And here it is also without racing gas and NOS at 1.46bar

 

Its not that but if someone came on here saying he had some steel internal turbos on a skyline and getting 600 bhp i would say the same....sorry but no chance!!

 

Also 600 bhp in a skyline is common so not so much as a raised eyebrow!

 

Fair enough, but why I wonder is it common in the RB26 community to reach these high figures, it because they have, on average, more money to spend then us Z guys? And most of us are happy with light to moderate power modifications before we draw the line? I suspect this is close to the truth.

 

I for one am inclined to believe this chap, but have an open mind, and accept that it is possible the dyno graph is showing estimated flywheel horsepower. Is it not also possible that he has an NA diff which would provide much more power at a given speed.

 

NitroPow - can you confirm that figure is Rear Wheel horsepower, or is it estimated flywheel power, and tell us whether you have any drive train modifications or not?

They do spend ALOT more money than the average zed owner but again the younger element is creeping into the skyline boards and they are falling in price but there alot easier to work on and hence theres alot more parts

Fair enough, but why I wonder is it common in the RB26 community to reach these high figures, it because they have, on average, more money to spend then us Z guys? And most of us are happy with light to moderate power modifications before we draw the line? I suspect this is close to the truth.

 

I for one am inclined to believe this chap, but have an open mind, and accept that it is possible the dyno graph is showing estimated flywheel horsepower. Is it not also possible that he has an NA diff which would provide much more power at a given speed.

 

NitroPow - can you confirm that figure is Rear Wheel horsepower, or is it estimated flywheel power, and tell us whether you have any drive train modifications or not?

 

To put it simple 16G's can NOT handle anywhere near almost 900 hp ATF so ffs people stop looking for arguments, we're dealing with facts not fairytales

The NOS wet kit introduces yet more fuel besides the 850cc injectors and NOS will drastically reduce intake temp so I see no reason why this setup couldn't produce this kind of power at the fly and still be reliable. I spoke with Trevor at Wizards of NOS for some time about NOS setups and learnt a lot. Decided against it in the end because a mate of mine emptied his bottle after a few days and at £40 a refill, I decided it was too expensive and a pain in the ass keep refilling the bottle!

hmmmmmm

 

will let you into a little secret a turbo flows air!! depending on the size of housing etc depends on how much air it can flow and thus how much power it can produce

 

BUT

 

once you max out the air flow it will not make anymore power so if a turbo can produce say 300 bhp then in a perfect setup thats how much it can flow...no more!!

 

The 16g's simply will not flow enough air to produce that type of power no matter if your in alaska 3 miles below sea level with a cocktail with a nice umbrella in it??!!

this thread make me laugh. I read the talk about wanting some big power zeds out there to show people the car. If this guy is producing this power (at the crank or the wheel) it is only to the good of people driving a zed, if he isnt, then he is only kidding himself. But why shoot him down? it is unlikely that it can be proven either way and, as said, all dynos read different with different characteristics. Well done mate, if it is genuine.

 

ditto.

The NOS wet kit introduces yet more fuel besides the 850cc injectors and NOS will drastically reduce intake temp so I see no reason why this setup couldn't produce this kind of power at the fly and still be reliable. I spoke with Trevor at Wizards of NOS for some time about NOS setups and learnt a lot. Decided against it in the end because a mate of mine emptied his bottle after a few days and at £40 a refill, I decided it was too expensive and a pain in the ass keep refilling the bottle!

 

£40 a refill?!? That's a bargain compared with filling the fuel tank at the same interval! :rofl:

 

Mind you, I guess the one-off costs of NOS are £££££ so you need to be somewhat minted or at least not really care where your next meal is coming from.

well done mate :) don't see what the fuss is about myself!

Just as a matter of interest was the car strapped down ??? i just didnt see any attached in the pics ???

The figures that you see is Rear Wheel Horse Power. 688rwhp that makes us around 825hp at the flywheel. But again that power is with NOS.

Without the NOS and 98 octane fuel at 1.49 it did 608rwhp which makes us 730hp and not 900 like somebody else mentioned.

 

As for statement that the TD-05 turbo beeing able to produce that kind of power let me ask you this.

