what does everyone think a uk tt is worth or what should i be expecting to pay if its under 2k am i buying into trouble?

any comments welcome big decision time

well im going to see a blk uk spec 2moro ill tell you all about it later the zed i looked at last week silver na is now on autotrader for 1500 i could of had it for 700 oh well!!

Mine's clean up close. IE, clean even paint, no overspray, not dents, scratched, faided plastic, anything like that. Underside is very clean. :)

 

You'd pick up the faults on studio photos. :)

 

Mine has little flaws here and there, minor dimples from previous supermarket carpark wars and the odd stone chip that are magnified to me and the underside has had contact with the deck more than i'd realy have liked, but in general it's very clean.

 

It's the way it drives though that is what always impresses me. I've fitted Tein coil overs, camber arm, tie bars and done a few of the bushes (more to do) on my SWB and it handles very well, but it don't have that new possertiveness that the blue one alway has had even before I did everything I've done to the car.

I must have an excellent uk example then, as NO rust, every single thing works, never failed mot in 7 yrs :hyper:

 

Dave

 

That makes 2 of us then. UK, 50,000 miles, 1 previous owner, Full SH and NO RUST. I hunted for a UK Zed (previously had a JAP N/A) because I didn't want the niggles of converted speedos and spurious mileages. I also wanted one in standard trim with just the odd mod. That said, there's no guarantee on any second hand car that its not been clocked or tampered with. You just need to know what your looking at, ask the right questions and guage the seller in my opinion. If you plan on keeping the car for some time and are looking at possible classic status then a UK car will always end up worth more than an import. We just might have to wait a long time! Personally they are all great cars - JAP or UK.

I dont think Dave will ever sell his for any amount of money...it sure is a nice example tho as is yours shelton ;)

I dont think Dave will ever sell his for any amount of money...it sure is a nice example tho as is yours shelton ;)

 

Both in Cornwall (ish) as well. I'm looking forward to seeing Dave's car as every time we have met he has been in yours. It'll probably be snowing for the Jan meet so they will both be tucked up in their garages.

Both in Cornwall (ish) as well. I'm looking forward to seeing Dave's car as every time we have met he has been in yours. It'll probably be snowing for the Jan meet so they will both be tucked up in their garages.

 

Ye will be in mine again for the meet...his not allowed out the garage in the rain or winter :rolleyes: No doubt you will see it in the summer months or when we have next Plymouth meet :p Dont bring them both very often due to petrol expenses ;)

Not true Dave, all the parts related to what you mentioned are the same. Except for spring rates, which are slightly (but not really noticable) softer on the Jap.

 

yeh, some zed;s drive a lot better than others, but nothing to do with Uk vs Import.

 

Roll bars are different as well

Nope....one of the best things about Zed's that :D LOL

 

Most jap import marques have them ;) Why is it so good? :confused: Always seemed a bit pointless to me lol

Most jap import marques have them ;) Why is it so good? :confused: Always seemed a bit pointless to me lol

 

I was joking ;)

 

My Honda HR-V has them too...except they are the size if Truck Mirrors, pretty comical when these great big things start flapping in and out

.............. Some UK specs also came without electric driver's seat didn't they?

 

Yes - those without leather. AFAIK all UK specs that do have leather seats have an electric driver's seat; later ones also had an electric passenger seat. Some were heated as well.

 

Richard :cool:

Yes - those without leather. AFAIK all UK specs that do have leather seats have an electric driver's seat; later ones also had an electric passenger seat. Some were heated as well.

 

Richard :cool:

 

mine has leather and is non electric :confused:

what does everyone think a uk tt is worth or what should i be expecting to pay if its under 2k am i buying into trouble?

any comments welcome big decision time

 

