Stainless steel FUEL lines

[Alic]

I figured it would be a good idea to fit braided FUEL lines as i've heard the rubber ones can crack or whatever, and i have to take them off anyway.

 

I saw brightFAME's guide from a couple years back with his red connecters which would suit my colour scheme.

 

Where have other people got them, they are around $85 on Z1 without postage. If i feel really cheap i could get them from ebay for about £10 but I don't trust the quality of the ebay specials as you can understand.

 

Is there somewhere i can get them cheaper than Z1, tbh its just a stainless hose with connectors on the end.

 

 

** UPDATED to say FUEL rather than BRAKE. :)

Edited November 23, 2015 by JaiKai

[Alic]

Humpty bumpty

[Mondo]

 

Is there somewhere i can get them cheaper than Z1, tbh its just a stainless hose with connectors on the end.

 

A bump after 12 hours...?? Really?

 

You've already answered your own question: you can get them cheaper off eBay. But you don't trust the quality of them. So you're snookering yourself a little bit...

[Stephen]

Driftworks. Only thing is they don't have the locating bushes. If I was you I'd be ripping the interior out and getting it high in the air and cleaning and refreshing all the underside so it's future proofed and you know what needs fixing before going down the bolt on mods route. Then getting a major service sorted, cam belt etc. it's not like your in a hurry.

[Pebkau]

Stephen is right that is a brilliant shell in time warp condition get under it and protect it first

[Alic]

Stephan, you are right. The cambelt is being changed next spring, but of course I can't do it straight away because it costs money... Lots. So I have to save up some money for the full service all in one go. For now I am just doing the small cheap things. (Whilst being tempted by all the parts going for sale on here!)

 

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[JaiKai]

I used Hel braided lines on my last zed with no issues.

[Alic]

On their website i can only see brake, clutch and turbo braided lines for the 300zx

[Alic]

Oh god damn it i just realised i named the whole thread wrong, its meant to be Braided FUEL lines, not brake lines.

[Alic]

I put brakes lines everywhere, i'm so stupid. JaiKai could you rename the thread to braided Fuel lines please?

[Sir Charles]

Whoops!

[JaiKai]

Updated !

 

So is the lines you want the ones that go from the filter over the top of the plenum to the fuel rail ?

 

I put brakes lines everywhere, i'm so stupid. JaiKai could you rename the thread to braided Fuel lines please?

[Alic]

Yes correct. So like in brightFAME's tutorial here: http://www.300zx.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?153545-Guide-Fitting-Stainless-Steel-Braided-Fuel-Lines

 

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[Funkysi]

Unless you're going to convert everything to AN joints when running a very high pressure fuel delivery system, I really wouldn't waste your time with braided fuel hose. I'd retain the solid hosing and fit new rubber couplers and rubber fuel lines. The pressure isn't enough really to make any difference and the inners are only rubber or silicone anyway and the braided rubber lines are flippin' ugly.

Edited November 24, 2015 by Funkysi

[Alic]

So when i take them off just replace them just as they are then? If I'm just going to use the rubber ones i don't think i will spend extra money getting replacements if there is nothing wrong with them. Braided lines was just an idea as i had to take them off anyway and the braided ones are more durable.

[JaiKai]

Just buy some high pressure fuel line and cut to size.

 

I used to run that braided stuff on my zed a few years back and I always had issues with it leaking as the connections

easily become damaged if over tightened and it was easier to replace a jubilee rather than a full braded hose.

 

 

So when i take them off just replace them just as they are then? If I'm just going to use the rubber ones i don't think i will spend extra money getting replacements if there is nothing wrong with them. Braided lines was just an idea as i had to take them off anyway and the braided ones are more durable.

[Funkysi]

Those cheap braided lines probably won't last half as long as the stock originals which are actually pretty good quality. I'm soon to be replacing mine with brand new OEM lines. Mine aren't leaking, I'm just future proofing it when I refit a powdercoated balance bar and hard-line.

 

The only time I'd fit braided fuel lines (true braided fuel lines) is if I were to increase the fuel pressure substantially and wanted UNC couplers throughout.

[Alic]

Thanks for the advice guys, I'll stick to the rubber hoses then :thumbup:

[JaiKai]

I'd say braided lines are for dress up only as they still have the basic high pressure hose inside and the fancy

end are no more than jubilee clamps with special covers to hide them.

Thanks for the advice guys, I'll stick to the rubber hoses then :thumbup:

[Alic]

Just thought Metal > Rubber. Clearly not...

[takemetothepub]

If you want to have braided have braided, don't let the likes of FungleBumpkin tell you otherwise, it's your car not theirs. Have what you want.

 

You can get it cheap enough from Demon Tweeks at about a £10 a meter and buy your own end/connectors from them at £5 a pop in whatever colour you want. Quality won't be an issue with it ;)

[Alic]

I was under the impression that braided lines would be more durable, and proven wrong i have no problem with keeping the rubber hoses.

[Alic]

I know Si likes to have his strong opinions about what his car should like, but when it comes to advice he knows more than me so I really have to take what he says on board.

[Funkysi]

Since you asked mate and someone else seems to have got a bit of sand in their vagina, allow me to re-clarify. :)

 

Unless you're fitting an expensive high pressure system with AN fittings and true braided lines and a top-feed fuel rail or similar, it really isn't worth fitting those cheap braided rubber lines. They're no more durable as what's inside is rubber sleeved. The stock fuel system doesn't really produce anything close to 'high pressure', so you won't have issues with hoses ballooning or loosing their integrity.

 

Good quality rubber hoses, like new OEM items offer a good and 'known' solution.

[dougal200]

My personal choice was to go for black nylon braded lines with black AN fittings. However, I have converted my fuel rail to unf fittings and have an aeromotive FPR.

 

Several things to note on this though- I love this sort of detail although it offers zero performance benefit, it has cost quite a lot to do this, it has taken lots of time planning and fabricating and also there is a large potential to get things wrong and have leaks etc.

 

I've also converted my pas hoses too.

 

It now looks very neat (most people wouldn't think I've done anything) but in my opinion there are hundreds of things I'd do before this.

 

Be aware there are three types of system used that might look quite similar.

 

Braided rubber hose with fancy jubilee clips that look like AN fittings

Braided rubber hose with compression or cutting action AN fittings

Braided ptfe hose (good for E85 etc) with compression AN fittings

 

My advice would be to get some good quality injection hose (gates or similar ) and replace all you fuel hose- good for reliability.

 

I'd also spend your time learning to set the engine up right to factory- get a boost leak checker and a consult cable plus go over all of the electrical connections. You will find you will learn a lot this way, won't cost you too much and you should have a nice running car at the end