hi does any one now if zed world chip can be read and if so how had my can dyno run today it did do well the tunner said the chip all over the place needs a new remap

I've got a larger FMIC on and the 99 spec went on fine. Also Greddy Gracer type front bumper fitted with some mods around the pipe work. Car looks good, may I suggest though that you put your fan shroud back on. The fan does very little in the way of drawing air through the radiator unshrouded. Mine fitted fine with an uprated thicker core rad too.

 

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It was only that Ash had to cut his 99spec bumper to get it over the FM, but I suppose it is half to do with how it is mounted and where the pipes go.

Yeah you're right. I mounted mine quite high and chopped a lot of the bumper bar away. So like you say you can either chop the bumper or re-position the cooler!

his too far from me car needs body work etc be for it can go on road also tried to contact him few week didn't get any way so gave up .

 

Hi. When was this?

 

I have been very busy with various things, but if you can't get the car down to me, then there isn't a lot I can do!

 

 

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Your car has major issues according to that dyno plot!

 

 

Zedworld supplied chips were based on the widely available map made famous by JWT, no mystery to that and that map will be fitted to many, many zeds be it in Zedworld guise or another, often referred to as a generic chip. The map is based on 15 year old information and it is possible of course a new slant on it with improved monitoring equipment can bring its own improvement but the main thing with any chip or mapping is keeping your engine tune in place.

 

Often we saw in the Zedworld workshop zeds fitted with our chip some years before had changed hands and came back to us years later for service and find timing needed adjusting or air leaks had occurred as well as other performance reduction issues, these been sorted during the service would amaze the owner with the performance upgrade but it was not the chip that been changed just realigning the tune did the trick.

 

Many of the zed fitted with Jap import chips such as Central 20, Veilside and many more are set for Jap spec high octane fuel and can potentially run lean on UK fuel so boost has to be adjusted accordingly, agree our chips run higher fuel at higher boost but for me that`s a good thing as it allows for differences in engines, but what I can say is every mapped zed I see on rollers or on the road gunning it hard are black smoking, so they are over fueling much higher, black smoke was not a typical product on my ecu upgrades.

 

Proven generic chips are not a bad thing Noel in fact made a small business as Turbonoz on E-bay for years selling exactly them and still does ( in different names), of course everyone has an opinion and maybe as Zedworld we did at least 300 chip upgrades I can say that the amount that were not happy I can count on one hand. But then of course the new players that have come on the scene in recent year`s need a benchmark to sell their products from then I am happy to be that benchmark, let`s see how long before for the haters pitch in now

Jeff

 

If a chip has been set for high octane fuel, it's not going to "run lean" on a lower octane fuel. Injector duration has nothing to do with timing advance. There isn't one aftermarket chip from the land of the rising sun that will ever be suitable for a UK car. I can't believe there are people still asking if a MINE's ECU is going to be ok. They weren't 15 years ago, they aren't today. Unless you're running race fuel, natch.

 

Indeed, only the other day I sent off a generic chip for a TT to the Netherlands. One that I created on my dyno for open-loop fuelling, God-awful BP98 fuel, FMIC, and typical intake/exhaust upgrades. I don't sell other people's chips. I also don't slate other people's chips. I don't need to. But if I ever do feel the need to, I can analyse them all with lots of pretty pictures and numbers (i.e. factual information) until the cows come home :laugh:

If a chip has been set for high octane fuel, it's not going to "run lean" on a lower octane fuel. Injector duration has nothing to do with timing advance. There isn't one aftermarket chip from the land of the rising sun that will ever be suitable for a UK car. I can't believe there are people still asking if a MINE's ECU is going to be ok. They weren't 15 years ago, they aren't today. Unless you're running race fuel, natch.

 

Hi noz, my car has a blitz access ECU which I have been told has a very aggressive timing. Is it the same synopsis as the mines?, and can it be remapped, it is used with a blitz sbc.

Hi noz, my car has a blitz access ECU which I have been told has a very aggressive timing. Is it the same synopsis as the mines?, and can it be remapped, it is used with a blitz sbc.

 

Ah. The old "aggressive timing" adage. There is no such thing. There is MBT timing, which produces the maximum torque available for a particular engine, setup, fuel etc. There is too much timing, which will cause detonation in a knock-limited turbocharged application, or a loss of torque on a naturally-aspirated engine. Then there is too little timing, which to an extent can be considered "safe" and to an extreme can melt valves.