I bought my current zed 3 months ago for 3.5k - black jdm s2 '94 auto no leather 58k on the clock. I saw many cars before i picked this one up. I got 4 aa/rac reports done before i bought. When I came to look at it - the seller also had a 30k mileage car in an awful colour 90 s1 in really astonishing condition for £4250. I bought mine as it had the rear spoiler i wanted, was newer 94, was a series2 car, was black and only had 2 interior trim panels making rattling noise. The engine was super sweet, the brake pads needed replacing as did the tyres. I budgeted for those, they are not cheap, proper service and have spent just under another £1000 on it so far. Alarm immob and other things to bring it up to perfect condition should not really be anymore than £500... anything above that that i spend is really just up to personal choice. The mileage on many jap cars is claimed to be clocked by lots of people. I don't know if mine is - but i do know is that my car drives solid, sweet and smooth. If has been clocked, then it was also very well looked after. Also the AA report I got on this car was the cleanest i have ever seen... It was basically half the size of some of the other reports i'd received most notably, a uk car which had so many dents and marks and lots and lots of rust, notes - the car was just not good enough for me. i spent a lot of time and money looking for the right one and even with the new tyres and pads and that sweet engine purring away - i wasn't convinced of the mileage or condition as i'd heard lots of stories and am naturally very sceptical, until - i brought the car over to a forum member who has had quite a few - and let me tell you - when he opened up the bonnet - the look on his face - i knew it - i'd got a good 'un... His exact words were "I'll be glad when mine sounds like that". I think he in the middle of a rebuild. My advice is simple,

 

1. this is not a cheap car to maintain, with 2k i recommend you get an NA, as late as possible and check the condition. and then check it again. as your first 300zx you can get a good NA for the money and you will doubtless have fewer potential problems. it's not that much less powerful especially in manual form - a real corker. drive it for a while - 1-2 years and by then you will be able to get a decent TT for 3k no prob...

 

2. test drive! i took an hour long test drive of my final car. The guy selling it wasn't happy, but i was adamant. do the same. take it down different roads, at different speeds, feel the engine, clutch, box, brakes, steering in different conditions. If there is anything that feels off after an hour - walk away no matter what... even if you think you can explain it - walk away... you will be saving yourself money in the long run. I saw one car that seemed ok and drove good, was seriously considering it, but had the aa or rac to a check on it as i felt something was off, specifically with the handling - didn't know what or why - just seemed off ever so slightly. report showed rust in the mid rear underside and front suspension and wheel play...

 

3. every uk car i have looked at is rusty - now i know lots of people on here have rust free uk cars and i don't dispute it - all i am saying is rust is a problem on uk cars. i was thinking of a uk car for insurance purposes and by the time i saw my fourth uk car i realised that those who have clean uk cars either do not want to sell them or advertise them for £6-8k and they get bought at close to those prices, i.e. out of my price range. My advice is simple - get a jap import.

 

4. stay away from cars that have been owned by racers... they rape the engines, turbos, clutches, gearboxes - in short, everything. Before people start telling me i am wrong i want this to be clear. this is my opinion only, but i stand by it 100%. They way i tell them apart is simple - if it's modded - stay away. If he's put a turbo timer on it - to me that means the turbos have never had an hour let alone a day off. If he's got boost gauges - they are not just their for show! if he's had a boost controller on it - those turbos have been used at boost levels way above what the engineers at nissan have created the "complete mechanical car system" to be operating at in the long run, leading to excessive wear and tear and potential problems in most major systems within the car much *earlier* than you would expect them on a standard car. also, big high spoilers, aftermarket harnesses, seats, coloured brake pads, huge exhausts indicate this car was used by someone to show off in front of others - chances he was doing this *slowly* are slim... I can't tell you how many 300zx's i've seen and heard swoosh past me in the last 15 years... asshole at the wheel means assholed car mechanics... and it's very very few owners that bother to create a complete SYSTEM upgrade on a car. most of the ones that do seem to be on this site...

 

summarising, and changing the order a little, my advice is simple;

1. get an NA for a coupla years

2. get a jap import

3. get as original a car as possible, THEN do what you want to it...

4. don't bein a rush, look at lots of cars. don't be scared to walk away as odds are you will find a better one during your search (quest may be a better word :smw: ). test drive the car for as long as possible before you buy it, if you even have an unexplainable feeling, but everything looks good - walk away!

 

good luck in your quest and hope to see you on here much much more in the not so distant future...

 

p.s. if you want a targa (which i recommend) get it before April, as prices may go up for summer usage, but then again only a tad...

p.p.s. caveat emptor - again don't forget you will always get one if you have cash, once you've bought one you may not always be able to sell it for close to what you paid for it... yes yes i know - unless you break it, but even then...

p.p.p.s. crap, i've said too much again... :smw:

UK specs don't have e/folding mirrors did they?

They don't fold like JAP spec but they are heated.

My z came with a JUMVEA certificate stating mileage,not stolen etc

 

is this of any value or is it not worth the paper its written on

I bought my current zed 3 months ago for 3.5k p.s.

