Can anyone remember who the guy on ebay was that was supplying the above? wouldnt mind getting a drivers side set before i need them

Guys, Im here in Croatia, and labor work is soo much cheaper than in UK. Basicly we are still eastern europe country no mater what they tell you. But that doesn't mean that we don't have quality shops that could make something like this, most likely at 50% of UK cost.

 

If you are interested I can check for prices without any commitment on your end.

I see what your saying Si, but to import a part that big, I would expect the shipping to become a hindrance. It's well worth speaking to z1 as you say, they may already have a plan in progress.

 

I understand that were not going to run around chasing things, however a collection of commonly replaced panels is easy to aquire simply by asking. Then collect a sample of those common panels, good ones obv, I'm sure the members would donate to the cause. Then start speaking to sheet metal/fabrication shops about having drawings or tooling created. This way in future the drawing is there to produce a part that you may not be able to find all that easily. This saves massively for the process of having a new part made. I hate to bring this up but investment such as thing into the prolonged life of the marque is indeed a good use of club funds.

Not only that, but it's surely a huge incentive for new subscribed members, if their subscription gains them access to difficult to source/ decent quality parts.

I see what your saying Si, but to import a part that big, I would expect the shipping to become a hindrance. It's well worth speaking to z1 as you say, they may already have a plan in progress.

 

I understand that were not going to run around chasing things, however a collection of commonly replaced panels is easy to aquire simply by asking. Then collect a sample of those common panels, good ones obv, I'm sure the members would donate to the cause. Then start speaking to sheet metal/fabrication shops about having drawings or tooling created. This way in future the drawing is there to produce a part that you may not be able to find all that easily. This saves massively for the process of having a new part made. I hate to bring this up but investment such as thing into the prolonged life of the marque is indeed a good use of club funds.

 

Realistically, they're the only people that are really going to be able to get something like this produced in volume and what could be considered 'a reasonable cost'. There is no market over here, well there is, but not one enough to make things affordable. They may even still have access to any available US stock which is stock that UK suppliers and Nissan UK can not physically see. Nissan UK draws from Amsterdam which in turn will draw from Japan. Now Japan have phased out a lot of Z32 components already, the US still has substantial component availability for the Z32.

I've never looked into body repair panels before as I've never needed any and are unlikely to (in terms of corrosion), so I didn't know, but I checked Courtesy Nissan and it appears the outer arch skins and sill panels are still available, as are complete rear quarters.

 

http://www.courtesyparts.com/-c-882_883_1024_1025.html

 

The diagrams however are a little bit 'missleading'. It appears to suggest that you can buy 'outer' wheel arch panels and 'inner'. Both however look like 'inner'. I am not sure whether the construction of the Z32 rear arch is of a triple layer as I've never hacked one to bits.

Guys, Im here in Croatia, and labor work is soo much cheaper than in UK. Basicly we are still eastern europe country no mater what they tell you. But that doesn't mean that we don't have quality shops that could make something like this, most likely at 50% of UK cost.

 

If you are interested I can check for prices without any commitment on your end.

 

Great offer right there. Don't know why the other guys are ignoring your post?

Sorry crossfire, definitely wasn't ignoring your post. That is a great offer and would be hugely appreciated by everyone. Thank you.

cross fire what type of prices and quantieys we talking about ?

Great offer right there. Don't know why the other guys are ignoring your post?

 

We're not mate!!

 

He posted at almost midnight last night and I for one was in bed asleep....:wink:

 

And as for the investment of club funds into such a project - it is not as straight forward as one might think. There will have to be much research into the feasibility of producing the panels on a larger scale; and the economic benefits to whoever finally produces them. And then what happens if that company folds - or decided it was no longer economically viable to continue manufacture, once we made the investment?

 

And another question from me (forgive me, as I am not technical) but for what it's worth, could a decent body-shop not fabricate a replacement panel from sheet metal and weld it in place; on a job-by-job basis? If so, could this be another reason why there has been little demand to date - because that's what has been happening when owners have had their cars repaired?

 

Don't get me wrong, I am all for this idea in principle; but as an accountant and business man myself, I have to question the viability of such a project:wink:

 

Richard:cool:

cross fire what type of prices and quantieys we talking about ?

 

Now this is what we need to get things moving....

 

.....As I said, the best solution is for a trader (or even group of traders) to get on board with the idea and assess whether it is viable in the first place....:clover:

We're not mate!!

