Hi,

 

I am after a list of Garages and engine builders who are capable of building a high spec 300zx.

 

I'm sure some may question why I am asking and what the score is with me and my car but i am not at libity to say at the moment. I will just say it is one big mess which needs action taking.

 

I really need to underline that this will be a very big spec 300zx and looking at running allot of power.

 

No dis-respect to any other garages but i need recomendation of garages/builders who are up to the job. Someone who would take on a project that has already been started and seeing it through to completion.

 

Ideally a garage with a full set of services, from building the engine to fitting and then mapping and running the car in. Also there are lots other bits that need doing as well as building the engine.

 

I have heard good things about Phil who used to work at C&S woods and understand he has done some big builds.

 

Any info and help would be greatfully recieved.

 

I am very very sad and disapointed that it has even come to a point that i have had to create this thread and think about other options. this whole experiance over the last year and so many months has turned my life upside down and got the better of me. has took allot out of me and cost me allot of money, stress and depression to say the least.

 

thanks as always :D

I've heard good things of Jimmer, Everybody who's used him has said that he is Excellant. No personal experiance though.

 

Might be worth also giving Jeff at Zedworld a call and Mr. F as I'm sure they will both know people capable of doing high power builds....

 

hth

 

Paul

i think you will struggle bud which i why i bought in an engine from the states and was putting it together myself.

 

i know phil in manchester has done a couple that i know of running medium power, not sure about mega power though.

 

most of the "big" tuners wont touch them

 

Mike

I've heard good things of Jimmer, Everybody who's used him has said that he is Excellant. No personal experiance though.

 

Might be worth also giving Jeff at Zedworld a call and Mr. F as I'm sure they will both know people capable of doing high power builds....

 

hth

 

Paul

 

This is what i was affraid of, i really dont want to sound dis-respectful to anyone. I have heard good things about Jimmer but the nature of the build and spec i think it would need to go to a garage instead of a one man band purely if anything was to go wrong or any come back. Plus what else needs doing like the mapping and other mods.

 

I spoke to Jeff a long time ago as the garage have it for such a long time. At the time Zedworld were very busy and wasnt interested in taking on such a big project which i totally understand. Looking forward though Jeff's workload at the time would of not been a issue seeing how long it's been now and Jeff had got it sorted in quarter the time.

 

Thanks.

i think your main issue is a proven track record of high power builds which with all due respect to all the people mentioned none of them have this and pretty much no one else either in this country

 

Mike

i think you will struggle bud which i why i bought in an engine from the states and was putting it together myself.

 

i know phil in manchester has done a couple that i know of running medium power, not sure about mega power though.

 

most of the "big" tuners wont touch them

 

Mike

 

That is interesting you say that.

 

Why is it such a struggle on the 300zx to get a garage to do the build? i have spoken to people in the race industry who say the garages are completly taking the piss which yes they are and that they could build the engine in a week however i say to them the 300zx is a very complicated and complex engine they reply a engine is a engine. I have spoken to several people who use to build race engine, one on the Lotus race team can't remember who the other was.

 

Also why wont big tuners touch them?

 

You can tune other cars upto the same power i want for half the price getting onto quarter the price, that shows itself there is something very complex about our cars.

I understand mate... I still think you should have a chat with Mike (Mr. F) though even if it's just to confirm something he does know a fair few people in the trade as it were and maybe able to point you in the right direction... could you not get an engine built in the States say and shipped over... I know there's an element of risk but I believe they have more big power builds than the UK (not sure though) I've got a Z1 shortblock in mine (previous owner bought it and had it fitted) and it seems good though not massive power!

409 atw at the moment.

Have you thought about Thor Racing?

 

Paul

That is interesting you say that.

 

Why is it such a struggle on the 300zx to get a garage to do the build? i have spoken to people in the race industry who say the garages are completly taking the piss which yes they are and that they could build the engine in a week however i say to them the 300zx is a very complicated and complex engine they reply a engine is a engine. I have spoken to several people who use to build race engine, one on the Lotus race team can't remember who the other was.

 

Also why wont big tuners touch them?

