard to tell who is gullible in this cases, the seller or the interested buyers.

 

 

He's gone all out and said it's build no5 lol.

 

I think the green balance bars are nismo specific and keep the engine stable for when the nismo power kicks in.

 

What makes him think it's worth anywhere near 10 bag? It's a nice car bar the obvious though and the atleast he hasn't got a set of halfords specials fitted over those huge r32 gtr brakes...

Just for the record Nismo did get involved with production Z32s with the "Refresh Program" based at the Nismo Omori Factory.

Customers could have their engine and chassis overhauled by Nismo engineers. The cars would have a badge fixed to the front

of the throttle cover as in the picture below.

 

[ATTACH=CONFIG]103171[/ATTACH]

 

[ATTACH=CONFIG]103170[/ATTACH]

 

I don't call it a Nismo Z32 :lol: Badge came with the car!

Wouldn't take long to remove the gash and you'd have a what looks like an ok twin turbo. It's worth anoutvhalf what he wants but hey.

So I've asked a question:

 

Hi,

 

Could you upload some pictures of the documentation and certificate that prove this is a genuine Nismo car please?

 

Thanks.

 

Let's see what's what.

So I've asked a question:

 

Let's see what's what.

 

Here he goes again.......'you just couldn't let it lie' !!

 

Have you seen this thread, put up only today :tt2:.

 

http://www.300zx.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?186408-quot-Criticism-of-cars-quot-in-my-defence

Here he goes again.......'you just couldn't let it lie' !!

 

Have you seen this thread, put up only today :tt2:.

 

http://www.300zx.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?186408-quot-Criticism-of-cars-quot-in-my-defence

 

Am I criticising it? No.

 

Simply asking for verification of the seller's claims, that's all.

Another Nismo :no: TTXL NISMO Z32

 

 

Is it... UK spec bumpers? I'm confused. It's missing fogs on the rear, and it has the wrong fogs on the front for UK spec but its got the number plate shape and headlight washers.

That's the same car...?

That's the same car...?

 

I think he was just pointing out the badges on the listing :)

Just for the record Nismo did get involved with production Z32s with the "Refresh Program" based at the Nismo Omori Factory.

Customers could have their engine and chassis overhauled by Nismo engineers. The cars would have a badge fixed to the front

of the throttle cover as in the picture below.

 

[ATTACH=CONFIG]103174[/ATTACH]

 

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Wow, just out of interest I did a vin check on it...

It's a 1990 not even the '94 it's claimed to be,

 

It's been miss registered by the look, dvla seem to think it's 94, but it was built Sept '90 according to its vin.

 

Well I'd avoid this at all costs..

Edited December 9, 20169 yr by (adl) phoenix

And to confirm that, the seat belts are on the door, series 1 car.

Bronze tinge to the glass too!

 

MASSIVE impostor! An impostor of absolutely nothing at all, but still an impostor! :wack:

Edited December 9, 20169 yr by Funkysi

Well I guess someone has been a little shy with the real truth on this one, but lets face it its a daily occurrence in the second hand car market in general not just zeds.

 

One point I would make is the year of registration and actual year of manufacture discrepancy, in the day ( 10 years ago) I warned many, many times on here of this practice. I even named a few of the garages who were doing it, mainly in Birmingham I might add and ALL of them run by Asian families. In fact we used to register on our data base actual manufacture date against the registration date and inform our customer, and be aware we stopped doing it some years back and a good 30% to 40% of imports on 92, 93 and 94 plates are usually 1990 cars.

 

Bear in mind we stopped doing this and we did not see everyone of them so its a good chance there is more than that still about. It also messed with the market values at the time terribly and was a factor in the demise of the UK zed prices, when you had a supposed 94 model ( actually a 1990 ) on sale for more than half the price or a 94 UK car, of course they sold to people who did not recognise the trim and spec differences between years, but the price / values drop was significant at the time.

 

Badges and after market stickers used to be the in thing years ago and now are so simple to reproduce or buy off e-bay anyone can be misled, specialist look at any new purchase is a great idea in principle BUT often buyers do not want to spend a couple of hundred quid on an independent technical appraisal and so the problem still exists.

 

 

Jeff

Edited December 11, 20169 yr by JeffTT

And to confirm that, the seat belts are on the door, series 1 car.

 

I was going to mention this yesterday, but wasn't 100% sure whether I'd be correct in saying it.