How a turbo's power is rated? At what boost levels it should produce its power? On how many cylinders? Under what conditions?

HKS rates its turbos but they mention nowhere if its average,max or min. They mention nowhere at what Boost levels and they mention nowhere on how many cylinders and on what engine.

 

Do put it otherwise. If you take a T-72 and you put it on a 4-cylinder engine and you put a T-72 on a 6- or 8-cylinder engine will it produce the same power?

The figures that you see is Rear Wheel Horse Power. 688rwhp that makes us around 825hp at the flywheel. But again that power is with NOS.

Without the NOS and 98 octane fuel at 1.49 it did 608rwhp which makes us 730hp and not 900 like somebody else mentioned.

 

As for statement that the TD-05 turbo beeing able to produce that kind of power let me ask you this.

How a turbo's power is rated? At what boost levels it should produce its power? On how many cylinders? Under what conditions?

HKS rates its turbos but they mention nowhere if its average,max or min. They mention nowhere at what Boost levels and they mention nowhere on how many cylinders and on what engine.

 

Do put it otherwise. If you take a T-72 and you put it on a 4-cylinder engine and you put a T-72 on a 6- or 8-cylinder engine will it produce the same power?

 

You are so thick!!

 

Go get a book on turbos and how they work!!

 

The 16g turbos are rated to about 300 each to techincally they can produce 600 bhp between them but you will never get that on the 300 because there designed for a single set up ie a 2 ltr engine boosting 1 turbo so the zed engine is basically 2 x 1.5 ltr engines driving a turbo each so its never going to make as much bhp as there rated for!!

 

Now if you had said 550bhp then i might have believed you as that on a zed engine is running them to their limits

You are so thick!!

 

Go get a book on turbos and how they work!!

 

The 16g turbos are rated to about 300 each to techincally they can produce 600 bhp between them but you will never get that on the 300 because there designed for a single set up ie a 2 ltr engine boosting 1 turbo so the zed engine is basically 2 x 1.5 ltr engines driving a turbo each so its never going to make as much bhp as there rated for!!

 

Now if you had said 550bhp then i might have believed you as that on a zed engine is running them to their limits

 

I am asking you again. Where did you read that the TD-05 16G's are rated 300hp each and i want to know how did they rated it? Which engine, under what boost....Where is it written?

You are so thick!!

 

Go get a book on turbos and how they work!!

 

The 16g turbos are rated to about 300 each to techincally they can produce 600 bhp between them but you will never get that on the 300 because there designed for a single set up ie a 2 ltr engine boosting 1 turbo so the zed engine is basically 2 x 1.5 ltr engines driving a turbo each so its never going to make as much bhp as there rated for!!

 

Now if you had said 550bhp then i might have believed you as that on a zed engine is running them to their limits

 

I'm sorry Kirbz, but your statement condradicts your previous statement about turbos flowing air. That's all they do.

 

Remember, turbos do not stop flowing any more air when they're pushed, they just become less efficient, and would require a lot more exhaust pressure to flow more at the compressor wheel. Activating the NOS will do just that - increase the exhaust pressure a lot.

I'm sorry Kirbz, but your statement condradicts your previous statement about turbos flowing air. That's all they do.

 

Remember, turbos do not stop flowing any more air when they're pushed, they just become less efficient, and would require a lot more exhaust pressure to flow more at the compressor wheel. Activating the NOS will do just that - increase the exhaust pressure a lot.

 

there is a limit tho - you can only push so much air through a given space!! & once they go past their max they will loose power not create it!

I'm sorry Kirbz, but your statement condradicts your previous statement about turbos flowing air. That's all they do.

 

Remember, turbos do not stop flowing any more air when they're pushed, they just become less efficient, and would require a lot more exhaust pressure to flow more at the compressor wheel. Activating the NOS will do just that - increase the exhaust pressure a lot.

 

it can increase the exhaust pressure all it wants, but as soon as you consider thermodynamic laws you'll realise you're pissing in the wind! So you've got all this exhaust pressure supplying air, problem being it exits so hot it's useless. Unfortunately I'm at work but I reckon this thread is set to be one of the longest ever!!

