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#1 Today, 03:47 PM
DarrenM
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Nissan 300ZX Twin Turbo
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At least.... He didnt absolutely crucify me.
Story:
Sat behind him in some traffic at the lights before it goes from 1 lane into 2. We both know we are both going to boot it but hes a slick one and does the old slowly coast up in 1st gear, get the turbos spinning ready for a boot. Im at a disadvantage not knowing exactly when to boot so I see his back end drop and he shoots forward very impressively. I boot it and surge too but with my crap clutch I manage to miss 2nd. By the time I'm in 2nd gear and I'm going for it again hes not making any ground away from me. We both hit traffic after about 10 seconds after I've kept up with him at the same distance all the way.
Analysis:
The late redtops have the heavier pot type flywheel meaning once you have it spinning up and you keep the revs up, bouncing off the limiter as you change they have a magnificent amount of pull around 4k onwards which the early redtops dont have.
I reckon I've lost about 100Kgs from my lightening of my car, maybe more. I reckon I'm now closer to 7s 0-60. Checking the Nissans specs they have 275BHP but 0-60 of 6.6s so even though he had a shed load more power the heavier car took most of it away.
Conclusion:
Redtop SRi's dont get the respect they deserve. You think its only 150BHP and only a 2l 16v NA but they are in real terms able to beat things like RST's, GT turbos, Pug 1.9 GTi's and almost keep up with Cav turbos, Rover Ti's, Sierra Cossies etc.
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#2 Today, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by DarrenM
Checking the Nissans specs they have 275BHP but 0-60 of 6.6s so even though he had a shed load more power the heavier car took most of it away.
I thought they were quicker than that (in the 5's). Maybe it was an auto?
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#3 Today, 03:57 PM
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i once raced 3 escort xr3 turbos, one phase 1 and 2 phase 2's at the same time on a dual carraigeway. blew them into the dust in my astra 16v. I loved that engine!
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#4 Today, 04:04 PM
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Nah Supra 330bhp TT's are in the 5's but not the Nissans
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#5 Today, 04:10 PM
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Those figures don't look right to me Darren (maybe they're for the auto?). These (click on the link below) look more realistic to me .... and are similar to others I've seen in autocar etc.
http://www.fast-autos.net/nissan/nissan300zx.html
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#6 Today, 04:15 PM
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The SRI's are often underrated and with the longer fifth f20 they can hit a real 138mph, which is pretty impressive.
I new that the later XE's had 'gearbox off' pot type clutches but never really considered the implications to performance (learn something new). I regularly keep with my friend who has a merc cosworth 205bhp, he is always amazed on how quick the sriXE is. He thought he should be able to kill it but in truth the performance is identical.
When driven properly they can be a real handful to some of the 'so-called' performance cars. This is why people that have never had one will always question threads in 'i beat this'.
I recently got to drive a v6 manual and found the XE felt a quicker car. The flywheel affect on the v6 is something i couldn't live with.
Well done on showing the riceburner that he wasn't the only quick thing on that road.
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When driven properly they can be a real handful to some of the 'so-called' performance cars. This is why people that have never had one will always question threads in 'i beat this'.
I recently got to drive a v6 manual and found the XE felt a quicker car. The flywheel affect on the v6 is something i couldn't live with.
The first comment there applies to the V6 imo, lots of people slate the F25 saying its slow etc etc, but drive it properly and its great. Ok so itll never be a traffic light grand prix, but get it into its "zone" and its great, lovely long 3rd gear, how many cars can do 110mph in 3rd
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#8 Today, 04:27 PM
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how many cars can do 110mph in 3rd
Not very many AFAIK ...... although my old Mk2 Cav CDi could get close (105mph on the speedo in 3rd)
My SRi only does around 85mph in 3rd.
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The first comment there applies to the V6 imo, lots of people slate the F25 saying its slow etc etc, but drive it properly and its great. Ok so itll never be a traffic light grand prix, but get it into its "zone" and its great, lovely long 3rd gear, how many cars can do 110mph in 3rd
all of them off a very tall cliff?
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#14 Today, 05:51 PM
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The Nissan 300zx TT is 5.5 secs, 280-300bhp (depending on version) and top speed of around 175mph. The specs printed above are WAY out. The Manual and Auto TT also boast near identical performance.
If it had been a TT, he could'nt of spooled the turbo's at the lights. They will only spool into positive boost under load at around 2500rpm (which would be around 20mph), and it would of resulted in the 300 horses hitting the back wheels and it snaking down the road or spinning out completely.
Its also much faster on the move, than it is from the lights, so either he was coasting when you kept up or it was probably a very good chance it was the Non-turbo. (220bhp, 0-60 low 7 secs).
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