I don't take 'em and never will through personal choice but on Sky news this morning they came out with this.

 

Ecstasy could cause Parkinsons disease in later life. Experiments where rats had been given the equivalent of three tablets showed signs of developing the symptoms of Parkinsons over a period of time.

 

Hmmm, my question is that surely all the troops in the Vietnam war that were fed MDMA for months on end would be displaying these symptoms around about now wouldn't they???

 

Or is this just another wild speculation and piece of propaganda to scare monger people out of taking it?

 

I know that what gets sold on the street can be shite and rarely pure but come on!

 

Just my neutral curiosity playing on my mind that's all.

 

 

 

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Yeah, they also said that taking SEVERAL tabs EVERYDAY MIGHT cause Parkinson type symptons in later life!

 

 

 

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and giving a rat the equivalent does of a human is bound to cause trouble! if i gave you an elephant dose of tranquiliser it would probably do you in! its bullshit and has little relevance to humans, i know cause i'm a pharmacologist.

 

steve

Most people die of dehydration when taking 'E'.

 

Also drinking Fresh Orange Juice WILL give you cancer. However you have to drink 2 gallons a day for about 2 years before it happens.

The scientific world is full of contridictions. A few years ago people where outraged when scientests said the E was the safest "rave" drug.

In the paper today, after years of "The Pill" Danger stories and problems, taking the pill helps women consieve when they come off it.

All this pollution thats going on and the Government say that 80% is from cars, but other sources say that that only 15% come from cars. A person riding a mountain bike for 20mins produces the same amout of carbon dioxide than a 1.4 driving for 5mins.

You can make statistics say anything you want.

Originally posted by SRRAE:

Most people die of dehydration when taking 'E'.

 

The scientific world is full of contridictions.

As opposed to religion?

 

 

If people accept the risks then thats fine, if they die then thats fine too.

Just as long as the parents dont appear in every god damn newspaper bleating on about how much of a lovely boy/girl they were.

 

 

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Many many many more people die from alcohol and smoking than all other drugs put together !!

 

But they make a lot of money for the government !

about 20 people a year die from excasy, 95% from dehydration.

 

in its pure form MDMA it carries relatively few risks, its taken as a powder. Known side effects are depression for maybe a day afterwards.

 

Everything is a poisonm you'd be surprised to find out that oxygen is a poison and scientists have linked the consumption of oxygen to aging.

 

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I've never had a single E - but I've had 8 in a night a few times

 

Definately made me depressed/emotional for a few days afterwards but boy was it worth it.

 

Hasn't affected me yet apart from having a totally different outlook on life and a hatred of violent drunks and state taxed drugs which are PROVEN killers on an hourly basis.

 

I wouldn't recommend it to anyone - personal choice/risk but so is driving a Z at 160mph...

 

IMHO

Sorry guys I got this wrong!

 

They gave three tablets to monkeys and said that it would cause problems for humans if a person takes more than one in a single night.

 

But, and I don't endorse taking them, most people on the radio on the way home tonight said that you could be run over by a bus tomorrow so why worry about what could happen to you in later life!

 

Fair comment I suppose.

 

 

 

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I dont give a shit whether its safe or not. I dont take it and I dont intend taking it either.

Originally posted by SRRAE:

I dont give a shit whether its safe or not. I dont take it and I dont intend taking it either.

 

I agree Stu 100%,drugs are for losers,why people have to resort to drugs to feel happy is beyond me FFS!

 

 

 

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Yeah, I agree too Stu - you shouldn't take them, everyone else should though The only reason macca agrees is because drinking causes fighting - keeping him in a job. Drugs allow everyone to have a good time and amazingly not get angry with each other. If some drugs were legalised, we'd see half of the doormen in this country on the dole cue oh and have I ever said, SMOKE WEED AND BE HAPPY

 

 

CheerZ,

 

Andy

 

PS Has anyone seen my kittens?

 

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I'm with ChrisC on this.

 

Are alcohol and tobacco not drugs?

Do they not kill far more people than illegal drugs proportionally?

 

Get it into perspective FFS.

 

Taking pills, or drinking pints is the same thing to a point, both are a health risk, both give pleasure to the consumer.

But...

How many pill/dope heads go round kicking the shit out of people, their wives/girlfriends, cause criminal damage, genrally act like antisocial c*nts? Erm ..... not many is it now...?

Now think about how many piss heads cause grief?

 

And which is illegal and thought of as antisocial. LOL!!!

 

Iain I thought would would be in the best position to to see this difference in behaviour.

 

You can go down for having a few pills in your pocket and harm no one (yourself if anyone), but your allowed to kick the sh*t out of someone while pissed. Takes the piss a bit doesn't it?

 

 

 

Originally posted by Jezz_S13:

 

Iain I thought would would be in the best position to to see this difference in behaviour.

 

You can go down for having a few pills in your pocket and harm no one (yourself if anyone), but your allowed to kick the sh*t out of someone while pissed. Takes the piss a bit doesn't it?

 

 

I am in the best position to see the difference in behaviour!