 

if you want a targa (which i recommend) get it before April, as prices may go up for summer usage, but then again only a tad...

p.p.s. caveat emptor - again don't forget you will always get one if you have cash, once you've bought one you may not always be able to sell it for close to what you paid for it... yes yes i know - unless you break it, but even then...

p.p.p.s. crap, i've said too much again... :smw:

 

Well said that man. Reckon there is some petty sound advice there. That said, I have a loudish stainless exhaust and wider wheels and I am most certainly not in the boy racer category (mind you I kept the orignals just in case I grow up a bit).

 

PS. Something tells me you may get some more replies as I would guess that many will not agree with your wise words of wisdom. Could be an interesting thread.

My z came with a JUMVEA certificate stating mileage,not stolen etc

is this of any value or is it not worth the paper its written on

that is a very interesting question - JUMVEA and BIMTA certificates worth anything on JDMs? anyone know?

. stay away from cars that have been owned by racers... they rape the engines, turbos, clutches, gearboxes - in short, everything. Before people start telling me i am wrong i want this to be clear. this is my opinion only, but i stand by it 100%. They way i tell them apart is simple - if it's modded - stay away. If he's put a turbo timer on it - to me that means the turbos have never had an hour let alone a day off. If he's got boost gauges - they are not just their for show! if he's had a boost controller on it - those turbos have been used at boost levels way above what the engineers at nissan have created the "complete mechanical car system" to be operating at in the long run, leading to excessive wear and tear and potential problems in most major systems within the car much *earlier* than you would expect them on a standard car. also, big high spoilers, aftermarket harnesses, seats, coloured brake pads, huge exhausts indicate this car was used by someone to show off in front of others - chances he was doing this *slowly* are slim...

 

My car has almost everything you have stated and i can asure you i am not a boy racer.

The car is mint, under the bonnet under the car, and the engine is also well looked after and i very very rarely take it above 3000rpm and runs sweet, oil is changed every 1k.

 

So if you was to see my car you would of walked away because of its looks, and you would of passed on a perfect machine ;)

 

If you came to drive my car for an hour, i would drop you off in the middle of no where and tell you to piss off :p

So if you was to see my car you would of walked away because of its looks, and you would of passed on a perfect machine ;)

 

If you came to drive my car for an hour, i would drop you off in the middle of no where and tell you to piss off :p

 

Tears are already running down my face. This one is definately going to be a very interesting thread.

1. this is not a cheap car to maintain, with 2k i recommend you get an NA, as late as possible and check the condition. and then check it again. as your first 300zx you can get a good NA for the money and you will doubtless have fewer potential problems. it's not that much less powerful especially in manual form - a real corker. drive it for a while - 1-2 years and by then you will be able to get a decent TT for 3k no prob...

Wise advise for 1st time buyers. Although in Malkie300zx's case this is the 3rd zed he's buying this year (previous 2 were TT's) , he has a bit of an addiction to buying and selling them LOL

I'd far rather buy a car that had had its legs stretched once in a while than a coked up shopping trolley!!! The engines are designed to run on boost and if they don't see this often enough will soon coke up and have all sorts of problems. Sarah's car is a prime example - she hardly ever gets it on boost (mainly because its used for a daily commute to work so traffic and roads don't allow it). I've just had to take all the plugs out and give them a damn good clean - with the amount of carbon I'm surprised it was running on the 5 cylinders that it was!!!!

once you go jap you dont go back!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ting tong where are you? :P

Well said that man. Reckon there is some petty sound advice there. That said, I have a loudish stainless exhaust and wider wheels and I am most certainly not in the boy racer category (mind you I kept the orignals just in case I grow up a bit).

 

PS. Something tells me you may get some more replies as I would guess that many will not agree with your wise words of wisdom. Could be an interesting thread.

 

