Well after my epic fail of a track session at castle combe im now on a mission to improve my stopping power.

this is what happened to my discs whoopsy....

 

 

 

these are the puppies.....

:D

 

 

Now....where the hell do i start? do i fit some discs that i like then make the messurements to fit the calipers?

 

I was thinking to fit them on my discs i have at the mo then once i have them fitted buy the same discs but without the drilled holes and just slotted. But i have no idea what discs they are, il give z1 a call soon, maybe they can help. The only prob i had with them discs was the cracking, other than that the brakes always felt responsive and never had any fad even on the track.

 

obviosuly im going to have to clear the wheel spokes.

 

Anyone know of a good enginering shop who can messure and make brackets to fit these? they are brembos at the end of the day.

Edited April 28, 200916 yr by j1mmytt

and theres the argument against drilled discs! - isnt there a company that does propper conversion brackets for virtually all brakes

and theres the argument against drilled discs! - isnt there a company that does propper conversion brackets for virtually all brakes

 

u tell me? Thats the million dollar question.

im about as bright as a 300zx's head lights pre hid conversion.....lol! cant find info on the web, but someone on here recently talked about custom caliper brackets

Jimmy, Do what I did and get a spare front hub.

 

Obtain the discs of your choice and then give the hub, a disc and a caliper to a local engineering shop and tell them to make it all work :D

 

HTH

 

Rob.

they look very similar to the evo brembos... krsmayo has recently fitted these to his zed... he has the darwing for the caliper brackets. might be worth a pm..

I had some brackets specially manufactured so that I could fit Aston Martin DB9 callipers (Brembo) - these are fitted behind 19" alloys:)

 

Discs are 355mm x 32mm

 

Done by a company called Sykes Engineering in North Yorkshire http://www.sykoracing.com/

Edited April 28, 200916 yr by Apache

I remember a company that make alloy brackets, a mate of mine had some on an FRST, dont qoute me but i think willwood stock some, i doubt very much for what your asking. But i do know there is a company that do such things.

 

Personally id find some adequate disks, if its a budget whatevers biggest that will fit under your wheels then have the brakets made up. But, i was wondering, if you could

find some Porsche ceramic disks cheap, and if they fit the hub, have them drill/machined, but i dont know if this will be very realistic under heavy use?

 

I dont mean to insult, but whats better with the Porsch calipers? Do they allow you to run bigger disks? I was expecting to see 6 pots, still, at least they look better :p

I had some brackets specially manufactured so that I could fit Aston Martin DB9 callipers (Brembo) - these are fitted behind 19" alloys:)

 

Discs are 355mm x 32mm

 

Done by a company called Sykes Engineering in North Yorkshire http://www.sykoracing.com/

 

you need some up to date pics in your rides to show these off

I remember a company that make alloy brackets, a mate of mine had some on an FRST, dont qoute me but i think willwood stock some, i doubt very much for what your asking. But i do know there is a company that do such things.

 

Personally id find some adequate disks, if its a budget whatevers biggest that will fit under your wheels then have the brakets made up. But, i was wondering, if you could

find some Porsche ceramic disks cheap, and if they fit the hub, have them drill/machined, but i dont know if this will be very realistic under heavy use?

 

I dont mean to insult, but whats better with the Porsch calipers? Do they allow you to run bigger disks? I was expecting to see 6 pots, still, at least they look better :p

 

 

much bigger which dissipates heat, problem with stock calipers are they are so tiny they get soaked in heat very quickly. The pistons on these are bigger too. so il have more clamping force and get to use more of the disc surface with the bigger pads.

 

 

p.s i got these for £100

Edited April 28, 200916 yr by j1mmytt

much bigger which dissipates heat, problem with stock calipers are they are so tiny they get soaked in heat very quickly. The pistons on these are bigger too. so il have more clamping force and get to use more of the disc surface with the bigger pads.

 

 

p.s i got these for £100

 

Yeh i did wonder if the pistons were bigger, they do look it but its hard to judge from a picture.

 

Thats a bargain price, look brand new too!

that from your mate at the porsche garage then? Got any spares? :D

Excellent Buy. Quite often see Porsche Monoblocks popping up on our Favourite auction site, and its very tempting.

 

I dont mean to insult, but whats better with the Porsch calipers? Do they allow you to run bigger disks? I was expecting to see 6 pots, still, at least they look better :p

Number of pistons is irrelevant....that's just a marketing ploy that some of the low-end brake Manufactures use.

 

Larger Piston size (more clamping force)

Larger pad surface area (better force distribution and heat distribution)

Monoblock consruction (less caliper flex)

Significantly Larger Calipers (better heat dissipation)

 

Plus they will run larger diameter and thicker discs for more clamping force angle and heat dissipation.

 

The main problem with the stock calipers is poor heat dissipation and caliper flex. They will quickly warp a set of discs, overheat and boil the fluid with hard use.

that from your mate at the porsche garage then? Got any spares? :D

 

yah thats the one, just the one set so far :D

 

Im wondering if i can use the 330mm discs i have st the mo BECAUSE they are ford mustang cobra discs which are so bloody cheap to buy, i could buy just slotted ones or even plain.

