Have rules changed? Do you still have to have a donor vehicle Mot'd to be able to transfer number to another vehicle or put on retention?

 

In the past that's what you had to do to take the number of a barn find/rust bucket but think the rules may have changed but can't find it on DVLA site & no offices now of course!!

In short; yes!

 

The donor vehicle must have an MOT certificate - and usually a tax disc too. But if you have been the owner for some time and have only recently allowed the tax to expire, you can still apply to retain the reg number. MOT is still 100% required though....

 

And you are right in that everything goes to Swansea now that the local offices are closed - bit of a pain as the process takes longer; so much for the convenience of the digital age!

 

Richard:cool:

Tax disk isn't required Richard, but an MOT, absolutely! The MOT rule has been around for about 20 years!

To retain the registration number, the vehicle must be:

 

registered with DVLA

available for inspection

of a type that needs an MOT or heavy goods vehicle (HGV) test certificate

 

Pre-1960 vehicles need a valid MOT to retain a registration number.

 

The vehicle should also be taxed, unless:

 

there’s no break between the date the tax disc runs out and the start of the SORN

the tax disc has run out in the last 12 months

 

It doesn't actually say it needs an MOT unless it's pre65 only that it has to be of a type that requires an MOT. Also if the tax disc has run out less than 12 months doesn't need to be SORN but if over 12 months then as it suggests there can be no break between tax and SORN.

 

Call DVLA to confirm I don't think it needs an MOT myself :-)

Tax disk isn't required Richard, but an MOT, absolutely! The MOT rule has been around for about 20 years!

 

I did say "usually" a tax disc mate - as according to the V317 transfer form, there must be no break in the last disc expiry and current SORN declaration; and the tax must not have expired more than 12 months previous....

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/209585/V317_140313.pdf

 

I know because I have only just filled one in to transfer my reg number to a new car arriving soon.....:shifty:

 

Richard:wink:

That must be a new rule then! Thanks for the heads up. When I put the plate on my Z, it came off my other car that wasn't taxed.

 

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What are you getting?

That must be a new rule then! Thanks for the heads up. When I put the plate on my Z, it came off my other car that wasn't taxed.

 

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What are you getting?

 

All will be revealed soon.....:whistling:

To retain the registration number, the vehicle must be:

 

registered with DVLA

available for inspection

of a type that needs an MOT or heavy goods vehicle (HGV) test certificate

 

Pre-1960 vehicles need a valid MOT to retain a registration number.

 

The vehicle should also be taxed, unless:

 

there’s no break between the date the tax disc runs out and the start of the SORN

the tax disc has run out in the last 12 months

 

It doesn't actually say it needs an MOT unless it's pre65 only that it has to be of a type that requires an MOT. Also if the tax disc has run out less than 12 months doesn't need to be SORN but if over 12 months then as it suggests there can be no break between tax and SORN.

 

Call DVLA to confirm I don't think it needs an MOT myself :-)

 

That's what I thought- 'type that requires an MOT' how do you actually speak to DVLA- I always get shunted around recorded messages!!

You absolutely need an MOT I am afraid.

 

Here is another bit lifted from the poorly worded site.

 

How to transfer a registration number

Complete a V317 ‘application to transfer or retain a vehicle registration number’. If the number is being transferred to someone else’s vehicle, both registered keepers must complete the application.

 

You should also include:

 

the £80 transfer fee (cheque or postal order, payable to DVLA)

the registration certificate or the new keeper supplement with a completed V62 ‘application for a vehicle registration certificate V5C’ for each vehicle

an MOT test certificate (for cars and motorcycles over 3 years old, and heavy goods vehicles over 1 year old) for each vehicle

If the new keeper’s supplement has been stamped by a DVLA local office you’ll need to complete a V62 ‘application for a vehicle registration certificate V5C’ before you can apply.

 

Send your application to the DVLA.

 

DVLA

Swansea

SA99 1DS

No it definitely doesn't need to be taxed! If it's been SORNED for longer than a year then there cannot be a break between end of tax and SORN however if it's less than a year it's not a problem. So if your tax ran out six months ago and you haven't SORNED it don't worry it's fine. If your tax ran out 18 months ago and you didn't SORN it immediately then you've got a problem.

 

To retain a number the vehicle has to be:

 

of a type that needs an MOT or heavy goods vehicle (HGV) test certificate

 

Pre-1960 vehicles need a valid MOT to retain a registration number.

 

I've got three cars with private reg on now and have had dozens over the years but I have always have MOT etc. However based on the above wording if I didn't have an MOT I would 'give it a go'. Unfortunately it's not so easy to push the boundaries when you can't go face to face.

It doesn't say you need an MOT just that the vehicle must be of a type that needs one! it's either poorly worded or you don't actually need a current one- very confusing- need to speak to someone there but that seems nigh on impossible!

It is poorly worded.:sad:

It needs to be a type of vehicle that needs an MOT for you to be able to have a Number plate on it. BUT to transfer a plate from or too the vehicle it has to have a current MOT.

This is a right pain. What if your vehicle is of the type that requires and MOT and yet is currently SORNed ? I want to buy a plate and then hold it on retention until I need it, but this seems to be difficult ...

This is a right pain. What if your vehicle is of the type that requires and MOT and yet is currently SORNed ? I want to buy a plate and then hold it on retention until I need it, but this seems to be difficult ...

 

Not if it has a current MOT:wink:

Not if it has a current MOT:wink:

 

How many SORN'ed cars have a current MOT ? MOT & Tax tend to run out together.

How many SORN'ed cars have a current MOT ? MOT & Tax tend to run out together.

 

People who are selling their cars often run the tax low, I only have mine taxed for half a year.

How many SORN'ed cars have a current MOT ? MOT & Tax tend to run out together.

 

Do they ? mine dont.

 

But if this is the case and you wanted to put a plate on your car you can take it to be tested while sorned as long as you make an appointment and the garage has your reg number recorded in that appointment.

The reference "......... must be of a type that requires an MOT......" actually refers to the type of vehicle.

for example, I have an old site dumper which is road registered but is MOT exempt, like a tractor or JCB

these vehicles are not of the type which require an MOT and therefore the reg number cannot be transferred

from them under any circumstance.

 

in all instances if the vehicle normally requires an MOT, it must have one at transfer time

The reference "......... must be of a type that requires an MOT......" actually refers to the type of vehicle.

for example, I have an old site dumper which is road registered but is MOT exempt, like a tractor or JCB

these vehicles are not of the type which require an MOT and therefore the reg number cannot be transferred

from them under any circumstance.

 

in all instances if the vehicle normally requires an MOT, it must have one at transfer time

 

UPDATE UPDATE UPDATE

 

I have recently discovered a slight change or difference re procedure here-

 

https://www.gov.uk/keep-registration-number

 

No need for an MOT if car has been sorned for last 5 years with no gaps-they can request to inspect the donor vehicle- no mention of the criteria though.

 

I intend to test this shortly by transfering from a Saab 900s which I have owned for 9 years but has been sorned since 1/12/2011