 

I cannot comment on your own ECU, as I haven't seen the actual map contained within it with my own eyes, and I'm not one to make assumptions.

 

But I can tell you that I am looking at a genuine Blitz Access map on my laptop as I write this. Fuelling and timing maps are based on a 41P13 JDM Auto TT map. The fuelling map has 236 of 256 points exactly the same. The timing map is more advanced in points where a typical full throttle run would access. The timing map is suitable for race fuel only. It runs similar to an NA timing map. For use in a TT on available UK fuel, it is completely unsuitable.

 

P.S. NA Zeds knock like mad on regular UK unleaded fuel. The pistons don't melt because there's no forced induction, but it'll knock out a set of bearings eventually :)

Ah. The old "aggressive timing" adage. There is no such thing. There is MBT timing, which produces the maximum torque available for a particular engine, setup, fuel etc. There is too much timing, which will cause detonation in a knock-limited turbocharged application, or a loss of torque on a naturally-aspirated engine. Then there is too little timing, which to an extent can be considered "safe" and to an extreme can melt valves.

 

I cannot comment on your own ECU, as I haven't seen the actual map contained within it with my own eyes, and I'm not one to make assumptions.

 

But I can tell you that I am looking at a genuine Blitz Access map on my laptop as I write this. Fuelling and timing maps are based on a 41P13 JDM Auto TT map. The fuelling map has 236 of 256 points exactly the same. The timing map is more advanced in points where a typical full throttle run would access. The timing map is suitable for race fuel only. It runs similar to an NA timing map. For use in a TT on available UK fuel, it is completely unsuitable.

 

P.S. NA Zeds knock like mad on regular UK unleaded fuel. The pistons don't melt because there's no forced induction, but it'll knock out a set of bearings eventually :)

R.I.P then I suppose :p. Let me get my car sorted and I'll probably pay you a visit.

 

Thanks for the info

Ah. The old "aggressive timing" adage. There is no such thing. There is MBT timing, which produces the maximum torque available for a particular engine, setup, fuel etc. There is too much timing, which will cause detonation in a knock-limited turbocharged application, or a loss of torque on a naturally-aspirated engine. Then there is too little timing, which to an extent can be considered "safe" and to an extreme can melt valves.

 

I cannot comment on your own ECU, as I haven't seen the actual map contained within it with my own eyes, and I'm not one to make assumptions.

 

But I can tell you that I am looking at a genuine Blitz Access map on my laptop as I write this. Fuelling and timing maps are based on a 41P13 JDM Auto TT map. The fuelling map has 236 of 256 points exactly the same. The timing map is more advanced in points where a typical full throttle run would access. The timing map is suitable for race fuel only. It runs similar to an NA timing map. For use in a TT on available UK fuel, it is completely unsuitable.

 

P.S. NA Zeds knock like mad on regular UK unleaded fuel. The pistons don't melt because there's no forced induction, but it'll knock out a set of bearings eventually :)

 

Hey noz, all this talk about fuel.. Just wondering, I've got a jap spec tt running a standard set up as far as I am aware. I regularly use shells vpower + nitro fuel and wondered if this is the best fuel I can use?

 

I've done a few tanks of BP ultimate when that's all that's been available but prefer to use shells fuel..

 

What's the best in your opinion mate?

Hey noz, all this talk about fuel.. Just wondering, I've got a jap spec tt running a standard set up as far as I am aware. I regularly use shells vpower + nitro fuel and wondered if this is the best fuel I can use?

 

I've done a few tanks of BP ultimate when that's all that's been available but prefer to use shells fuel..

 

What's the best in your opinion mate?

 

I run all my cars on Tesco Momentum99. The reason being is that an associate of mine showed me evidence that Momentum99 now has higher knock resistant properties than the latest incarnation of Shell VPower Nitro. He was a staunch supporter of Shell VPower prior to this. If I have to, I use VPower.

 

That's more valuable than my opinion, that's actual fact :)

I run all my cars on Tesco Momentum99. The reason being is that an associate of mine showed me evidence that Momentum99 now has higher knock resistant properties than the latest incarnation of Shell VPower Nitro. He was a staunch supporter of Shell VPower prior to this. If I have to, I use VPower.