 

You can tune other cars upto the same power i want for half the price getting onto quarter the price, that shows itself there is something very complex about our cars.

 

its simple bud, yes there not the easiest car to work on, there are not many high performance parts available for the 300zx and in the early stages there were next to none hence why no one started to tune them and not many people have the long standing experience with them unlike say the skyline which was tuned from the early stages so more parts sere developed and garages started specialising in them ie abbey, RB Motorsports, GT ART etc

 

The only person i can think of who might look at one is TR Racing, rob there is very well respected and i know he gets involved with other stuff as well?

 

You are correct though, an engine is just an engine, ours just has more pipes and a couple of turbos attached but apart from that it still works like any other kind of engine

 

Good luck ;)

Mike

an engines is just an engine, but there are specifics to each that you would want to know. To advise a customer you would need to have experience of the limits and capabilities of an engine and its ancillaries and what modifications work best for this engine. As well as what parts are available and where to get them from. If a garage is not experienced with the VG30 then they wont have a lot of trade suppliers for VG parts either.

 

I dont believe that Big tuners are scared of the engine, or find it too complex or anything like that - its just that the 300zx is very rare compared to most other Performance cars, and its even rarer for owners to go for big engine builds. Garages are therefore not familiar with them and would rather stick to what they know. It takes a lot more time and effort, compared to working on an engine that they are experienced with.

Edited September 8, 200916 yr by Yowser

Might be worth talking to the guys who built slick pete's engine for him. They seem very thorough and not afraid to try new things.

 

Might be worth PMing him for their details

I have been in contact with TDI-PLC south. they have two garages but i would be looking at the one near London.

 

They seem very helpful and were recomended but so was the previous garage.

 

anyone got any experiance with them or know of their work?

Thanks for all the info so far.

I understand mate... I still think you should have a chat with Mike (Mr. F) though even if it's just to confirm something he does know a fair few people in the trade as it were and maybe able to point you in the right direction... could you not get an engine built in the States say and shipped over... I know there's an element of risk but I believe they have more big power builds than the UK (not sure though) I've got a Z1 shortblock in mine (previous owner bought it and had it fitted) and it seems good though not massive power!

409 atw at the moment.

Have you thought about Thor Racing?

 

Paul

 

At the time that would of been a very expensive option but now looking back it would been allot cheaper going for a built Z1 engine. Wish that was my original route.

 

Thor Racing isnt a option.

Thought that might be the case with Thor... just thought I'd ask... If you wanted I could pop to the TDI garage near london and have a look at their facilities if you wanted an opinion before visiting yourself... I will point out I am no expert but do understand the priciples of engine building so would be happy to have a look if you wanted and hopefully not look too stupid!!

 

Paul

Thought that might be the case with Thor... just thought I'd ask... If you wanted I could pop to the TDI garage near london and have a look at their facilities if you wanted an opinion before visiting yourself... I will point out I am no expert but do understand the priciples of engine building so would be happy to have a look if you wanted and hopefully not look too stupid!!

 

Paul

 

Really? what makes you say that about Thor?

 

 

That is a great gesture, I see how the next few days and convos go with the current garage before any action is taken.

 

Ideall they would finish off the car, but lie after lie and promise after promise is getting way out of control. May 2008 was a Year and 4 months ago. That is a very long time to have a car and it to be in the state it's in.

 

The bottom end is bare, no work there at all. the heads are done i think.

 

They keep telling me how sorry they are and they will get it sorted but i never see any more progress. Before i know it another month would of past.

 

I really cant believe how a company like them can treat someone like they have me.

 

They are stupid and its a really bad business move. My family are pushing me to take legal action, if i did that i would probably get a good compensation. Im getting very close to going down that route. I see it as they have one last chance to get it done if not and if they mess me about anymore we have two option. let it ride and will pursue legal action or to take my car away to another garage and also still take legal action.

Sorry... I've heard good things about Thor but having spoken to them in the past they don't seem to keen on the on working on 300's that's all... maybe wrong though as I'm sure someone here had a build by Thor...

