BIG PROBLEMS!

 

To give background i had a long journey in the car last night from london to derby and back. It was very wet if that makes a difference but when i went back to the car this lunchtime, a good 11 hours since the journey, it didnt start.

 

I turn the key and it gives a couple of normal turning over chugs and then CLUNK. sort of similar to when you start the car in gear but different slightly and the car wasnt in gear.

 

Tried again. CLUNK. Tried again. CLUNK.

 

Went to look under the bonnet and noticed that where i hadnt secured one side of the upper fan shroud it had obviously come into contact with the viscous fan and it had destroyed a small section and also worn the tops of the fan blades down an amount. The shroud has not been secured on one side for a few weeks and this hadnt happened previuosly even with long journeys. Perhaps extra forces from water heavy air had caused it or higher speeds.

 

Thought a shard of plastic might have been caught in one of the belts and the front so had a feel around but couldnt tell much.

 

Tried to start again and there was a CLACKING noise similar to when you put football cards in the spokes of your push bike as a kid.

 

Had another feel around and started it again. This time there was just a WUURRR from what must be the starter motor running freely. I heard fuel pump knocking too. tried again and it was just the free running WUURRING which seemed to be coming from the bottom-back of the engine.

 

I understand that keep trying to start it with a problem hasnt help but can you help me piece this together to figure out what is up????

check the oil on the dipstick and then run the car and check you have spark on all cylinders if you dont and the car is running on 5 check the ptu plug ! you could have a dodgy PTU causing all of this problem so just check the sparks to all cylinders first !

ok will deff change the oil then.

 

do you recommend i run the engine for a few minutes to heat the oil up and get rid of the waxy stuff or sound i not risk running the engine again with the current oil?

 

Ouch :( Waxy stuff don't sound good! If its a milky emulsion then get a sniffer on the coolant ASAP to determine damaged head gasket etc... If the water is mixing with the oil, then eventually the oil strainer will clog up and the engine will no longer have any oil pressure causing all sorts of BIG problems....

Oh bugger !!! I missed the waxy comment :slap:

 

Sorry. If it's all milky I'd just drain it over night. Like Andy said, running it with emulsified oil will destroy your motor very quickly.

 

And if it is all milky you have a bigger problem.

chill guys waxy is a technical term we use in the oil & gas industry to decribe a heavy oil that has cooled and has an increased viscosity making it harder to pump or pour.

 

no mayo in my engine.

 

i do have a question of what Paul@SWZ said. How can i tell if it is running on 5 cylinders and how can i tell which one is not firing?

chill guys waxy is a technical term we use in the oil & gas industry to decribe a heavy oil that has cooled and has an increased viscosity making it harder to pump or pour.

 

no mayo in my engine.

 

i do have a question of what Paul@SWZ said. How can i tell if it is running on 5 cylinders and how can i tell which one is not firing?

 

With the engine running pull the coilpack connectors one by one, you will hear a change in engine note/vibration.

 

The plug that doesnt change the engine note is your misfire.

 

If you have Datascan you can just do it from there.

This does sound like a bad battery - Charge it up as said above and try again - if it then starts you need to get a new battery as this ones had it. The clicking noise is a solenoid - your battery doesnt have enough power to crank the engine so it doesnt even try.......

I would say so; mine did the same, allsorts of strange things can happen when the battery dies.

get with the program sunshine! it was water getting to my ECU and causing the injectors to fire into the cylinders even through it was not running and meant the pistons were locked in place when trying to start. Battery is pukka!

 

 

method of testing if cylinders are all working sounds good. Is that the prefered way of testing it for all you zeders???

get with the program sunshine! it was water getting to my ECU and causing the injectors to fire into the cylinders even through it was not running and meant the pistons were locked in place when trying to start. Battery is pukka!

 

 

method of testing if cylinders are all working sounds good. Is that the prefered way of testing it for all you zeders???

What’s that suppose to mean?

get with the program sunshine!

 

Chill Winston!

 

think he was just saying that it is not to do with the battery????

get with the program sunshine!

 

Thats a nice freindly remark :nono:

 

CHILL OUT .... dont turn into a :xxx:

 

Peeps are only trying to help and offer advice.

get with the program sunshine!

 

WOW thats one way to stop getting help from people :slap:

sorry sorry sorry. It was only meant in a banter way. But i suppose the tone is hard to get accross in text form!!

Let's just all be friends!

sorry sorry sorry. It was only meant in a banter way. But i suppose the tone is hard to get accross in text form!!

Let's just all be friends!

That's cool mate, :D just came across wrong. Have a good day anyway.

Ta.

 

I have just recieved an ECU from Andy P who has sent me it by 1st class post to test on my car without getting any details or deposits from me.

 

It is gents like that that made this country great! i am indebited to the help, friendlyness and trust of people on this board and would never intend to offend anyone.

Way to go Clive01

And without the internet ......... ?????????