Following on from the poly bush debate, I'm now not sure what suspension set up I should go for, I was going to poly bush, replace all the arms and stuff and get some coil-overs, but I don't want to trash the ride, I like my comfort nowadays. Do people have and suggestions of a good everyday road set up for the z??

So many parameters to consider. If you don't want much low then a set of Eibach springs will be your best bet with some KYB AGX shocks. The least crashy most comfy coilover would be the MiesterR street versions, can't remember what they're called now, Zeta maybe? A halfway house would be something like I have which are Tein S-Tech.

 

On the latter two you'll really need adjustable control arms and tension rods which have solid joints. If you go for the Eibach option, you can get away with having a shim kit (like the one made by 300 Degree) which means you can keep your stock control arms and tension rods. This will retain a more comfy ride.

Edited October 16, 201411 yr by Funkysi

I've got some Eibach's in the shed that I took off my car when I fitted the Meister Zeta-R (and the tensioner arms with polybushes because I fitted adjustable ones)

 

The rear ones had broken springs but the front ones are good and not very old and could be yours cheap

 

If you're interested........

Following on from the poly bush debate, I'm now not sure what suspension set up I should go for, I was going to poly bush, replace all the arms and stuff and get some coil-overs, but I don't want to trash the ride, I like my comfort nowadays. Do people have and suggestions of a good everyday road set up for the z??

 

Thing is, if you were going to replace your suspension with various adjustable arms, these come with pillow ball ends which replace the stock bushes. These are going to be even more unforgiving than polybushes as there is no bush, just a bearing.

This really comes down to personal choice, I'm going to polybush my car and stick with OEM springs and OEM spec shocks probably something like KYB GR-2 / Excel-G's. I feel the ride height is fine stock, especially when I consider my driveway and I don't want adjustable because I'd always faff with it!

Coilovers will always firm the ride up more, if you want comfort then it doubtful these are the right choice for you.

A reasonable compromise will probably come from the Eibach/KYB AGX shocks Si mentioned, lower slightly & firming up the ride a bit.

 

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Thanks for the replies, I really want coilovers so I can get it sitting just right, was hoping there was a way of keeping the comfort too, will just have to give up my comfort for the looks

Meister r zeta s with stock arms and stillen ARBs (my set up) totally alright. There is no unit of crashiness, no quantifiable way to put it, but it's smack bang central on a scale that goes from shopping trolley to hovercraft.

I agree with Tom, I was also sceptical about sacrificing nvh when upgrading to coilovers but they are actually equally if not more comfortable than my last setup!

Mine started out on stock suspension which was pretty tired so I replaced with kyb/Eibach, this is definately a good conbo but the ride height wasn't quite to my tastes leaving the front quite high. I then changed the springs to AVO chassis dynamics springs (which are weighted exactly the same as Simons tein S tech) paired with Stillen ARBs. I found this an awesome combo, it firmed up the ride perfectly without sacrificing comfort and was what I class "streetable".

However, once I put my 19's on the ride height needed to be altered again so I opted for coilover. After much deliberation and several conversations with the helpful chaps at MeisterR I invested in a set of Zeta S (which are the bushed version), but I specifically chose the spring rates designed for the SWB (for my LWB).

Whilst this will never give me a competition performance setup, it does give me a ride height I'm happy with and a comfort factor which is quite remarkable. Easily as soft as the last setup, if not softer. With the dampers set to max soft it is like a wobbly blancmange (almost too soft), but when I crank them up towards the harder scale, they become a setup that then far exceeds the standard shock/spring setup I had previously. The ultimate compromise if you're not looking for competition performance. I need to stiffen up my ARB to counter the roll so I can keep the dampers as soft as possible for street use.

It's also worth noting that there are options for adjustable arms without using solid bearings. Have a look on Z1's site at the SPC adjustable arms which retain a rubber bushing; pair those up with the Z1 FUCA street version and as a whole package, nvh is kept minimum.

You're not far from me so feel free to try before you buy, maybe another pub meet is needed (I'll remove all the bottles of tomato sauce :p ).

Just beware of any coilovers that have silly high spring rates, most of the systems were designed for people that want a track performance setup with unforgiving spring rates and virtually no travel. As soon as you install something like that, it's game over, no amount of retaining rubber bushes will help, in fact it will just accelerate the wear rate on them. I would highly recommend MeisterR as the components are of superb quality, the price is about the best there is (10% discount code for club members) and the technical help is spot on.

Live the other side of you now, but a bit thought away, near eastbourne, tho my Z is still in Cambridge at the mo, will probably go for meister r coil overs, but have seen some yellow ones being sold on one of the us sites with would go with my car better

Oh yes, I forgot you moved to the south coast.

Erm, your choosing the coilovers based on the colour?!

Oh yes, I forgot you moved to the south coast.

Erm, your choosing the coilovers based on the colour?!

 

Doesn't everyone? ?

Yellow coilovers? :hurl:

 

You know you can take the springs out to get them powdercoated.....

 

I'd do everything in my power to powdercoat as much of the aftermarket suspension components in black as I could! I repainted my KYB AGX shocks - they were yellow! VILE! lol

Edited October 17, 201411 yr by Funkysi

I repainted my KYB AGX shocks - they were yellow! VILE! lol

 

They come from the factory in red, so who painted them yellow?

Maybe they were red! I can't remember, I painted them 7 years ago! lol

Without being a complete hypocrite, as I've just stripped all the yuck orange paint of loads of driftworks gear and painted them black but no one will be seeing them tbh aside from you so the colour is pretty arbitrary. I will say though a lot of these parts the paint they apply isn't immensely durable, so a repaint with a quality paint will help.

coilovers suck dick every car I have had and been in with them the ride is always shitty if you plan on driving on the track 24/7 then great if not don't bother. I have done this on a few cars and every time I have taken them back off

I don't see how you can say that dan, our cars come with coilovers technically. It's down to the spring rate and dampner, the springs on many are very high. I'm build my new struts to suit my needs and tastes rather than to simply be stiff.

Edited October 17, 201411 yr by Stephen

you know that am saying by coilover vs stock damper,

you know that am saying by coilover vs stock damper,

 

I do yeah which is why it sort if doesn't make sense.