EvoluZion3

my Z started off as an auto, but due to its age and the modifications it was having, it lost all gears after 2nd so i opted for a manual conversion, which is becoming a very popular thing to have done. i always preferred a manual because you have more control and you dont get unexpected change-downs and tub spool-ups on wet roundabouts!!!! however i miss the auto in a way, great for city driving, and for dragging - just sitting back, planting your right foot and holding onto the steering wheel for dear life is something you cant do in a manual :(

i think thats the truest thing ive heard for a long time. the point is, no more are being made so as each day goes by and another one is broken/scrapped, all the remaining ones go up by 20p (anyone see The One with Jet Li ;) ) until there's only one left, worth a billion pounds and comes with 90 tonnes of spares.

ordered mine too! bet the guy's wondering what's going on! the 350Z's are cool as well.

not guilty squire! i reckon it was you tho :D

congratulations to the 3 of you!! :duffer:

i have to admit i couldnt resist one of them black Nissan ones Darren ;) I had a word with Arkwright the other day! :nana2:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: 0/10 for discretion!

Celica GT4's arent too bad really. nice choice.

...another exercise machine!!! :slap: sorry, erm well its got to be a blue Z then :dance:

^^^ what he said about what the other guy said! ^^^

yes sorry what was i thinking NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

that thing in the blue swimsuit IS the devil, no doubt about it!

paid :hyper:

welcome back doode! :D :hyper:

mate if its not too late could you use this one - i think the angle may be better than the one in my sig. :hyper:

how about 'ihaveazx'. sorry :nelson:

if someone does something illegally you cant help that can you? if someone steals a powerful car and smashes into someone you cant do anything about it - except chop their hands off, but thats wishful thinking.

well i think we've got a queue here mate. :) how much does 30-40mins of your time cost?

i agree :hyper: one sugar or two?

the thing with cars is, its not just their risk. if they lose control and go head-on into someone else, then an innocent party is involved. and that's where the problem lies. someone speeding round a corner and ending up in the river or ditch is one thing, cos it affects no-one else (in terms of injury/damage), but me, you, and most other people are paying more in insurance to make up for the damage caused partially by inexperienced drivers in cars too powerful for them. nobody's banning powerful cars, nobody's preventing anybody from ever in their life driving a powerful car, but i personally think that (for example) a 17-year-old who has just passed their test should not (for the first few months) sit at the wheel of a 300bhp rear-wheel drive, twin-turbocharged car. not everyone is a responsible driver like you or me Sarah but as always its the minority that spoil it for everyone else. right im going to put the kettle on.

awesome, i love those! would like one of mine too.

FFS not just a Z - any powerful car! :rolleyes:

thats great, and you are a member of the majority, but the point (or at least my point) is that you had driving experience before you bought the Z, because it wasnt your first car.

good lad! welcome to the club mate!

its not a matter of blaming the dealer if someone crashes a newly-bought powerful car - i for one am certainly all for personal responsibility and all that. i think the jist (or gist) we're trying to get at (ignoring the thread title) is that generally selling powerful cars to inexperienced drivers is a bad thing. is this a sensible thing to say, cos i for one am p***ed off paying higher insurance for young chavs smashing up their knackered subaru (and someone else's car and possibly life)