 

He posted at almost midnight last night and I for one was in bed asleep....:wink:

 

And as for the investment of club funds into such a project - it is not as straight forward as one might think. There will have to be much research into the feasibility of producing the panels on a larger scale; and the economic benefits to whoever finally produces them. And then what happens if that company folds - or decided it was no longer economically viable to continue manufacture, once we made the investment?

 

And another question from me (forgive me, as I am not technical) but for what it's worth, could a decent body-shop not fabricate a replacement panel from sheet metal and weld it in place; on a job-by-job basis? If so, could this be another reason why there has been little demand to date - because that's what has been happening when owners have had their cars repaired?

 

Don't get me wrong, I am all for this idea in principle; but as an accountant and business man myself, I have to question the viability of such a project:wink:

 

Richard:cool:

 

This 'might' be the wrong time and place for this. It is only a suggestion and I think it would ultimately benefit its members, but what would the position of the committee be in in terms of investment into producing things like this and ultimately opening a club shop supplying this on a not-for-profit basis to recoup costs? We have a club store over on 3ZC (US 300zx owners club forum), granted, the website is run completely differently, but we have a club store and offer group buys on various items that members would like. It could be an idea for the UK side of things to have product either sourced or locally manufactured and sold via a 300zx.co.uk store? Just a thought.

We're not mate!!

 

He posted at almost midnight last night and I for one was in bed asleep....:wink:

 

And as for the investment of club funds into such a project - it is not as straight forward as one might think. There will have to be much research into the feasibility of producing the panels on a larger scale; and the economic benefits to whoever finally produces them. And then what happens if that company folds - or decided it was no longer economically viable to continue manufacture, once we made the investment?

 

And another question from me (forgive me, as I am not technical) but for what it's worth, could a decent body-shop not fabricate a replacement panel from sheet metal and weld it in place; on a job-by-job basis? If so, could this be another reason why there has been little demand to date - because that's what has been happening when owners have had their cars repaired?

 

Don't get me wrong, I am all for this idea in principle; but as an accountant and business man myself, I have to question the viability of such a project:wink:

 

Richard:cool:

 

I merely meant the posts after his had carried on as if he hadn't even offered this option. Good to see everyone on board looking to help save as many zeds as possible. Particularly as they own some of the finer Zeds' and this isn't as much as a priority for them as it will be for others. Pro activity at its best and good for both the club and owners.

This 'might' be the wrong time and place for this. It is only a suggestion and I think it would ultimately benefit its members, but what would the position of the committee be in in terms of investment into producing things like this and ultimately opening a club shop supplying this on a not-for-profit basis to recoup costs? We have a club store over on 3ZC (US 300zx owners club forum), granted, the website is run completely differently, but we have a club store and offer group buys on various items that members would like. It could be an idea for the UK side of things to have product either sourced or locally manufactured and sold via a 300zx.co.uk store? Just a thought.

 

It's not a bad idea at all Si - and not the wrong time to discuss it either; as this thread has evolved in that direction anyway...:wink:

 

But it could be done that way; the club will of course not be permitted to any financial gain from it. Nonetheless we could potentially have such parts manufactured to order and sell them via the club shop at cost. For me it is no problem - provided the supplier would be prepared to continue making the items for us. And at a cost that would not prohibit our members buying them.....

 

Granted, I have no idea whether a supplier would or would not get on board with us. But if they were only being asked to make one or two a year, would they think it worthwhile...? I don't know - but if they would then I cannot see a problem with your idea working!!

 

Richard

I merely meant the posts after his had carried on as if he hadn't even offered this option. Good to see everyone on board looking to help save as many zeds as possible. Particularly as they own some of the finer Zeds' and this isn't as much as a priority for them as it will be for others. Pro activity at its best and good for both the club and owners.

 

No worries Dave....:cool:

 

But you are right mate - from a simple question about the availability of parts, this has evolved into a useful and (for the future of many 300zxs) important debate. Whilst many of us do have cars that don't require such bits now - who knows what a few more years on the UK's roads will do to our Zeds??

 

Richard:)

Whilst i appreciate that all zeds are likely to be prone to rust, is the rotting sill syndrome more associated with the UK model and how many of the membership have a UK model in comparison to Jap spec, so as usual im sure, it would depend on the demand to warrant such an investment.

Whilst i appreciate that all zeds are likely to be prone to rust, is the rotting sill syndrome more associated with the UK model and how many of the membership have a UK model in comparison to Jap spec, so as usual im sure, it would depend on the demand to warrant such an investment.