 

Anyhow more than happy to have a quick nose if you want me to... as said I'm no expert and you may want JimmyTT or someone that knows more than me to have look but as said I understand the pricipals and know what a good workshop should look like!

 

Let us know how you get on...

 

Paul

Thanks for your help.

 

I will keep you posted.

Sorry... I've heard good things about Thor but having spoken to them in the past they don't seem to keen on the on working on 300's that's all... maybe wrong though as I'm sure someone here had a build by Thor...

 

Anyhow more than happy to have a quick nose if you want me to... as said I'm no expert and you may want JimmyTT or someone that knows more than me to have look but as said I understand the pricipals and know what a good workshop should look like!

 

Let us know how you get on...

 

Paul

 

Cj/ Bob genies was buiilt at Thor, from what I hear not to good either but I could be wrong:rolleyes:

Jimmer could build you an engine capable of stupid power. It's just a case of choosing the correct parts. You then need to take it somewhere to set the thing up as you'll certainly be wanting stand alone management.

Jimmer could build you an engine capable of stupid power. It's just a case of choosing the correct parts. You then need to take it somewhere to set the thing up as you'll certainly be wanting stand alone management.

 

i dont think its so much just build the engine its more when going down silly power route pretty much everything you do has to be custom made etc so its getting a garage on board which 1. can do this and 2. willing to do this

 

not saying jimmer cant do it ;)

 

Mike

Two people that i can think of is jimmer and thor racing

cmon jimmer... step up!

cmon jimmer... step up!

 

He is a very modest guy Joel, and tends to wait for people to ask for his services. The words being banded about here like 'big power' etc., means nothing if you don't also have a 'big wallet'. I think Jaffa needs to specify what power he is talking about, i.e., 500, 600, ......800 or even a 1000 bhp, if of course that is possible. Personally I think he would probably be better off importing a car direct from Japan already modded, if he could find one. And of course it is not just the engine that will need mods either so the costs will be even greater.

thor are not good, rouge motorsport may be an option. These guys have built 700 hp 2.0 MR2s. Worth a call any way, google them there easy to find.

thor are not good, rouge motorsport may be an option. These guys have built 700 hp 2.0 MR2s. Worth a call any way, google them there easy to find.

 

There's a guy up in edinburgh thats got a Rogue Motorsport sponsored Mr2. Was running around 550rwhp when he handed my rear end to me at crail.

 

After speaking to him, the car was going back to Rogue to have the engine built to closer to 900bhp (cant remembered if thats wheel or flywheel) IIRC.

 

Having said that though, arent Rogue an MR2 / GT4 specialist?

I already have all the parts and everything.

 

The car is at the garage with all the parts to hand and failing to carry on putting the engine together time after time.

 

Yes it has a standalone Engine Management system.

 

Believe me when i say the car is a very good spec.

 

Before the engine failed which prompted this build it was running 520bhp at the fly and this time round i am pushing for allot more power. The engine which popped was built at Scholar Engines in Norfolk actually could be Suffolk. The engine was a built engine with forged internals. It had only covered 2000 miles. Cost me allot of money as you could imagine.

 

Anyway contacted several garages, and i only considerd the best for the job. One of which i decided to take the car to. They stripped the old block found it to be a fault with the build E.g. Scholars Engines fault so affoid them with a barge pole!!! Then moving forwards i suppled another used lump. Which was then stripped by the new garage, I purchased all new internals and went the extra mile and changed allot of the rest of the spec e.g. turbos and stuff which were new 2000 miles ago on the engine that popped which were already decent parts.

 

Imported all my new parts from the States and Japan.

 

Mods were needed for fitment of new parts which have been done, engine stripped, cleaned and macined ready to go together. New parts have been weighed, balanced and lightened where needed. It's all waiting to be put together.

 

Once the engine is together and in there are a few other misc jobs that need doing.

 

Then it needs to be mapped which is currently a Aem EMS which may change but if it was built by the garage who has it if i move on then i will keep the AEM.

 

I know I am being very vague. I have to be at the moment for obvious reasons.

 

Once i am in a position to say may i will do.