 

Rich

Next thing is he will be saying it does 205MPH :rofl: :x:

there is a limit tho - you can only push so much air through a given space!! & once they go past their max they will loose power not create it!

 

In that i agree. There is a limit on every turbo and if you exceed that limit the turbo starts producing very hot air which is bad for the engine. But the limit of every turbo differs from car to car due to the fact that we dont use the same mods.

 

When a company rates its turbos -say 350hp- this doesnt mean that when you put that turbo on the car, the car cannot make more than 350hp. Thats not the case.

Turbo ratings its just for turbos. Now if you have supporting mods (larger intercoolers, radiators, intakes exhaust etc etc) together with the turbo you can get more hp.

 

Our engines are more strong that most people can ever imagine. At i least i proved that to myself. With the right mods and tuning you can get big horsepower.

it can increase the exhaust pressure all it wants, but as soon as you consider thermodynamic laws you'll realise you're pissing in the wind! So you've got all this exhaust pressure supplying air, problem being it exits so hot it's useless. Unfortunately I'm at work but I reckon this thread is set to be one of the longest ever!!

 

Rich

 

Here,Here. I havn't the time to read the whole thread but I agree with Rich and Kirbz. You can only flow so much air before it gets to hot through friction of the flow. Matching turbos to an engine system is more than finding the biggest tubs out there. You have to look at all the factors and bigger isn't always better, and you can't just up the boost or whatever to make bigger hp. Fair do's for the bloke for having a nice car but its just not likely IMO. Excuse my quick response without reading the full threads Nitro.

Just had a look at the pics on the website. Looks amazing under the bonnet. Still can't take the figures I'm afraid but nice motor.

how much are these TD0516G THEN FITTED AND WHERE please?

how much are these TD0516G THEN FITTED AND WHERE please?

 

You'll be pleased to know that GReddy have just put the price of the kit up by $2000 :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant:

Agree with you Pete, I really hope NitroPow is genuinely producing said power in his Z..... Eggs on faces springs to mind :)

 

Why is it when somebody gets 600bhp out of a Skyline the figures are never disputed but when somebody does the same in a Z - it's a load of BS??

 

Just my 2p

 

I agree mate, I saw some Z's that had had 15-30 odd K spent on them at the SE rolling road day and they did sh1te. DaveW ran his car with a boost controller, zorst and intake and he did the best on the day! Something like 340BHP at the wheels or maybe more I can't quite remember but I know he was up there in the top three.

 

Then I recall the yellow Z with forged pistons, big turbo's and all the tuning trimmings being brought in and after 3 runs it was still not doing any big BHP figures. In fact it was embarressing TBH considering the way it looked and what was expected of it.

 

Go figure!

 

Well done Nitro, I know that you and your Bro I think have done some impressive tuning over there in Cyprus.

 

Maybe some of the newer members of this site should go do a search to see what these guys have achieved in the past with their Z's before telling them that they're talking BS! ;)

Well done Nitro some very impressive power figures you have there. They will be differant from dyno to dyno but you will still have a big power readout. Just ignore the doubters there only jealous. :)

I agree mate, I saw some Z's that had had 15-30 odd K spent on them at the SE rolling road day and they did sh1te. DaveW ran his car with a boost controller, zorst and intake and he did the best on the day! Something like 340BHP at the wheels or maybe more I can't quite remember but I know he was up there in the top three.

 

Then I recall the yellow Z with forged pistons, big turbo's and all the tuning trimmings being brought in and after 3 runs it was still not doing any big BHP figures. In fact it was embarressing TBH considering the way it looked and what was expected of it.

 

Go figure!

 

Well done Nitro, I know that you and your Bro I think have done some impressive tuning over there in Cyprus.

 

Maybe some of the newer members of this site should go do a search to see what these guys have achieved in the past with their Z's before telling them that they're talking BS! ;)

 

Here, Here. I have to say I have been following his progress for some a few years now and I cant see why he would fabricate these figures?? Maybe the dyno is out, maybe it isnt, put a standard car on it and find out..but either way, well done.. :)

After looking at the web sites i dont think they would be making this up. fair bloody play mate.... awsome looking car! mine is running 380bhp and it scares me some times! would be interesting to see what power you can take it to!