Zed parts prices

[ZX-TT]

Not trying to start an arguement or anything this is a genuine thread looking for a good discussion.

 

Seems over the last 12 months that zed parts prices, or what people expect to pay for something has plumited!! Is it just me or are other people finding this.

 

To give an example (and im not knocking anyone or the offers ive had) but for instance the set of 8pot k-sport brakes that im selling, in excellent condition with next to new disks and pads, these retail new at £799, now i would have expected £600-£650 to be a fair price, but the offers ive had are around the £400 mark. Am i really that far out now or have parts prices really dropped so much so quickly??

 

like i say not a sour grapes thread or anything like that, just want other peoples views

 

thanks Craig

[Pablito]

I dunno mate, to be honest as a rule of thumb i wouldn't want to pay any more about half retail for decent 2nd hand. Less depending on condition.... Think about wheels... massive drop in price when 2nd hand

[hellraiser]

everyone is struggling with cash, people want to still keep there cars running/upgrading so are being more bolshy to save a few quid.

 

if you can afford to wait you will probably get your money but people are relying on you wanting/needing the cash so will offer a low price..

 

 

its all wheeler dealers now.

[ZX-TT]

fair point guys, im the same i guess, just wondered what other peoples thoughts were!

[Baz]

I think 'I wish I could afford to spend £600 on some brakes' :lol:

[KJZ32]

I find that some of the parts that come up for sale are just what you want, but, a bit more than you have available at that time.

So I tend to offer what I can afford then, and hope for the best. if its not enough, you have to wait till you've got enough and by then they are usually gone.

How many posts have you seen where the buyer asks if they could pay at the end of the month rather than lose the item. Its not to be mean or nasty, or that the item isnt worth what your asking, but money is tight for alot of people. Just my opinion as i see it.

[davezx]

Have to agree with the comments made here.

think in times where money is tight and the fact that nowadays you can buy a full working zx for less than £1500 (granted it wont be the best). To think that a second hand set of brakes, albeit a good upgraded set is nearly half the price of a complete car kinda makes things hard to sell unfortunatley.

[Gonzo12c]

To quote actual psychology the seller will always perceive that his goods are worth more and the buyer will perceive them to be worth less its a negotiation tactic that's why free samples are given and stuff. I don't think prices have plumeted and I have a good general feel for the market. I have k sports on my black shorty and I said to someone jokingly as he was after them that I would sell them for 500 but they add more value to the car being oh there so I won't sell them. Just some facts to think about plus in the case of the calipers you do not know how old the calipers are which put me off at that price

 

Marty

[Yowser]

There has definatly been a change in the market of Z parts over recent years. All to be expected though with an influx of cheap chinese parts and a changing ownership profile as the prices of Z's drop.

 

Prices of used parts have dropped from breakers, and so has how much people are willing to pay for new parts. In the meantime oem part prices continue to rise, and the cost of importing parts from the U.S is more than it used to be a couple of years back.

 

But Its a sad day when you see people asking for chinese tack in the wanted sections becuase they consider it to be too expensive on ebay.

[Guest Mid-wales-zx]

There has definatly been a change in the market of Z parts over recent years. All to be expected though with an influx of cheap chinese parts and a changing ownership profile as the prices of Z's drop.

 

Prices of used parts have dropped from breakers, and so has how much people are willing to pay for new parts. In the meantime oem part prices continue to rise, and the cost of importing parts from the U.S is more than it used to be a couple of years back.

 

But Its a sad day when you see people asking for chinese tack in the wanted sections becuase they consider it to be too expensive on ebay.

 

Good point, when the average cost of an average z is approx 2000 grand (my opinion) i cant see too many people wanting to spend well over a qurter of the car's value on one item.

 

However you do get what you pay for, i bought a pair of discs off ebay last year because mine are warped, but these cheapo ones are actually worse, there not warped but the breakfade starts almost straight away and then they start making a god awfull droning sound when breaking hard! ive put a set of old secondhand ones on to check it was them and they worked great! no fade (unless you really pushed them) and no noise! Just a mot failure due to pitting!

 

Annnyway, i would love to be able to afford the brakes but im affraid like many on this forum, its a hard time and we cant justify spending 600 pounds on one item at this time.

[Murmur]

I for one am glad we do not enjoy the "Scene Tax" that say... Volkswagen owners enjoy.

[Guest Mid-wales-zx]

I for one am glad we do not enjoy the "Scene Tax" that say... Volkswagen owners enjoy.

 

ei? sorry i dont follow?

[JeffTT]

Not trying to start an arguement or anything this is a genuine thread looking for a good discussion.

Seems over the last 12 months that zed parts prices, or what people expect to pay for something has plumited!! Is it just me or are other people finding this.

Craig

 

Craig, as used parts trader I can see what you mean and as its part of my lively hood its also of great importance to me.

 

Several years ago parts from 300zx breakers were few and far between, things like leather seats for instance could be sold for £500 + but with time more zeds have ended up in breakers yards not even specialist breakers such as us, slowly the market changed with the supply and demand balance tipping to the now abundance of used standard parts.Added to this the amount of non proffesional breakers, owners that have given up and e-bay has resulted in low prices across the board now.

 

We have had to move with these times to stay profitable and still give a good parts service but I do know how frustrating it can look when you have some top quality parts that unfortunately are to good to sell for the current expentant value.

 

Typical telephone conversation

 

Hello do you have any air flow meters "kicking around"

 

We do have them but try not to kick them around!

 

Are you sure you need one have you done any checks?