Don't kid yourself Jez just because you are mellow when you are on it dont think everyone else acts the same

 

No it is not ok to kick the shit out of someone when they are pissed,who told you that?

 

After doing my job for over twelve years some of the most violent attacks on people have been while on drugs!

 

The other point Jez is some of these low life scum bags,resort to crime to substitute their drug habit FACT

 

 

I don't look down on anyone that chooses to take drugs,I simply would never ever do it myself,that is just my choice!

 

 

Now for those that condone drugs,go and tip a spoon full of heroin down your throat,then come back and tel me it is good for you LMFAO

 

 

 

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Originally posted by Jezz_S13:

 

 

How many pill/dope heads go round kicking the shit out of people, their wives/girlfriends, cause criminal damage, genrally act like antisocial c*nts? Erm ..... not many is it now...?

 

 

And which is illegal and thought of as antisocial. LOL!!!

 

 

ROFLLMFAO Have you ever seen anyone out of their tiny brain on acid,when you are 100% sober and switched on?

 

One stupid C*nt trying to escape out of the airvent from the gents toilets because he thought there were monsters outside LOL!

 

Another stupid C*nt trying to swim across the main road through traffic because he thought he was in a river!

 

Now if that is social behavior my name is George Bush LMAO

 

 

 

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Originally posted by andyduff:

Yeah, I agree too Stu - you shouldn't take them, everyone else should though The only reason macca agrees is because drinking causes fighting - keeping him in a job. Drugs allow everyone to have a good time and amazingly not get angry with each other. If some drugs were legalised, we'd see half of the doormen in this country on the dole cue oh and have I ever said, SMOKE WEED AND BE HAPPY

 

 

CheerZ,

 

Andy

 

PS Has anyone seen my kittens?

 

 

LMFAO! Andy if you spent less money on drink and drugs maybe you could afford a clutch that you need so much

 

 

 

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**** taking E's. I take Z every day!

 

Jez you talk more bollox than I could ever do!

 

 

 

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FFS! Top class entertainment!

 

 

LUKE DUKESTER

 

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I accept that various drugs do different things, this thread is talking about E's.

 

Have you ever seen anyone out of their tiny brain on acid,when you are 100% sober and switched on?

 

Yes I have.

Have you tried acid? Perhaps you should, infact perhaps you should actually try all drugs and then perhaps you'd maybe realise that they are not evil and the doing of satan as you seem to think they are.

If you try drugs and say I didn't find them enjoyable etc and chose not to do it then fine, but please don't go around preaching about something you seem to know nothing about.

 

Funny how people only ever talk about the bad stuff that happens innit. That's the problem with tabloid propaganda I'm afraid.

 

drugs are for losers,why people have to resort to drugs to feel happy is beyond me FFS!

 

So you never go out and have a drink to help enjoy yourself? It's the same thing whether you like it or not.

 

Besides MAC, I find it really quite ironic that someone who beats people up for a living (and I assume enjoys their work esp after 12 years in the job) can stand on a moral soap box and call people who take drugs losers. LOL.

Yes some are, but i think you'll find that most aren't and are very sucessful.

 

I admit that some people take too many drugs and **** up, but this is just the same as there are alcoholics, gamblers, Kleptomaniacs (that's people that steal)

The gambling & stealing is the adrenaline and subsequent endorphine buz that people are addicted to. Probably similar to you going out for a 167MPH (indicated) drive, which lets be honest is hardly the cleverest thing to do either is it, but so what.

It's all addiction regardless.

 

The other point Jez is some of these low life scum bags,resort to crime to substitute their drug habit FACT

 

I assume you mean support, not substitute. However I'm fully aware and fully agree with you that some scummy ****ers rob to support their habit, as do alcies and gambers etc.

My next door neighbour is a smack head, and he is also a total c*nt with it, he like beating people up and threatening people with baseball bats. I also used to live on the very edge of St Pauls Bristol, mmmmm nice place. How scummy do you like it? LOL

 

I'm not trying to start an argument here, I'm merely putting across my opinion, and answering a couple of your questions.

 

Cheers,

Jezz.

Originally posted by Timmy_Turbo:

Jez you talk more bollox than I could ever do!

 

LOL, I doubt that Timmy, I reckon you were born full of Acid with the bo11ocks you invariably come up with timmy.

 

Besides Timsk my uninformed friend which bit do you think is bollox?

 

 

Some people are just born jealous! LMFAO

 

 

 

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LMAO. :0

I'm not sure I could be jealous of you Tim, but was a funny gag nontheless.

 

 

ROFL

 

I love you too mate!

 

 

 

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having indulged in almost every known drug there is i'd sooner have drugs than beer or sex for that matter.....when brought from the proper peeps drugs are cheaper and last longer than beer and give you a better rush and visual buzz than sex. trips are just that a trip and if you like em like me then you never go under and even if you do or in my case anyway the wierder it gets the better it is but life is all about choice or so we are led to believe but what strikes me is the drink lobbyists have at lest a 600 yr start on the 'e' generation drugs are the future and the way ahead but not for at least another 100 years by which time i'll be long gone so i'll miss out anyway lol