There has been a few interested parties that want to be apart of the NEC so I just wanted to gauge how many of you would like to take part this year.

 

This may not be for everyone as being the classic car show we need the highest of quality as we can for the show and a few rules to go.

 

1.) You need to arrive more than likely pre 9AM the day before the show starts for setup.

2.) Your zed can't be removed from the stand until the late evening of the following Sunday.

3.) The hotels may be part subsidised by the club but this depending on interest and costs. (we will know after we gauge the interest).

4.) Meals need to be paid for by the individuals, ie. its not JAE so we cant have a BBQ, :(

I do reach for a Kleenex when I see your interior but its not for drying tears

 

Si's interior is wipe-clean too Dean! You won't need many Kleenex! :rofl:

I do reach for a Kleenex when I see your interior but its not for drying tears

 

And on that bombshell...! :lol:

wow. what a thread. lol.

personally, given the stand space, i would include a body modified version, a motor sport version, as well as oem and subtle versions, as long as the quality of them was considered best in class by the club. they highlight exactly what is possible with the cars, and also how cherished the cars are by their owners, regardless of how their taste has driven the result.

 

but as has already been said, some of these variations may actually be out of place for the type of event and not reflect the classicness of the show

 

i would also include the roughest version we could find, which clearly indicated all of the problem areas and could be used to highlight how good the restorations are in our club. with classic also comes restoration.

 

but underlying ALL of that, is the car show also propose a theme for each show, which we should try to include.

we have missed the theme references in previous years, as it was not obvious in the site pack.

 

so if there was a sport, or film, or other specific theme, then it would be easier to include specific modifications.

 

imho it should be a club member decision as much as possible, bearing in mind the quality of car preferred.

 

however, any member that wants to volunteer their car MUST understand the commitment and as a club we cannot afford to have people back out at the last minute, because it is unfair on other members who could have committed but were not selected.

Edited January 22, 201610 yr by craig

Worth mentioning that modification is a big part of classic car culture in Japan. Just look at Bosozoku.

Okay so I've just cought up with today's threads!

 

Let's get one thing straight here!

I'm not upset or have I reached for any kleenex!!

The car is to my taste and was built for me..If you like the car happy days if you don't..oh well,

If we all liked the same things it would be a dull world wouldn't it???

All I've expressed to Dasstech as well as on the forum is you guys need to decide what you want at this show as at the moment it's a mess.

 

I only took notice of this thread as the idea was nicely mentioned by another member on the committee that it may be nice for the COTY to be on the NEC stand. (This can be seen on the COTY thread)

 

At the time I thought it was a great idea as id like to get more involved with the club and also meet some of the people behind the user names.

After looking in to the NEC show online as well as reading other members comments I see what it was all about...OEM Classics!!

 

Thats why I commented that may be I shouldn't attend as my car is not OEM like 99.9% of the cars on this forum if it's OEM+ or not it's not OEM like the criteria of the other cars seem to be at the show.

 

I expressed this on another post!

 

I've got lots going on this year not car related so I really am not bothered about a car show at the NEC.

 

I would like to kindly withdraw from my vote please as my car is not OEM.

 

If any body has taken this the wrong way or is offended you know where the kleenex is!

 

Thanks Dan

Edited January 22, 201610 yr by GIBSTER-TT

Okay so I've just cought up with today's threads!

 

Let's get one thing straight here!

I'm not upset or have I reached for any kleenex!!

The car is to my taste and was built for me..If you like the car happy days if you don't..oh well,

If we all liked the same things it would be a dull world wouldn't it???

All I've expressed to Dasstech as well as on the forum is you guys need to decide what you want at this show as at the moment it's a mess.

 

I only took notice of this thread as the idea was nicely mentioned by another member on the committee that it may be nice for the COTY to be on the NEC stand. (This can be seen on the COTY thread)

 

At the time I thought it was a great idea as id like to get more involved with the club and also meet some of the people behind the user names.