And that, my friend, is what democracy and forums are all about... I really only know most of this because after having looked for a car from MAR07 to AUG07 I saw so much utter crap that i realised it's time to look at this forum much much more closely... there is nothing really new there except a couple of my own personal opinions - some people may find a car that's specced up exactly how they want it... condition is whole different story... plus, let's not be too stringent, honestly i wouldn't mind buying a car that had larger wheels on (especially if the owner held on to the originals, which indicates to me he's the one who fitted those wheels - not one of the previous 10 owners :) )and an exhaust - especially a good one helps engine breathing - hardly damages it! even a good chip i wouldn't mind. what i'm refering to is the boost barstewards - who up the boost with a controller and don't change anything else except maybe chips and filters... often pushing those turbos way past the pressure they can possibly take and maintain good working order *for a while*. again there are really *REALLY* amazing upgrades on members cars here that I am 100% positive are very carefully and well thought out and carried out by (professionals often the owners), but this fellow is looking for a £2k car and those cars are £8k+++++... I mean steve300zx has his horsepower uprated and some mods done and wheels - but look at that car! i mean really - you know that the person who has a car that pristine is *NEVER* gonna do anything that might damage it - you could eat off it - interior and exterior!.. and a coupla of those 500bhp cars - HOLY SHEET! i mean - you know those guy love their cars so much they would never do anyting to damage them, well intentionally anyway, for the simple fact that for that £20k to maybe even £50k that i think one car in particular must have cost over the years - they could have got a ferrari 360 or a porker or really anything else... i was worried my last post might have come off a bit too, how shall i put, judgemental... well it's only my opinion and i will tell you straight off - i don't know 10% of what most members know about 300zx's, but i do know a thing or two about common sense, negotiation, sales, trading, people, psychology, and it's all just experience - in other things, sure - but it's still experience... it's like dustin hoffman says in that "wag the dog" - you take 30 years of mistakes and you call it experience... :smw:

 

I mean let's not forget! This is a £2k-£3k car the man's looking for... and we all know that there are a lot of dead horses out there for that money...

I'd far rather buy a car that had had its legs stretched once in a while than a coked up shopping trolley!!! The engines are designed to run on boost and if they don't see this often enough will soon coke up and have all sorts of problems. Sarah's car is a prime example - she hardly ever gets it on boost (mainly because its used for a daily commute to work so traffic and roads don't allow it). I've just had to take all the plugs out and give them a damn good clean - with the amount of carbon I'm surprised it was running on the 5 cylinders that it was!!!!

 

 

Mine was like that that when i picked it up, gave it a good blast on the motor way. my dad was behind in the mr2, everytime i droped it a big cloud of black sut blasted out,

All gone now :D

And that, my friend, is what democracy and forums are all about... I really only know most of this because after having looked for a car from MAR07 to AUG07 I saw so much utter crap that i realised it's time to look at this forum much much more closely... there is nothing really new there except a couple of my own personal opinions - some people may find a car that's specced up exactly how they want it... condition is whole different story... plus, let's not be too stringent, honestly i wouldn't mind buying a car that had larger wheels on (especially if the owner held on to the originals, which indicates to me he's the one who fitted those wheels - not one of the previous 10 owners :) )and an exhaust - especially a good one helps engine breathing - hardly damages it! even a good chip i wouldn't mind. what i'm refering to is the boost barstewards - who up the boost with a controller and don't change anything else except maybe chips and filters... often pushing those turbos way past the pressure they can possibly take and maintain good working order *for a while*. again there are really *REALLY* amazing upgrades on members cars here that I am 100% positive are very carefully and well thought out and carried out by (professionals often the owners), but this fellow is looking for a £2k car and those cars are £8k+++++... I mean steve300zx has his horsepower uprated and some mods done and wheels - but look at that car! i mean really - you know that the person who has a car that pristine is *NEVER* gonna do anything that might damage it - you could eat off it - interior and exterior!.. and a coupla of those 500bhp cars - HOLY SHEET! i mean - you know those guy love their cars so much they would never do anyting to damage them, well intentionally anyway, for the simple fact that for that £20k to maybe even £50k that i think one car in particular must have cost over the years - they could have got a ferrari 360 or a porker or really anything else... i was worried my last post might have come off a bit too, how shall i put, judgemental... well it's only my opinion and i will tell you straight off - i don't know 10% of what most members know about 300zx's, but i do know a thing or two about common sense, negotiation, sales, trading, people, psychology, and it's all just experience - in other things, sure - but it's still experience... it's like dustin hoffman says in that "wag the dog" - you take 30 years of mistakes and you call it experience... :smw:

 

I mean let's not forget! This is a £2k-£3k car the man's looking for... and we all know that there are a lot of dead horses out there for that money...

 

Agree with you!, out of interest are you a secretary?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sorry my bad you dont use paragraphs! so surely not. :rofl: :p

Agree with you!, out of interest are you a secretary?

 

 

Sorry my bad you dont use paragraphs! so surely not. :rofl: :p

 

lol!!! it is hard to see where your upto :D