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I cant wait to get home from my next trip at work.im now going for three weeks again .who on here has a rev limmiter box of tricks?

SO they can make there car go rev rev pop pop bang flame bang.absolutly a must have toy.

Just brill.

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Cheers for the heads up Noel. Seems like Mr Cropley isn't interested in doing the right thing.

That's not good, but not exactly surprising, either.

The fake in question:

 

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The genuine article:

 

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FAKES have long looped wires with no heatshrink. Other differences include how far the LED protudes from the casing, the colour shades of the 3 adjusting knobs and the position of the screws on the underside.

 

also chaps i have sorced a chap that can get the proper ones who is in this country he will need a deposit or you can pay up front like me so done cheaper than ebay all in including pap ninty five pounds .now you got to love that thats a proper saving of 65quid and will take about a week to get to you.whos in.

Ill put his information up tonight then you can speak or just contact and pay so theres no messy group postage stuff going on just a bloody good deal.

im paying tonight.here is his emai and paypal address one of the same.

Richard cropley

Email and paypal is:cropshop76@gmail.com

 

Damn, he told you they were genuine. That's low.

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Thanks again Noel. I have been looking at a few so called genuine ones on eBay and some of the sellers even show the insides(circuit board s) saying that this is what a genuine one should look like. I opened up my one and the boards are identical, so these copies are pretty bloody good.

Rest assured it won't be going in the car

Thanks again Noel. I have been looking at a few so called genuine ones on eBay and some of the sellers even show the insides(circuit board s) saying that this is what a genuine one should look like. I opened up my one and the boards are identical, so these copies are pretty bloody good.

Rest assured it won't be going in the car

 

You mean eBay ID "semiconductor01"? Although the item is stated as being in USA, he's based in Poland. They are most likely snides too, and he's sold 522 of them. He sells Chinese Takata racing harnesses and A's Dev daughterboards (copied from H Dev). Been around for years, started up when I was on SXOC. The picture he's posted on his listing is of a FAKE item, which is why yours looks identical ;)

 

See here for confirmation of what the FAKE units look like on the inside: http://www.supraforums.com/forum/showthread.php?717306-BEE-R-rev-limiter-on-7MGTE-help

 

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A guy over at DW opened up a genuine item: http://www.driftworks.com/forum/engine-drivetrain/173036-fao-electronics-types-modifying-bee-r-not-fully-cut-when-above-specified-limit.html

 

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Blue switches: Fake

Black switches: Genuine (for now...)

 

There are different versions about, though, maybe Bee*R started less populated PCBs with an additional IC to cut down on assembly costs. The more I look into this, the more it seems that most people own Chinese replicas. The ones in this thread will have been bought from the cheapest supplier, even Chinese replicas have varying levels of quality. If you're buying Chinese, don't automatically go for the cheapest version. Some Chinese items even come from the same factory as the "official" items. Also, replicas sold at official prices no longer appear to be replicas, which is typically the way when a popular item is first copied. Then the price war starts, and soon it's obvious which ones are fake!

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Bloody hell, the cheek of the seller (semiconductor) saying that his are the real deal and putting a photo of the (fake) item on his page in order to get buyers into believing his are the genuine ones. Makes my blood boil Ffs.

 

Thanks for the extra photos Noel, hopefully this will stop anyone else being shafted by the unscrupulous barstewards out there! And potentially seriously damaging their engine.

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Is this bloke a forum member?

 

I don't think so mate, although he does appear on FB, Nismo and 300zx marketplace pages occasionally. " Lord-Rich Cropley"

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thanks for the heads up. so if these are replicas are cheap chinees ones like the tubs etc and other stuff does mean they just dont work of does it mean there just made of cheap components.

It means they aren't genuine ones, which is what people paid for.

 

They are nothing like turbos, which are solely mechanical components and can't be compared in any way, really. Everyone knows what a Chinese turbo looks like, and the possible issues that may arise.

 

The only reason this came to light is because one of the units from the source you posted in this thread didn't work. Neither did the Chinese turbo timer that was suplied by the same person, apparently (Apexi, I think, was only mentioned briefly). Faulty items were obviously removed and the Bee*Replica checked next to a genuine item.

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Cheers noel.theres going to be a really nice link going up if mine dosent work. And that will be just the start.i hope for his sake if its a peace of crap.

Nismo"

 

300zx UK Nismo Facebook page? That's the very worst 300zx page on Facebook there is. Just terrible! I removed myself from it.

From the "Bee*R Super Website" :lol:

 

An illegal copy of our product was found.

It include low quality parts and wrong CPU chip.

 

Illegal copy can't work correctly and malfunction occurs in the system

cause fire or fatal accident in use.

 

We added serial number to product since 7/1/2013.

Also modified appearance.

 

Please send photo to us,we check it and make judgement genuine product

or not.

To prevent copy products ,we can't open the exact details of modifications.

 

Whoa! "Fire or fatal accident". Is this the kind of "bang for your buck" people are looking for? :laugh:

 

I don't know what's worse, the Japanese calling it a "Limitter" in the first place (almost as bad as the HKS Fuel Cut Defencer it'sawhatnow?) or the Chinese ripping them off and not being able to get it right :chinese: :slap:

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Ive just had a message from him saying that his going to test one on his own car to see if it works and if not send moneys back.who sent theres back for him to try out.?

Opened mine up today, it's real, black potentiometers and identical circuit board

 

Mine came with instructions and the sticker.

 

And also didn't come for the seller in question.

 

Thanks for the pictures etc, would have taken it off had it been fake

Just junk it and any thoughts of getting the real one. Spend your money on something beneficial. :pint:

Ive just had a message from him saying that his going to test one on his own car to see if it works and if not send moneys back.who sent theres back for him to try out.?

 

And you trust this guy to be honest with his findings when you consider his honesty so far? Whether it works or not in a "quick test", you have been sold a product that isn't as described, get a refund!

and you trust this guy to be honest with his findings when you consider his honesty so far? Whether it works or not in a "quick test", you have been sold a product that isn't as described, get a refund!

 

^^this!

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