 

That's more valuable than my opinion, that's actual fact :)

 

Your associate isn't the only one that thinks that, Tesco 99 has been at the top of the independent testing for quite a few years now, usually followed by VPower and BPUltimate.

P.S. NA Zeds knock like mad on regular UK unleaded fuel. The pistons don't melt because there's no forced induction, but it'll knock out a set of bearings eventually :)

 

So what about running a standard NA on E95? Would it warrant a remap?

I run all my cars on Tesco Momentum99. The reason being is that an associate of mine showed me evidence that Momentum99 now has higher knock resistant properties than the latest incarnation of Shell VPower Nitro. He was a staunch supporter of Shell VPower prior to this. If I have to, I use VPower.

 

That's more valuable than my opinion, that's actual fact :)

 

Your associate isn't the only one that thinks that, Tesco 99 has been at the top of the independent testing for quite a few years now, usually followed by VPower and BPUltimate.

 

Where is that documented in a way that is relevant to our cars?

Edited February 13, 20169 yr by AndrewG
Clarified my question

hi guys just a quick update I have got the car live mapped but still not running fully right

Any more info on your set up?

hi guys just a quick update I have got the car live mapped but still not running fully right [ATTACH=CONFIG]94234[/ATTACH]

 

Huge improvement. What do you mean on "not running fully right"?

am not fully sure yet but its got boost leak or sum thing not running right sum where its reading too much air flow and cutting out going in to safe mode its running at 12psi I think that's what the garage said .

I run all my cars on Tesco Momentum99. The reason being is that an associate of mine showed me evidence that Momentum99 now has higher knock resistant properties than the latest incarnation of Shell VPower Nitro. He was a staunch supporter of Shell VPower prior to this. If I have to, I use VPower.

 

That's more valuable than my opinion, that's actual fact :)

 

Your associate isn't the only one that thinks that, Tesco 99 has been at the top of the independent testing for quite a few years now, usually followed by VPower and BPUltimate.

 

 

 

Where is that documented in a way that is relevant to our cars?

 

With regards to the section of my quote you highlighted in BOLD, it is documented in my head from the datalogs that I viewed. The knock resistance properties of different fuels available is relevant to all petrol cars, especially ones such as the Z32 running ECUs without adaptive knock feedback.

 

Hence why I run Momentum99 in all my modified cars (apart from my CRDI, that would just be foolish). If VPower (or any other fuel for that matter) becomes "better" than Momentum99, I will swap to that fuel, and then subsequently recommend that particular one.

 

I would be interested in seeing the idependent testing also.

Theres alot of talk about 'knock' - my zed has stopped boosting above 7psi for a little while no - could that be down to the fuel im using activating the knock aensor?

Have you got a code 34?

That would indicate the knock sensor..

not checked for any code leaving it like this for now going to start on the body work when its ready ill be taking to noel at turbonoz .

Theres alot of talk about 'knock' - my zed has stopped boosting above 7psi for a little while no - could that be down to the fuel im using activating the knock aensor?

 

Is it permanently in safety mode? If so, it will likely be the loom section for the knock sensor.

If it returns to full boost after power cycling the ECU (posh words for turning off & on again), then your knock sensor could be detecting knock, which in turn could be genuine or spurious.

 

What fuel have you been using? Use the highest octane fuel possible in these cars.

Edited February 20, 20169 yr by Noz

Not sure where you are in the country mate but if you want to plug it in and see if there's a problem then I've got the full conzult program here ready to go. I've also got the resistors here to cure the problem too if it is the knock sensor loom.

Offers there mate, if it's any good for you then give me a shout.

Spoke to the garage today he said after getting the car up to 12psi it's was hitting the boost limit and cutting of the fuel he has lifted the boost limit to maximum on the ecu he thinks cars reading to much air flow and the cars thinking it's making to much boost and cutting out any one else had any issues like that's and what did you do to sort it out any help would be helpfully .

They need to use the proper equipment & software really. None of what they've told you is something I have ever come across I'm afraid.

finally got the car off to the body shop for full repray and body kit

Looks really mean, just not sure about that offset of rear wheels.