steve burns

posted up on the JAE website not sure if it has been posted here QUOTE i found this on anothe r forum, is it true, considering lots of cars at JAE are already modfied from japan. Quote: Hi Everyone, As we always like to keep everyone up to date with any changes that may affect skylines and performance car owners, the following news is just about as bad as it can get. We have just found out through the back door today about new rule changes for all vehicles under 10 years old, skylines included, that will seriously affect anyone trade or individual importing any sports vehicle of any make that has even the slightest after market modification, add on, or any item fitted that is not factory non standard. i.e If a car has an after market front bumper or spoiler it will cause a possible change to the airbag sensor / inflation point, and the only way that you can produce evidence of compliance is to have a model report done on the car, which could cost up to 10 grand! Under the new enhanced ESVA legislation we have been led to believe by the Vehicle Inspectorate that only cars first registered from Jan 97 onwards will be affected by the new enhanced rules and that any car ,for instance first registered before that date will only need a japanese De-Registration document with Japanese type approval numbers to be sufficient evidence of compliance for 1994/1995/1996 cars under the 10 year rule. The jobsworths have moved the goalposts yet again and now state that any non standard fitment or modification will be an immediate test failure for ESVA! on pre 1997 vehicles also! This includes the following: 1. Any aftermarket bodykits 2. Non factory standard alloy wheels where the factory radius size is different 3.suspension 4.Intercoolers ( GT-R 33 models exempt as it is fitted standard ) but must be Nissan! 5.Exhausts and downpipes etc 6. all visible non standard engine mods such as: Air Induction kits/ Turbochargers, Turbo boost controllers, dump valves,air horns, pipework, radiators, brakes, brake Discs, etc 7. ECU's In fact any item that is non standard factory fitted including interior guages, gear knobs etc, just about any item that will give the jobsworths an excuse for a Vosa inspector to fail a car. This has very serious implications for all of us buying and using any kind of modified cars, as the sheer cost to change everything back to standard could cost more than the actual car cost and cause everyone massive expense and headaches getting things done. Another example of the bloody UK over regulating and attack on the motorist by this poxy labour government! I have today spent over 3 hours on the phone to VOSA Swansea trying to get any kind of reasonable conclusion to this totally unexpected situation, and to be honest it is a waste of time trying to be objective and get any kind of sensible conclusion from the head of ESVA at VOSA, Swansea, they just do not want to know and are sticking rigidly to the legislation as they see it. All that was written in any information sheet or rule book issued by them was the following: Any vehicle coming under the enhanced regulations first registered prior to 1st January 1997 will only have to produce a Japanese D-Registration document as proof of acceptable type approval. What they are now saying without any warning to the Motor Trade or personal importers is that if a car has even one or more after market modifications, then the Japanese type approval for these cars is null and viod and you have the chioce of either changing everything back to standard or getting individual type approval model reports done for an individual car, which is totally impossible and quite frankly *****cks, as you would have to change everything back standard to comply for a model report anyway! thus costing twice as much all round. It is not viable to get an individual model report done for just one individual car This seriously affects all modified type sports cars that we all love: Skylines, Supras, Evo's, honda's, GTO's etc, so the only way that we will get anything resolved or changed at all is for every sports car owning enthusiast to send a petition or similar letter of protestations etc aimed at the vehicle inspectorate, or the next thing that will happen is they will bring in similar legislation for MOT's etc and then that will definately bugger things up. So everyone has to get together on this and let other forums know this situation as anyone importing and testing a car that is under 10 years old will have serious to impossible situations on getting a car through the new enhanced ESVA test. The Vehicle inspectorate senior technical standards official stated that these rules have been in place for all to see since 2001! absolute crap as this was only a consultation document and had no mention whatsoever about after market non standard modifications to any vehicles first registered before 1st January 1997. I was told that this was the case with no exceptions as far as they were concerned. So not only do we have to get a car through emmisions and noise test levels, we now have to totally get a car back to standard for a one off 1 hour test, where once done and passed, you then have to change it all back again. What an awfull waste of the consumers hard earned cash for a genuine vehicle that will pass the legal MOT and what was SVA type approval requirements. Its just another kind of stealth tax on the motorist. I argued back that as we had only been informed today by an inspector of the vehicle inspectorate who had only yesterday been informed himself whilst on a refresher course of this situation about modifications that it was unreasonable to expect us to know if his own employee's did not! which I thought was a legitimate point, but it made no difference. WE are putting an official complaint into the Vehicle Inspectorate VOSA expressing our feelings and that they are bending the law to suit themselves and the obvious pressure from motor manufacturers to stop imports coming in. There will be a forum e-mail address to send your support and protest so that we can get a huge petition going against the Vehicle Inspectorate ruling,so watch this space. Meantime you can write a nice letter to the head of VOSA at: Steve Box VOSA Berkely House Croydon Street Bristol BS5 0DA and let them know that trying to stop importation of modified cars that will comply with normal MOT and standard SVA requirements for road safety, emmisions, noise etc will not be tolerated. If we all do not pull together on this, they will walk all over the performance import sector and bugger up what is a lifestyle and pleasure for many thousands of motorists and enthusiasts all over the country. Those of us in the trade who are used to this constant moving of goalposts will have to comply, but all of you guys who get your own cars in are going to have a nightmare complying, which is totally unfair and this should not be allowed to happen! Stuart http://www.skylinesrus.com

no baggins herman or jay don't you want to see your ancesters they will miss you :cry:

