I've started taking the bits I'll need for my manual swap from my old zed. Jimmer will be putting them in my new zed, and I want to make sure I get everything I need.

 

So far I've thought of:

Gearbox, flywheel and clutch obviously

Gearstick and related assembly

Clutch pedal

Brake pedal

Wiring harness that connects under the headlight I think?

Prop

Slave cylinder

Starter motor (or are they the same?)

 

Is that everything? What have I missed? I've got a feeling I read somewhere the radiators are different, will I need that as well?

Starters are the same

It is lots of effort to replace the brake pedal and most of the time you can just cut the auto pedal in half and install the rubber cover

You can use the auto loom or you can use the manual loom.

Radiators are different but you can leave the auto one in as its a closed loop for the auto cooling system.

 

Might be worth getting the engine transmission plate, The pilot bearing and clutch release bearing etc.

All assorted bolts (flywheel, clutch etc)

Clutch line (zcentre makes one for purpose)

 

 

That's it off the top of my head. Just know what you mean by: "Gearstick and related assembly" etc as you need to remember the shifter boot and retainer and all the bolts etc.

 

Of course transmission fluid and you could replace the rear main seal at the same time.

 

 

Also is the new box a tt or na

Starters are the same

It is lots of effort to replace the brake pedal and most of the time you can just cut the auto pedal in half and install the rubber cover

You can use the auto loom or you can use the manual loom.

Radiators are different but you can leave the auto one in as its a closed loop for the auto cooling system.

 

Might be worth getting the engine transmission plate, The pilot bearing and clutch release bearing etc.

All assorted bolts (flywheel, clutch etc)

Clutch line (zcentre makes one for purpose)

 

 

That's it off the top of my head. Just know what you mean by: "Gearstick and related assembly" etc as you need to remember the shifter boot and retainer and all the bolts etc.

 

Of course transmission fluid and you could replace the rear main seal at the same time.

 

 

Also is the new box a tt or na

 

Swapping the brake pedal from auto to manual takes about 15 mins...... Cutting it up is just

 

Swapping the brake pedal from auto to manual takes about 15 mins...... Cutting it up is just

 

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Stephen said you need to bleed the brakes no?

Do you have to change the ECU.

Do you have to change the ECU.

No

Stephen said you need to bleed the brakes no?

 

Did I? Dont recall that. Don't see why. You only need to bleed if you break the hydraulic system.

 

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Swapping the brake pedal from auto to manual takes about 15 mins...... Cutting it up is just

 

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Disagree.

Stephen said you need to bleed the brakes no?

 

You are never sitting behind me in a convoy alic.......

Did I? Dont recall that. Don't see why. You only need to bleed if you break the hydraulic system.

 

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Disagree.

 

But why take the easy route when you could do the job the correct way? I would much rather know a job is done the right way than the easy way.

 

I feel that this taking the easy/cheap option is precisely why many zeds and other cars end up the way they do.

 

Do it right and do it once. :yes:

You are never sitting behind me in a convoy alic.......

lol if it is a 15 min job i might as well do it then. Just swapping the arms over you mean?

 

Did I? Dont recall that. Don't see why. You only need to bleed if you break the hydraulic system.

Aha maybe I do remember incorrectly but I just followed by what you said and I can't see why it will be a problem, by cutting it you still use the same rubber cover so they are effectively the same

lol if it is a 15 min job i might as well do it then. Just swapping the arms over you mean?

 

 

Aha maybe I do remember incorrectly but I just followed by what you said and I can't see why it will be a problem, by cutting it you still use the same rubber cover so they are effectively the same

 

Yes, you only need to disconnect the pedal from the pushrod and remove the pivot pin. Fiddly yes but what isnt on a zed....

But why take the easy route when you could do the job the correct way? I would much rather know a job is done the right way than the easy way.

 

I feel that this taking the easy/cheap option is precisely why many zeds and other cars end up the way they do.

 

Do it right and do it once. :yes:

 

Because it's easy.

Why find, purchase another pedal and faff about fitting it to end up with exactly what you could done in 10 seconds for free. It's like buying half a brick. It offers no structural, functional or practical purpose. In fact all it serves is that should someone remove the rubber cover they may see the cut line. It's not like I'm advocating using some chip shop pedal of a Peugeot that kinda fits but not really. It's the same part with a slightly longer peice of sheet metal that can be trimmed to end up with an indenticle product. If your that hungbup on preserving the cars pedigree then you wouldn't be converting an auto to a manual in the first place.