After looking in to the NEC show online as well as reading other members comments I see what it was all about...OEM Classics!!

 

Thats why I commented that may be I shouldn't attend as my car is not OEM like 99.9% of the cars on this forum if it's OEM+ or not it's not OEM like the criteria of the other cars seem to be at the show.

 

I expressed this on another post!

 

I've got lots going on this year not car related so I really am not bothered about a car show at the NEC.

 

I would like to kindly withdraw from my vote please as my car is not OEM.

 

If any body has taken this the wrong way or is offended you know where the kleenex is!

 

Thanks Dan

 

Danny,

 

Unless I completely misread Dasstech's post, or on the off-chance that he's referring to someone else with a superbly sorted Zed, he explicitly stated that you were upset by either mine or FunkySi's post. If that isn't the case, then I'd question why he's stating that in the first place!

 

The only reason you or anyone else should build or modify a car is for your own personal tastes, which is what you've done and, as far as I'm aware, the end result has been met with practically universal praise (from myself as well, at JAE, to you and him in person).

 

You seem to have taken great offence at my "Kleenex" statement but I only said that because Dasstech stated that you were upset. Again, if this isn't the case, then there was precisely no point to him saying that it was the case.

 

As you yourself said, very few (if any) cars here are strictly OEM, so the criteria cannot be an OEM vehicle or there would be no Z32 stand. Perhaps we need to know exactly what the organisers are looking for in an entered vehicle, before this thread descends even further into chaos and either misinterpretation or outright misinformation...?

Just look at Bosozoku.

 

Not everything that comes out of Japan is cool however. Bosozoku is one of the worst things ever to come out of there since Emperor Hirohito. :lol: :rofl:

What a thread! Now I am not one for normally voicing my opinion on a car forum because it can lead to a number of people misinterpreting my 'said' opinion, however with this in mind and without wanting to purposely upset people or cause confrontation here is my thoughts on this whole thread.

 

Some of us on here are of similar disposition that completeley rely on Committee based decisions to get 'something done to a standard' and to act as the voice of many. If all our individual woes, worries and concerns were acted upon, nothing would get done other than a lot of 'trying to appease' opinions. Like many, I have been on, and belong to a number of different forums, but hand on heart none are as well organised and as helpful as this one, or are the committee members so dedicated to us.

The committee have said that they would like the best of the best to represent the club at one, and only one prestige car show on annual basis . Is it really that bad that a decision has been made to set a standard, albeit fine examples of as close to OEM as possible.....for this one show??

 

Personally I would pay a lot more per year for both the help and social aspects that this appointed committee provide to us all, and if I wanted to play a role in a decision making position, I would first volunteer for any committee position should they come available. We are even struggling for a NEO.

 

Excuse the 'google' description, however for me it says it all;

 

committee

noun

1. a group of people appointed for a specific function by a larger group and typically consisting of members of that group.

 

We all like to moan, its the British way but for heavens sake guys, £10 a year.............!!

 

 

 

Rant over and I wish the committee all the luck and please continue to make this club as good as it is, after all thats what I pay them for.

Well 17 yes's so far, im sure we will have plenty to choose from when it comes to numbers being decided and whittled down to the best options to be shown to represent the club.

 

Lets get a reality check here, nothing has been decided yet, all entries will be voted and considered, regardless of whether you personally think your car meets the required grade to show, also lets not forget, this is not a car meet, where like minded members get together and chat about each others cars, its to show the best the club has to offer and what can be achieved with what we consider one of the best Jap cars out there.

Help promote the marque and raise awareness of the Z32 to a wider audience.

 

So dont fret yourself on what you think might need doing to your car to get it up to show standard, rather ask yourself, would you be proud to show your car as a great example, in front of a crowd of tens of thousands :thumbup:

" Help promote the marque and raise awareness of the Z32 to a wider audience"

 

Precisely, my 15 & 20 year old sons and my missus all think my Zed is, well, to put it frankly, OK. When I showed them the photos of Dan's car, they were all drooling and asked me when was I going to get my car done like that !