hi mark sorry not replied to your email re marquee but dad was very ill just noticed that people who are organising jae2004 have not got the 300zx.co up as one of the clubs attending the show could you check out announcement "jae 2004" at the top of the jae forum/website cheerz steve

should be at the monkey world car park arround 12.30

need to find where to get a pressure switch that works at 0.5 psi can source adjustable switches but cant find any that go down that low any body know where to find them

just a reminder as it looks if I will be lonely on the drive down

16th May As this is the year of the Monkey, the Awol group intends to travel down in convoy to Monkey World to meet up with the South Central and South West local Z groups I will be at Fleet Services on the West side of the M3 at 9.45 leaving at 10.00 calling in at the Winchester Service Area at 10.30. Leaving at 10.45 to a further pick up point at the Rufus Stone Services just after Junction 1 on the A31 at approximately 11.15 and then leaving at 11.30 for the 35 mile drive to Monkey World that is situated 4 miles past Bere Regis for info on monkey world see here

Ok guys if you don't want me to come just say so since posting that I could make it 3 people have said they can't now make it must be my armpits :dance:

going to have a break from seeing my dad in hospital (7 weeks now) and going to try to make it 280ZX Kaminari

did this go ahead?

jay are you getting senile like me or have you caught stupidity off me if people manage to turn up for the revised 28th March meet on the 21st they are a better man than me :nono: :slap: no one noticed at the meet at the Royal Oak on the 21st that I had put two odd shoes on or were you all to polite to say anything

more the merrier don't know how many will turn up though as its mothers day

Might be Might Not with my eyes and the quality of the handwriting thought I had done well to get the surname that close gives you an excuse to give me a slap on Sunday :slap:

bringing back to the top with points list for best attendee at meeting so far this year The next meeting of the AWOL group will be at the Royal Oak from 12 o'clock on the 21st March The Royal Oak is situated at Farnham Common on the A335 It is easy to find for both users of the M4 and M40 as the A335 joins the M4 at J6 and the M40 at J2 Although this date clashes with Mothers Day I can not alter the date as it has been published in the Z Club Magazine hope a few of you can come along even if it is only for a short while to view the points situation to date for AWOL award for the owner who supported most meeting over the year click on the attachment

list of z32s in my collection but comes out a bit disjointed as can't seem to upload a excell file

I personally cant change to 28th as its already advertised as 21st in the Z Club mag as have to put dates up in advance and have to go on that date :( why not bring your mums along

mark they won't let me in there as they say I'm of disruptive nature :nono:

they have always been like that for early bookings ask to speak to the manager and if he don't do nothing ask for the area manager and so on Last year they said they were fully booked up in january and turns out they wern't feel that we shouilkd get all the people attending the JAE this year to do a protest march past the hotel during the event with placards telling people not to use them money grabbing barstards note to Topless see i never rant about things :mac1:

hey guys thanks for the great responce to Molly's request really shows that when the occasion arises you all can bite your tongues and be some of the best guys in the Z Scene thanks again

Justine when I first received email thought it was odd when she asked for about a brown Z32 as i have never seen one either and then phoned her asking whether it was a 280ZX she was talking about but she assured me it was a Z32 she wanted in any colour but hads seen a metalic brown Z32 in her local garage maybe you could give her a phonecall ( better not say ring) so she sees some responce

not sure what section to post this under Received the following e-mail the other day and content explains all the lady is looking for a Z32 of any colour to act as her wedding car be really good if some one could help out "Hi Steve, Russ gave me your email address to get in contact with you. As you probably gathered, I am not after a traditional wedding car to take me to the registry office - I fell in love with a brown 300 in our local sports car garage - nobody wanted her because she was brown! Anyway, we are getting married on the 3rd of April at Guildford registry office, but my parents live in Aldershot so I would need picking up from there. I would need to fit myself and my sister in with you and then myself and my new hubbie in to go to our reception in a village called Tilford. If anyone could do this, I would obviously be happy to pay for your chauffering services, but I was wondering if you could email me a piccie of your car in the meantime. I hope that this would be something you could arrange for us, but if you can't or we are too far away, I will understand! Look forward to hearing from you soon. Molly Kind Regards Molly Hunt Customer Care Manager Memorise This molly@memorisethis.com 01420 511821 __________________ Steve Burns 280ZX Kaminari (the flying pig) Middlesex Z Club #40 300zx.co.uk #94 IZCC #2872

Good news latest post on Z Club forum from rich Zed "car has been found in Glasgow.. long way from London that is! just found parked on a street. also got a congestion charge yesterday (don't know if I posted that info) for the day of the theft." Last edited by rich Zed on 12-02-2004 at 12:44 PM

rich zed the guy who had his 350z nicked posted this on the Z Club forum "BLIMEY I've just been done for Congestion Charging too!! 4 Feb 2004 - The day it was stolen 14:31:16hrs Farringdon Road, London Begs the question... have the Police actually had access to this system? Surely they could have chased her down?? I called the local cop shop to report this, and they told me to call the Congestion people to tell them... 'erm excuse me.. I want to tell you that my car was spotted here at this time on the day it was stolen!! Took a little time to sink in that one!"

with the ammount of posts on here it soon goes to the bottom see you Sunday

well I sure walked into that one ( with the use of a Zimmer frame) even though at 56 I was the toyboy on the trip just remind me again as at my age the memory is beging to go what date is the meeting on :rolleyes: