Not going in to loads of detail, But i took my car to Z-tech about 3half years ago for an uprated engine fitting, which had to go back to be re-done due to massive oil useage :( which it stood again since Feb of last year till just after Chris took over the company. Chris honoured the the work and has re-built my engine for me and took it in for MOT which it failed :mad:

main thing is the brake pipes need replacing plus a couple of small jobs too.

i just feel like putting the fooking thing through a crushed I tell ya, As i know this isn't a small or cheap job to do.

Also found out that my gear box is on it's way out, which is a new one that i was told i needed by ryan because my old one was fooked So £800 later and it seems no new box was fitted.

 

Non of this is a go at chris at all, he's been a top bloke with me, And if i do keep the thing i will carry on using him, but at the mo i couldn't give a flying f**k about it

Does anybody have any idea what sort of price I'm looking at to get the lines done, Sounds like it's all of them full lenght of the car :headvswal

thanks graeme

the lines are really expensive, if you buy them new from Nissan.

And it's hard to find used ones that are good and undamaged.

 

the work to replace the lines takes a day or so:

-rear subframe/exhaust/driveshaft have to be removed to give good access to the lines in full length

-the interior in the trunk has to be removed (to give good access to the ABS pump)

-all panels in the front wings have to be removed

So about £1000 to sort it out then. Any body got any ideas, could flexi braided hose be used for the hard to get too areas other than striping it all off and just use the solid pipe for the length of the car ??,....

So about £1000 to sort it out then. Any body got any ideas, could flexi braided hose be used for the hard to get too areas other than striping it all off and just use the solid pipe for the length of the car ??,....

 

I thought about that ages ago and someone told me that they have more 'give' than solid lines so you would get a spongy pedal feel. Not totally convinced as they have miles of this stuff in aircraft but the only way to know for certain is with some real test data.

How many brake lines failed and where did they fail?

I thought about that ages ago and someone told me that they have more 'give' than solid lines so you would get a spongy pedal feel. Not totally convinced as they have miles of this stuff in aircraft but the only way to know for certain is with some real test data.

indeed... the stainless braided flexible hoses that we use operate @ pressures in excess of 3000psi... all you need is some hose of a similar spec to goodridge hoses and itll be all good :)

Si they failed both front + rears underneath the car over the axle's and pipes going into the calipers, due to the length of time it's been stood, My own fault i supose for just letting Ryan do the job or not at his own speed in stead of going on at him to get it done. like I said it was back in 2004 i first took the car down there and not had a full summer season drive out of it yet. Prob spend about two years or more sat outside his work shop.

But i really want to say that this has Nothing to do with the new own of Z-tech who has helped out in getting my car back to almost lol an on the road state.

Doesn't help you, but it's good Ryan has cleared off. You're one of many people that had really poor experiences with them. Let's hope the new guys are more responsible. Seems as if they are.

 

Shame they are so badly corroded. You could have gotten sections replaced but if they are gone from end to end, it probably isn't worth it.

My Z failed on brake lines and I had to have them replaced. The brake lines cost less than £50 but the labour cost the most. It all cost about £600. I think part of that may have been the mechanic not knowing his way round the Z that well as I told him he needed to drop the subframe for easier access.

So about £1000 to sort it out then. Any body got any ideas, could flexi braided hose be used for the hard to get too areas other than striping it all off and just use the solid pipe for the length of the car ??,....

 

 

Where I work there is a race team nearby, TCR http://www.totalcontrolracing.com/

 

When they have a new car in to race prep the first thing that goes is the factory hard brake lines and replaced with braided from master cylinder to wheel cylinders ;)

 

So it can't be that bad can it :)

You will get brake lines made up at just about any garage for a fraction of the cost of Nissan ones. Its just standard brake pipe that most motor factors sell at a guess about £20 a roll, you will need new end but they are relatively cheap.

 

Biggest hassle will be getting someone to do them at a decent price, you need to lower the rear subframe about 5 inches to get access and that will put a lot of places off, or they will use that to up the price of the job.

 

It aint the best of jobs but can be done without removing the subframe so dont let garages tell you different.

 

I done most of mine at the front of the house a couple of years ago it took me a couple of days, but i wasnt rushing it. a garage should do it far quicker with all their quipment at hand.

thanks for the replies.

I've just come off the phone to Chris, He rung me to let me know what was going on and one of his mechanic's specialises in hydrolic's etc and we hope that i can go down there to do most of the work under his watch full eye :bow:

As i've said before. I can not fault chris and his team and he has always kept me informed of the progress on my car since taking over the business. I know this was afew months ago and most would of wanted there car doing straight away, but He didn't have to take on the re-build that the new :rolleyes: engine needed so i felt it was by no means fair to be saying i want it doing now if you know what in mean, I even told him to do other paying jobs before mine as he was doing it under the old Z-tech warranty at no cost to me. :bow:

indeed... the stainless braided flexible hoses that we use operate @ pressures in excess of 3000psi... all you need is some hose of a similar spec to goodridge hoses and itll be all good :)

 

True but pressure alone isn't the whole story. If that pressure builds slowly and is maintained then it's different if there is normally no pressure and it needs to build very quickly. The first example can tolerate some initial line expansion, the second less so.

 

Anyway, the info from TCR suggests that it is practical. Obviously the lines will be a heap more expensive than £20 worth of tubing, but they'll be much easier/quicker to fit and won't rot in the future.

Anyway, the info from TCR suggests that it is practical. Obviously the lines will be a heap more expensive than £20 worth of tubing, but they'll be much easier/quicker to fit and won't rot in the future.

 

The hoses wont really be any easier or quicker to fit, in fact they may require additional work modifying the securing brackets to suit.

As for corrosion the pipe purchased from motor factors is generaly copper or even better kunifer.