I went down the pub. I told my mate this, he's my age, old. He said the complete opposite, how it's great to see OEM classic cars still kicking and breathing as original as can be.

So, on that basis, let's compromise, it's a classic show, a chance to let Joe Public know why we ALL love the Zed, let's predominantly feature the top end OEM classic cars, BUT....let's show Everyone Who Visits, what can be done today, to celebrate the classic car, with a beautiful example of the marque that's had tasteful AND expert mods lovingly applied to bring it back to life.

Compromise. We are a club, let's club together.

Danny,

 

Unless I completely misread Dasstech's post, or on the off-chance that he's referring to someone else with a superbly sorted Zed, he explicitly stated that you were upset by either mine or FunkySi's post. If that isn't the case, then I'd question why he's stating that in the first place!

 

The only reason you or anyone else should build or modify a car is for your own personal tastes, which is what you've done and, as far as I'm aware, the end result has been met with practically universal praise (from myself as well, at JAE, to you and him in person).

 

You seem to have taken great offence at my "Kleenex" statement but I only said that because Dasstech stated that you were upset. Again, if this isn't the case, then there was precisely no point to him saying that it was the case.

 

As you yourself said, very few (if any) cars here are strictly OEM, so the criteria cannot be an OEM vehicle or there would be no Z32 stand. Perhaps we need to know exactly what the organisers are looking for in an entered vehicle, before this thread descends even further into chaos and either misinterpretation or outright misinformation...?

 

 

Both me and Darren are passionate about Zed's and cars in general as most people on the forum are. So may be it come across in a different way over text or possibly Darren has feelings about the situation also which is perfectly normal as he poured his heart in to my car to make it what it is. Darren is a good friend and I value that.

 

Like I said before and I'll say it again you need to sort out what you want on the stand that's my moan you can't have to much in the mix it's just a mess at the moment.

 

If I had a problem with a comment you or Funkysi said before the cheap Kleenex quotes I would tell you!

And yes you have pi$$ed me off because you decided to take it upon yourself to make a joke about me off another person's thread.

 

No doubt you will carry on picking holes out of quotes and treating context as gospel, but to be honest I've got better things to do so fill ya boots and get what little enjoyment you can out of it.

 

I'm done with this matter!

If I had a problem with a comment you or Funkysi said before the cheap Kleenex quotes I would tell you!

And yes you have pi$$ed me off because you decided to take it upon yourself to make a joke about me off another person's thread.

 

 

WTF? :confused:

 

Where is this from either myself or Mondo?

Both me and Darren are passionate about Zed's and cars in general as most people on the forum are. So may be it come across in a different way over text or possibly Darren has feelings about the situation also which is perfectly normal as he poured his heart in to my car to make it what it is. Darren is a good friend and I value that.

 

Like I said before and I'll say it again you need to sort out what you want on the stand that's my moan you can't have to much in the mix it's just a mess at the moment.

 

If I had a problem with a comment you or Funkysi said before the cheap Kleenex quotes I would tell you!

And yes you have pi$$ed me off because you decided to take it upon yourself to make a joke about me off another person's thread.

 

No doubt you will carry on picking holes out of quotes and treating context as gospel, but to be honest I've got better things to do so fill ya boots and get what little enjoyment you can out of it.

 

I'm done with this matter!

 

My "joke" wasn't even directed at you - it was directed at Darren and his outright statement (and, by his own admission, his rant) that you were, and I quote here, "upset" about what had been said!

 

At no point was he implying, stating or suggesting that he was upset about any of it - he quite simply stated that you were. Hence my comments about trying to find a reason for you to be upset when the very worst that's ever been said about your Zed is that perhaps it's not suited for an event where OEM or a close approximation is apparently the expected norm!

