I have one massive FMIC so there is very little room for the MAF and my Apexi filter. It is possible to mount the ‘T’ pipe out of the MAF in a way that it all fits but the filter then sits right behind the FMIC. Obviously the problem is that an intercooler is there too cool the pressurised air from the tubs but the warm air off the intercooler gets sucked into the turbos thus reducing the efficiency of the system.

 

I’m looking at mounting the filter where the stock intercooler was on the left hand side by running a pipe under the headlight – anyone ever done this?????

 

Edited April 3, 201114 yr by zed-racer

Sorry mate, cant answer your question. But you sig pic looks great, nice to see a zed on the speed trials at Brighton if im not wrong.............

Thanks, she is the fastest Zed there.......

This is what your after on z1's site :

 

Heres a link for them :

 

http://www.z1motorsports.com/product_info.php?products_id=65

is it bad/a problem to run an air filter with this setup, mine is exactly the same...

This is what your after on z1's site :

 

Thanks, this is along the right lines but I'm hoping for a cheaper solution. Maybe i'll just make one from parts off ebay.....

Edited April 3, 201114 yr by zed-racer

is it bad/a problem to run an air filter with this setup, mine is exactly the same...

 

Well, it works fine, it's just that I know that I'm sucking warm air in and that's not ideal. The whole point of the intercooler is to cool the boost down so it has greater density. This setup starts off with warm air so won't be as good as it could be.

so u mean the air intake is sucking in warm air basically?

so u mean the air intake is sucking in warm air basically?

 

Yes, colder the better!

damm never even realised, just assumed it was cold as its right at the front so pure cold air hits the intercooler, then the air filter behind, as i have an open 'mouth' front bumper..

Like i said, it works fine, I'm just fussy and want to move it but not sure how best to do this.......

why not hang a pipe down like the old viper ones? that worked well

Ok, how about this;

 

Out of the 'T' pipe -

 

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270727154909&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_1932wt_907

 

90 degree bend Connects to -

 

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290366971221&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_1522wt_907

 

length of hose and goes under the front left head light and comes out to a -

 

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280651012361&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_1932wt_907

 

45 degree with a 3" of off cut hose to join onto the MAF with filter connected.

 

All done for £88 ish. Just need some hose clips and to relocate/lengthen my MAF connector.

 

Anyone see any issue with this plan?

What intercooler is that?

I want a FMIC!

whats an fmic and a maf `

FMIC - Front mount intercooler

MAF- mass air flow meter/ air flow meter.

whats an fmic and a maf `

 

Front mount intercooler and Mass Air Flow sensor

oh i see, so what does the maf do? is that the thing that monitors how much air for the ecu

oh i see, so what does the maf do? is that the thing that monitors how much air for the ecu

Yup!

smithy

so i knew the answers to all my questions im just not hip with the terms lol

Ok, how about this;

 

Out of the 'T' pipe -

 

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270727154909&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_1932wt_907

 

90 degree bend Connects to -

 

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290366971221&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_1522wt_907

 

length of hose and goes under the front left head light and comes out to a -

 

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280651012361&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_1932wt_907

 

45 degree with a 3" of off cut hose to join onto the MAF with filter connected.

 

All done for £88 ish. Just need some hose clips and to relocate/lengthen my MAF connector.

 

Anyone see any issue with this plan?

 

The Doolz uses tight 180deg bends, they are then cut open and welded in the centre join to even out the airflow.

It's design took a great deal of effort to get right and a lot depends on this join being spot on.

 

Your using a 90 deg bend, then flexi hose to bend the rest which i would guess would kink, plus at just 2 ply would suck in and out like a heart beat.

 

Rest assured if it was as easy as doing what you plan, the cost and development that went into the doolz by Ash powers would have been wasted cos 100's of others would have done what your planning.

 

In theory it will work, but i seriously doubt it would do the job right or in fact anywhere close, but good luck.

smithy

could you not reajust the air filter so it sits infront of the intercooler

The Doolz uses tight 180deg bends, they are then cut open and welded in the centre join to even out the airflow.

It's design took a great deal of effort to get right and a lot depends on this join being spot on.

 

Your using a 90 deg bend, then flexi hose to bend the rest which i would guess would kink, plus at just 2 ply would suck in and out like a heart beat.

 

Rest assured if it was as easy as doing what you plan, the cost and development that went into the doolz by Ash powers would have been wasted cos 100's of others would have done what your planning.

 

In theory it will work, but i seriously doubt it would do the job right or in fact anywhere close, but good luck.

smithy

 

I intend to keep the stock 'T' piece so I only need a 90 degree bend to point me out to where I want to be. The silicone pipe will be more or less straight – going under the left head light - and has a wire on the inside to resist cavitation due to the vacuum created. Then it’s a tidy flick down 45 deg for the MAF and Filter.

I appreciate the work that has gone into the Doolz setup but I don’t need to run 2 filters (370BHP) and they are in the area behind the FMIC so also would not benefit from colder air.

I intend to keep the stock 'T' piece so I only need a 90 degree bend to point me out to where I want to be. The silicone pipe will be more or less straight – going under the left head light - and has a wire on the inside to resist cavitation due to the vacuum created. Then it’s a tidy flick down 45 deg for the MAF and Filter.

I appreciate the work that has gone into the Doolz setup but I don’t need to run 2 filters (370BHP) and they are in the area behind the FMIC so also would not benefit from colder air.

 

the dools repositions the air filter where the smic where. if i was you i would have a caht wityh my local exhaust fabricators and get them to bend a peice of stainles sto suit. then lengthen the maf connection to relocate it. or the other option is to seperate the front cavity. i know a few of the amarericans do this. using a vented nose panel taht is sectioned away from the fmic. i suppose you only need a sheet of something light witha hole in it. il draw you apicture cos im struggling to follow myself.

right this is what im thinking the red is teh modified pipework. im no expert theres proablly areason to nopt do this but hey. makes sense to me

Edited April 4, 201114 yr by Stephen

I was under the impresion that the standard Doolz keeps the filters behind the FMIC and you then need to buy an extention kit to extend the pipes to the SMIC position. This also requires a new ECU chip and all costs a heck of alot more then my £88 idea.