 

Another bonus is my friend can bring home loads of half worn pads for me, he changes them every day some with hardly any wear, my god thats perfect for me. free pads forever :D

Excellent Buy. Quite often see Porsche Monoblocks popping up on our Favourite auction site, and its very tempting.

 

 

Number of pistons is irrelevant....that's just a marketing ploy that some of the low-end brake Manufactures use.

 

Larger Piston size (more clamping force)

Larger pad surface area (better force distribution and heat distribution)

Monoblock consruction (less caliper flex)

Significantly Larger Calipers (better heat dissipation)

 

Plus they will run larger diameter and thicker discs for more clamping force angle and heat dissipation.

 

The main problem with the stock calipers is poor heat dissipation and caliper flex. They will quickly warp a set of discs, overheat and boil the fluid with hard use.

 

Cool, i was aware of all of these factors, except the heat dissipation, something ive never been taught, nore have i read anywhere before, still, i love to learn :D

 

I always thought, that the idea of having more pots with one caliper was to give a greater pressure on an even, and increased surface really. Back in the days when i used to ride a push bike and buy Fast Car UK, they featured a US bmw, which used i think was 8 pots on one side of the disk, and then 6 pots adjacent to them.........

Heat dissipation is the main reason people need to upgrade brakes, but its not usually the reason they do upgrade.

 

Contrary to popular belief bigger brakes will not necessarily give you shorter stopping distances - if you can lock the brakes/engage the ABS with your stock brakes then they are already slowing the vehicle to the maximum grip that the tyres will allow.

 

Bigger brakes are all about sustaining full braking over prolonged heavy use, such as on the track, and they can improve the intitial bite response.........oh, and they look sexy :D

Edited April 28, 200916 yr by Yowser

Heat dissipation is the main reason people need to upgrade brakes, but its not usually the reason they do upgrade.

 

Contrary to popular belief bigger brakes will not necessarily give you shorter stopping distances - if you can lock the brakes/engage the ABS with your stock brakes then they are already slowing the vehicle to the maximum grip of the tyres will allow.

 

Bigger brakes are all about sustaining full braking over prolonged heavy use, such as on the track, and they can improve the intitial bite response.........oh, and they look sexy :D

 

I see clearer now!:)

 

It is strange though, i once had 2 novas, one that i fitted astra gte brakes to which i think were 232mm? It was a long time ago, and then another i fitted omega v6 brakes to with green stuff pads, and grooved and drilled disks. The smaller, standard brakes locked up a lot, and never really gave a great stopping distance, however the hoooge v6 ones gave great stopping power, and i only ever locked them up once. However, as you said, the tyres we a lot better, plus it had the weight of a c20xe i fitted.

 

But ive always thought, the brakes are as good as the tyres, looks like youll have 888's on order soon too! :P

i want some other wheels with r888's so i can just use for track

i want some other wheels with r888's so i can just use for track

 

Arnt they road legal? I should imagine they are of a soft compound, so i wouldnt want to use them on the road too much anyway, get torn apart!. Also when i had looked for some they wernt too cheap.

Arnt they road legal? I should imagine they are of a soft compound, so i wouldnt want to use them on the road too much anyway, get torn apart!. Also when i had looked for some they wernt too cheap.

 

yeah road legal but wear too quixkly for road use and need heat in them, so would be easier to just switch wheels when arriving to track.

yeah road legal but wear too quixkly for road use and need heat in them, so would be easier to just switch wheels when arriving to track.

 

Yeh, makes more sense

sooo anyone know of any engineering shops near london who can make me some brackets? those aston martin calipers look very similar to the porsche ones. How mjuch did those brackets set you back apache?

woohooo perfect,

 

I found EBC 330mm grooved and dimpled discs on ebay (not drilled) that bolt straight onto the zed, they are mustang cobra discs and just require a spigot ring to centralise them, obviously they need the adapter brackets which z1 can supply probably for a good price which will then enable you to use stock calipers. At least these wont crack like mine did which are actually mustang discs also.

So if ya need new discs then these are available on ebay for £199 and are a big step up from the smaller stock discs, you just have to buy the brackets from z1 or have them made.

 

These i recon will work well with the brembo calipers as the surface area is also larger, from looking at my cracked discs the insides of the disc surface is wasted so the larger pad should hopefully fill this up. Will see anyway.

 

Il be looking into a two piece disc sooner or later.

Edited April 29, 200916 yr by j1mmytt

sooo anyone know of any engineering shops near london who can make me some brackets? those aston martin calipers look very similar to the porsche ones. How mjuch did those brackets set you back apache?

 

Got them at mates rates :)................amazing what a flight in the simulator can buy:rofl:

this any gd to u jimmy ????

 

Ant i got mine off ebay, have you sorted out any brackets for them yet, i got a place in stansted abbots to make them up for £50, and they are very well made

this any gd to u jimmy ????

 

yes thats very helpful, im not too far from stansted, Wonder where krsmayo has been lately.