 

There's no context for me to play with, Danny; I simply responded to his post. The post where he stated that you were upset. And I'm getting no enjoyment from any of this farcical back and forth whatsoever.

 

So, instead of being angry at me for, perhaps you should be angry at the person who, by all accounts, has outright lied publicly about your feelings and state of mind, just to try and punctuate his own point...?

I think Dan, you have to calm down a bit, no has insulted your car and quite right as you won the coty, and no one insulted you. roger mondo made a sarky comment about needing Kleenex (not directed at you specifically) which of course might have pissed you off, but I'm sure other would agree with me saying that your car is easily up to standard for NEC as long as the committee appreciates that it's the sort of car they are looking for or not.

I think Dan, you have to calm down a bit, no has insulted your car and quite right as you won the coty, and no one insulted you. roger mondo made a sarky comment about needing Kleenex (not directed at you specifically) which of course might have pissed you off, but I'm sure other would agree with me saying that your car is easily up to standard for NEC as long as the committee appreciates that it's the sort of car they are looking for or not.

 

The car is without question up to the standard (if not beyond), I think it's the fact that people (who are not in such a position) bringing into question the correct type of cars the club should display, funkysi stated that it isn't a modified car event, true it isn't, but to suggest he knows what people visiting the show will want to see is just wrong.

 

And as for the likes of Jason farrows zed, I GUARANTEE people will look closely at it and be drawn in by it just likes dans zed if either were on the stand.

 

CLASSIC CAR SHOW

NOT MOST OEM OR OEM+ or whatever other title you want to give it......

The car is without question up to the standard (if not beyond), I think it's the fact that people (who are not in such a position) bringing into question the correct type of cars the club should display, funkysi stated that it isn't a modified car event, true it isn't, but to suggest he knows what people visiting the show will want to see is just wrong.

 

And as for the likes of Jason farrows zed, I GUARANTEE people will look closely at it and be drawn in by it just likes dans zed if either were on the stand.

 

CLASSIC CAR SHOW

NOT MOST OEM OR OEM+ or whatever other title you want to give it......

 

Don't always listen to Si though, many other people have said that it is good to show people what the car could be like if they owned it. I'm sure even classic car snobs would even turn up their nose to an OEM+ car because they think a classic car should be exactly as it was in the posters (with those ugly wheels) but that would clearly put lots of people off the car.

funkysi stated that it isn't a modified car event, true it isn't, but to suggest he knows what people visiting the show will want to see is just wrong.

 

 

It's not wrong at all. It might be a generalisation, but speaking from experience as an exhibitor there and a long term visitor, I'd say I've had a good judge of the people that go there, the cars on exhibition, the exhibitors and the audience. Sure, some might want to see something like that, but on the whole, it's not what the show is all about and I am not entirely sure why people are having a hard time grasping that concept and why everyone is getting so upset about it.

 

There seem to be a whole load of pointless nonsense going on above with people taking everything out of context. What started off as something light hearted and informative has turned into a load of swearing and capital letters. :rofl:

 

I remember when they filled the Haynes Motor Museum with a load of Max Power feature cars and heavily modified magazine feature type cars - that exhibit didn't last very long.

 

It's different horses for different courses is all I am saying and from experience too. :)

It's not wrong at all. It might be a generalisation, but speaking from experience as an exhibitor there and a long term visitor, I'd say I've had a good judge of the people that go there, the cars on exhibition, the exhibitors and the audience. Sure, some might want to see something like that, but on the whole, it's not what the show is all about and I am not entirely sure why people are having a hard time grasping that concept and why everyone is getting so upset about it.

 

There seem to be a whole load of pointless nonsense going on above with people taking everything out of context. What started off as something light hearted and informative has turned into a load of swearing and capital letters. :rofl:

 

I remember when they filled the Haynes Motor Museum with a load of Max Power feature cars and heavily modified magazine feature type cars - that exhibit didn't last very long.