 

Yes defo need one, the 5k I have poughed into this zed + the 4k purchase cost means I am 9K in and cannot use it to go to work or see my sick aunt in hospital, how much are they.

 

Ok they are £90 + vat

 

Oh? erm I will let you know

 

Now thats frustrating!:lol:

 

Still love zeds to bits though

 

 

Jeff TT

[Guest HollowPoint]

Yeah as a buyer and someone who was nearly an owner who "gave up", I had to take a good hard look at what was going on in the market. The facts were upsetting, I could have broken my Z and if I got what the parts were worth, brought in £2 - £3K, but parts weren't selling for what they are worth, because people a) don't want to pay full price for them and b) so many others are breaking their Z's that there was/is too much competition for parts.

 

Some parts obviously go straight out the door, scuttle panels, brakes (Standard or slightly uprated) seem to go well and things like turbos, exhausts, etc. All seem to be well sought after. They're parts that fail and need to be replaced, water pumps, PS Pumps etc. Bits you just have to buy, I would have thought that would apply to MAFs as well, but maybe not judging by this thread.

 

As a buyer, I look for people I can trust for my second hand parts, I go with those who respond quickly and articulately, and those I can tell have provided lots of quality parts to others in the past. ZXTT, Baz and Mikey are three examples, of the people I have chosen to buy parts from, because I trust them. On the other hand, I have also looked around at the prices first and provided a seller isn't someone that I simply don't trust, if the part is cheaper, I buy it from them.

 

I agree with what others have said in this thread, in the next year or two I think the market will change again in the opposite direction, the car is truly becoming a classic now, because of depleted numbers actually on the road, the breakers will all start disappearing and I see the car following the same trend as the Ford Capri has done, ten years ago I bought a running, MOT'd, Taxed, 2.8i V6 Ford Capri Special for £800 and I could get parts cheap as chips, even new Ashley exhausts and new parts from the Burtons catalogue were nice and affordable. I took a nostalgia trip the other week and considered buying another, WOW there was a difference in price, around £3K now for the same car, with no MOT and no Tax, but just about running with limited rust.

 

I know the guy who runs RetroFord, the biggest classic ford breaker in the country, basically he broke so many Capris because of rust problems, engine issues, suspension, steering etc. where the owner had simply given up but didn't have the time, resources or will to break the car themselves, and he dictated the price on the parts. Now, there are barely any Capris left on the road, his breakers yard is getting less and less full of Capris as well, so now, he still dictates the price on parts, and it's not cheap.

[vodkashots]

have a look in the breakers section, its supply and demand im afraid, we have 8 zeds currently being broken, mine, zerocooldels, mikeys,MarkyB's, Ck300z'ss, Baz, ADL's has just come up, and there may be more.

 

the parts i would of thought would of flown out the door. are taking the longest to sell due to the fact there is a abundance of them. the rest don't seem to sell due to people not really being able to afford them due to the current financial climate. SO prices have dropped to get parts shifted and make them appealing for purchase.

 

This intern lowers peoples expectations on what to buy parts for once they then become scarce. how many times have you seen a post go up and someone has then commented that "i could of got that a lot cheaper from blah blah blah" with out any thought on why it was so cheap to start with.

[Berrica]

Personally for me it would have to be a better saving or I would rather pay the extra £150for new warranted products, I am often surprised how close things are offered to the original new price as these products will no longer have any warranty or guarantee! Just because they are still in the box or hardly used make no difference they are second hand, I am also surprised to see people buying and selling second hand brake products when they are such a critical component!

[300ZX_666]

Not trying to start an arguement or anything this is a genuine thread looking for a good discussion.

 

Seems over the last 12 months that zed parts prices, or what people expect to pay for something has plumited!! Is it just me or are other people finding this.

 

To give an example (and im not knocking anyone or the offers ive had) but for instance the set of 8pot k-sport brakes that im selling, in excellent condition with next to new disks and pads, these retail new at £799, now i would have expected £600-£650 to be a fair price, but the offers ive had are around the £400 mark. Am i really that far out now or have parts prices really dropped so much so quickly??

 

like i say not a sour grapes thread or anything like that, just want other peoples views

 

thanks Craig

 

I don't think the present climate is helping, people just do not want to part with money at the moment.

 

I think the half retail price for good second hand is a good point.

[zerocooldel]

iv got my zed listed on ebay as breaking get quite a few emails from people asking for parts i always give them prices that are slightly cheaper than any other price listed for parts on ebay but they still want it cheaper. id rather just hold onto the things as spares for my new one than sell them for pennies

[save-my-arse]

I have been in business for many, many years now and totally confer with Jeff, times are hard and about to get harder, if the price is not right the business / hobby will fail very quickly. It is all about supply and demand and offering a good service with decent back up is paramount to a successful business.

[Smithy]

TBH and IMO the advert was naff and sorry but over priced too.

 

You couldn't say how old the rest of kit was, you didn't mention the steel brackets and fixing kit and new lines that come with a new kit, nor did you picture them if they included. You also didn't mention anything about pads and with discs and calipers being quite some weight, around an extra 40 quid for insured postage perhaps on top of your hopeful 600 odd quid!

 

As these are budget kits and retail around the high end of 700 quid complete, some have been purchased in the past years cheaper, with special offers, group buys etc.

For me a more realistic price would have £575 delivered or nearest offer, if yer get 525-ish a bonus. They really should be offered around 55% of new price as they are second hand with little known history and no warranty.

 

Your not alone though, many ads there have crap or no pictures, poor description, no attempt to really "sell" the item to someone and sometimes crazy arsed prices.

 

Good luck though which ever you go with this and sorry if the above isn't what you'd like.

Smithy