 

It was more associated with UK cars, but most that are still on the road now have either had them repaired or are low mileage examples. We're seeing a lot more Jap specs rusting now and that number is increasing.

did someone actually call the guy at the start who has/had access to these parts?

It was more associated with UK cars, but most that are still on the road now have either had them repaired or are low mileage examples. We're seeing a lot more Jap specs rusting now and that number is increasing.

 

Or are just not driven when there is any chance of salt being on the road, like mine. As far as I know, the factory applied the same anti

corrosion to all cars. The UK cars got the most exposure to salt and suffered first. The Japanese imports are now starting to suffer the

same. In Japan they don't salt their roads.

Or are just not driven when there is any chance of salt being on the road, like mine. As far as I know, the factory applied the same anti

corrosion to all cars. The UK cars got the most exposure to salt and suffered first. The Japanese imports are now starting to suffer the

same. In Japan they don't salt their roads.

 

Your car is an exception, not the rule! :) Agreed, absolutely. Japan's roads are sprayed with some sort of crushed volcanic silicate during winter months and those only tend to be on the northern islands. For that reason alone, I wish we had volcanoes over here! haha. It's the sole reason that I will never drive my Z in winter months, if I did, I may as well just hurl sodium carbonate and gravel all over it. UK winters absolutely destroy cars.

....and yes, all factory undersealing on Z32s was the same.

One thing I would be very interested to get are opinions on the best rust proofing products/systems available for our cars. Applied

either professionally or DIY.

Dinitrol is supposed to be one of the best you can get.

 

http://www.dinitrol.co.uk/classic_cars.aspx

did someone actually call the guy at the start who has/had access to these parts?

 

Doubt it, Pete explained the guy isn't the manufacturer and the manufacture isn't interested in z32 panels, as he can make ones for others cars that are worth making panels for.

 

The way I see it a total reliance on the us isn't productive. It's counter productive in terms of cost, were paying a us based middle man, then paying again to get it here. Also bear in mind a lot of us stuff is based on swb models, as all twin turbos were swb from factory there. So just like many us exhaust manufactures, I'd expect us panel production to concentrate on swb. Which are the minority if cars here in Europe as a whole.

 

As I said at the beginning here and about a year ago on another thread, we NEED to start preparing for the future. A car that is worth nothing and costs a fortune to fix is not going to last. The only way to improve the cars profile here in the uk is better parts supply and a higher average standard. These are mutually linked things. That group buy recently for looms through that guy that makes them is a great example of what we Need. Marks efforts with twin chip have been great, it's silly though that we have to import from Peru via Germany! What the hell is all that about? I remember speaking to z1 months back about getting a rep in here, there a sponsor yet they have no presence? "There's something in the pipeline" was the response yet I see nothing?

Dinitrol is supposed to be one of the best you can get.

 

http://www.dinitrol.co.uk/classic_cars.aspx

 

Apparently so, this is the stuff my mate uses on old 911s. If anyone wants to see rustproof and shell perpetration look a at the classic car scene, we are wayyyyyyy behind.

Doubt it, Pete explained the guy isn't the manufacturer and the manufacture isn't interested in z32 panels, as he can make ones for others cars that are worth making panels for.

 

The way I see it a total reliance on the us isn't productive. It's counter productive in terms of cost, were paying a us based middle man, then paying again to get it here. Also bear in mind a lot of us stuff is based on swb models, as all twin turbos were swb from factory there. So just like many us exhaust manufactures, I'd expect us panel production to concentrate on swb. Which are the minority if cars here in Europe as a whole.

 

As I said at the beginning here and about a year ago on another thread, we NEED to start preparing for the future. A car that is worth nothing and costs a fortune to fix is not going to last. The only way to improve the cars profile here in the uk is better parts supply and a higher average standard. These are mutually linked things. That group buy recently for looms through that guy that makes them is a great example of what we Need. Marks efforts with twin chip have been great, it's silly though that we have to import from Peru via Germany! What the hell is all that about? I remember speaking to z1 months back about getting a rep in here, there a sponsor yet they have no presence? "There's something in the pipeline" was the response yet I see nothing?

 

As in many instances, we didnt hear back from the Loom company to become a trader, who also happened to be the same guy that Jaikai had been dealing with for his own.

Havent heard back yet fro the the clutch company who recently inquired, but he has been away in the US all week so may get a response.

Twinz product availabilty in this country already explained why in previous posts, cost of stocking all products and numbers of products too high, along with their business acumen is not appealing to any UK company.

 

You yourself have spoken to several companies and where did you get?