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NA to TT conversion or Auto to manual + rear end conversion?

I have 2 Zeds that are 2+2 and are below fair condition (but not rotten), one's an 'auto TT' which is driving 100% and the other a 'manual NA' with a broken timing belt, both donor cars are to make into cheap drift car (project for my midlife crisis lol).

I was planning on taking the manual conversion kit and rear sub frame from the NA and put them in the TT, because there's a file of history with the Auto TT, incase i ever want to sell it. There's no history or tax book with the NA, i bought the NA cheap for the manual kit and rear sub frame.

These last couple of months i done a lot of research on the amount of work that's required to swap-over everything under both cars from the flywheels right back to the rear wheels. I'm now thinking it might be easier to do the TT conversion on the NA.

Before i waste my time doing any research on a TT conversion i'd like to ask you guys what you think?

Also, i don't know whether to use a TT flywheel and clutch kit or a NA stage 3 clutch kit?

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unless the NA is in much, much better condition I wouldnt waste time trying to convert it to a TT, as a LOT of work is involved. (it's not just the engine you will have to swap)

 

> Also, i don't know whether to use a TT flywheel and clutch kit or a NA stage 3 clutch kit?

 

both will work, but it also depend on the amount of power you want.

There are much stronger clutches available for TT's.

As you mention you want to make it a drift car, so it may be worth investing in a TT flywheel/clutch combo

When using a TT flywheel/clutch with a NA gearbox you may need to grind some material from the inside of the bell housing, but this is not always needed...you will need to use spacers on the starter though.

heck no .. you have about 3 days of work to swap over everything from the NA to TT ... the rear end alone is about 4hrs job and so easy ...

the manual side of things little more tricky but still not that of a hard job really

 

as one way or another u gonna have to take both boxs off to do a swap ... just not an engine and all the pipe work loom/ecus/fuel pump ... and so on

 

if you need any more help or info drop me a line i be more than welcome to help guide you on the phone ( 07794015646 )

 

 

Mark

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unless the NA is in much, much better condition I wouldnt waste time trying to convert it to a TT, as a LOT of work is involved. (it's not just the engine you will have to swap)

 

> Also, i don't know whether to use a TT flywheel and clutch kit or a NA stage 3 clutch kit?

 

both will work, but it also depend on the amount of power you want.

There are much stronger clutches available for TT's.

As you mention you want to make it a drift car, so it may be worth investing in a TT flywheel/clutch combo

When using a TT flywheel/clutch with a NA gearbox you may need to grind some material from the inside of the bell housing, but this is not always needed...you will need to use spacers on the starter though.

Thanks mate, no the NA is around the same condition, neither cars are oil paintings. Yeah, i was thinking toward a TT flywheel/clutch combo

Keeping and running a drift car can turn into a real money pit if i'm not careful, so i'm not planning on putting too much cash into the HP, i'll go as far as boost controller, intercooler + oil cooler, air intake and remap, i have a SS exhaust system for it. L/W pulleys and flywheel, BB turbos, forged pistons ect. will have to wait until some relative i don't know about dies and leaves me a bucket load of cash :)

 

 

heck no .. you have about 3 days of work to swap over everything from the NA to TT ... the rear end alone is about 4hrs job and so easy ...

the manual side of things little more tricky but still not that of a hard job really

 

as one way or another u gonna have to take both boxs off to do a swap ... just not an engine and all the pipe work loom/ecus/fuel pump ... and so on

 

if you need any more help or info drop me a line i be more than welcome to help guide you on the phone ( 07794015646 )

 

 

Mark

Thanks Mark, sounds like a no brainer then.

I was just thinking, rather than spending 90% of the time under the car doing the drive trains, i could spend 90% of the time bent over the engine doing a TT swap.

When i'm finished with doing either swap, only one car needs an engine, but both cars need to have a rolling shells in order to move them about after the swap is done.

To be honest, i'd rather bolt stuff together rather than do electrical work, although i can't really go wrong with the wiring because i have another manual TT to compare everything to.

I'm taking your comments on board but I still don't know what to do.

I'm in no rush, i don't need the drift car finished until spring time.

heck no .. you have about 3 days of work to swap over everything from the NA to TT ... the rear end alone is about 4hrs job and so easy ...

the manual side of things little more tricky but still not that of a hard job really

 

as one way or another u gonna have to take both boxs off to do a swap ... just not an engine and all the pipe work loom/ecus/fuel pump ... and so on

 

if you need any more help or info drop me a line i be more than welcome to help guide you on the phone ( 07794015646 )

 

 

Mark

 

your very kind mark you helped me over the fone every time I rung you when doing my gearbox swop

top bloke :thumbup1:

going to have your work cut out for yourself there fitcy. But at least you have lots of bits to choose from. best of luck

As mark said it's genuinely not that bad, you swapping literal cartridges. The engine has a lot of bits that hold it to the body fluids to be drained umpteen electrical connections. The rear subframe and gearbox are paradise in comparison.

 

Well done mark for club spirt.

It's not that bad. Mine went from a jap spec na auto to a nap shelled uk spec tt manual with na rear end and uk wiring not bad at all!!

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going to have your work cut out for yourself there fitcy. But at least you have lots of bits to choose from. best of luck

 

Thanks Derek, i still havent got round to starting this lol.

 

As mark said it's genuinely not that bad, you swapping literal cartridges. The engine has a lot of bits that hold it to the body fluids to be drained umpteen electrical connections. The rear subframe and gearbox are paradise in comparison.

 

Well done mark for club spirt.

Yeah, i've just went through a pile of photo i had taken of the car engines and i don't think i'd have the head for it, plus the 2 turbo engines have different bits and pieces, i'd probably mess things up good and proper.

 

It's not that bad. Mine went from a jap spec na auto to a nap shelled uk spec tt manual with na rear end and uk wiring not bad at all!!

Mate i've went over your comment a few times and i cant seem to understand what you mean, don't forget i'm Irish lol. Do you mean, you did a manual, TT and rear subframe conversion on your car?

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