 

It's different horses for different courses is all I am saying and from experience too. :)

Just out of interest why isn't there a Haynes manual for it when there is far cars of similar age?

Just out of interest why isn't there a Haynes manual for it when there is far cars of similar age?

 

No idea. Probably because for the time, it was too complex and there wasn't the demand for it, it wasn't sold for very long in the UK which was initially where the manuals were sold. People initially wouldn't tackle the car. I don't think there's one for the Mitsubishi GTO or the Toyota Supra MK4 either.

No need to fall out about this guys. We just what names and ideas from the membership then we can move forward. Simple's :)

I don't get why everyone is getting themselves all worked up over this.

 

As a subscribed member I pay an annual £10 towards THE RUNNING of this place. The money isn't to give me a say in how it is run, or who runs it. It pays for server fees, Public Liability Insurance, and if I'm really lucky some form of discount at a show or event I may attend.

 

It does not give me the right to dictate what kind kind of car (OEM/OEM+/modified/*******ised/ruined) should be on the club stand at ANY show. Never mind the NEC classic.

The folk who run the club are the ones who should be choosing. They are the ones running the club and choosing its direction. Whilst you may not agree with it (I haven't always agreed with it) you need to live with it.

If they want to choose cars A. B, C, D for a show like the NEC then accept it. It's their prerogative.

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Edited January 23, 20169 yr by (adl) phoenix

The car is without question up to the standard (if not beyond), I think it's the fact that people (who are not in such a position) bringing into question the correct type of cars the club should display, funkysi stated that it isn't a modified car event, true it isn't, but to suggest he knows what people visiting the show will want to see is just wrong.

 

And as for the likes of Jason farrows zed, I GUARANTEE people will look closely at it and be drawn in by it just likes dans zed if either were on the stand.

 

CLASSIC CAR SHOW

NOT MOST OEM OR OEM+ or whatever other title you want to give it......

 

At no point EVER has anyone said that Danny's car isn't up to show standard - the ONLY thing that's EVER been said is that maybe it's not the sort of "classic Z32" for this one particular event!

 

I've said, innumerable times and even to both the owner's face and the builder's, how much I like the car and how great it is. I'd personally love to see it getting the recognition it deserves, which it's already started to do by winning COTY. Danny had an idea and a vision, put it into motion and the end result won Car of the Year.

 

What I take huge exception to is people lying. Darren stated that Danny was upset by comments about his car in this thread, but Danny says that he was never upset. Indeed, the only person he's actually upset (or angry) with is me, for responding to an apparent lie posted earlier in this thread with some flippancy. And the only reason I responded in a flippant matter is because there hadn't been a bad word said about his car!!

 

Can people actually understand this? Nobody's slating the car or saying it's been poorly built or isn't a worthy show exhibit... far from it, in fact.

 

Y'know what, I've had more than enough of this idiocy. I'm getting thinly-veiled and blatant digs from people, and they're all based on my response to someone else's dramatics and/or lies, so I'm officially done with this thread and this whole matter. If I'm going to be the target for someone else's dishonesty, you can go and find yourselves a new scapegoat! :thumbup1:

 

 

 

we don't have to like each others cars, but surely we can respect them and the effort we all put into them

 

Why did you put this quote here? This has absolutely nothing to do with any of it! :rofl:

 

From what I can see anyway, EVERYONE loves Danny's car which is what appears to be at the centre of all this, myself included! :rofl: and most think it would be a great car to have on the stand myself included

 

Mr Dasstech (who isn't even a club member) has all got all shitty and fabricated a bunch of nonsense about something Mondo didn't say (and possibly doing a bit of back-door trading in the process) and now everyone's creating a bandwagon shitstorm over absolutely nothing at all. This whole thing is utterly hilarious! :D

Edited January 22, 201610 yr by Funkysi

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Edited January 23, 20169 yr by (adl) phoenix