Il tell you this much, you could only know my pedal is cut because I just told you and if you said it was cowboy and devalued the car I'd laugh my ass off and tell you it's a 27 year old Nissan.

Because it's easy.

Why find, purchase another pedal and faff about fitting it to end up with exactly what you could done in 10 seconds for free. It's like buying half a brick. It offers no structural, functional or practical purpose. In fact all it serves is that should someone remove the rubber cover they may see the cut line. It's not like I'm advocating using some chip shop pedal of a Peugeot that kinda fits but not really. It's the same part with a slightly longer peice of sheet metal that can be trimmed to end up with an indenticle product. If your that hungbup on preserving the cars pedigree then you wouldn't be converting an auto to a manual in the first place.

Il tell you this much, you could only know my pedal is cut because I just told you and if you said it was cowboy and devalued the car I'd laugh my ass off and tell you it's a 27 year old Nissan.

 

When I did the manual conversion on my old black Zed, I cut the auto brake pedal down. Took less than two minutes to do, the manual rubber fitted perfectly and, as you said, you'd only know because I told you.

 

I can see Chris' point to a degree, but you could then argue that to do the conversion "properly" you should be swapping the complete looms and ECUs, as well as retrofitting all the complicated clutch lines. Sometimes there's no sense in going to that extent when it's unnecessary :)

I think it took me longer to put the fire retardant sheeting down than the cut took, about 2 seconds with a nasty little cutting tool. :devil:

lol if it is a 15 min job i might as well do it then. Just swapping the arms over you mean?

 

 

Aha maybe I do remember incorrectly but I just followed by what you said and I can't see why it will be a problem, by cutting it you still use the same rubber cover so they are effectively the same

 

Not sure you can mix and match like that Ali, the NA pedal like what's come from your Donnor is unassisted and has a different pivot point to compensate. I can't say for sure but I'd guess fitting the NA arm into the TT frame would end up with different height pedals. Now that would be chip shop.

Because it's easy.

Why find, purchase another pedal and faff about fitting it to end up with exactly what you could done in 10 seconds for free. It's like buying half a brick. It offers no structural, functional or practical purpose. In fact all it serves is that should someone remove the rubber cover they may see the cut line. It's not like I'm advocating using some chip shop pedal of a Peugeot that kinda fits but not really. It's the same part with a slightly longer peice of sheet metal that can be trimmed to end up with an indenticle product. If your that hungbup on preserving the cars pedigree then you wouldn't be converting an auto to a manual in the first place.

Il tell you this much, you could only know my pedal is cut because I just told you and if you said it was cowboy and devalued the car I'd laugh my ass off and tell you it's a 27 year old Nissan.

 

Its nothing to do with de valueing the car, its to do with knowing in your own mind you that YOU went the extra mile and didnt just take the easy option with the "that'll do attitude".

 

Your car so YOU do what you feel is the best/easiest way.:thumbup1:

Not sure you can mix and match like that Ali, the NA pedal like what's come from your Donnor is unassisted and has a different pivot point to compensate. I can't say for sure but I'd guess fitting the NA arm into the TT frame would end up with different height pedals. Now that would be chip shop.

 

We are talking brake pedals here.....

We are talking brake pedals here.....

 

We are indeed?

We are talking brake pedals here.....

 

The TT brake pedal is different to the NA one. :thumbup1:

Brain fart. Got my brake pedal and clutch pedal mixed up there, sorry Chris.

The TT brake pedal is different to the NA one. :thumbup1:

 

What is the difference?

What is the difference?

 

I'm getting mixed up with the brake and clutch pedals as well!

I'm getting mixed up with the brake and clutch pedals as well!

 

Thought so, youve been going too hard at the stiching :lol:

 

And apparently I can't spell.

Edited March 12, 20178 yr by Chrisbasildon

I'm getting mixed up with the brake and clutch pedals as well!

 

Those two are the same.

If Jimmers down to doing the conversion, you should be in touch with him about what you need to supply and what he can supply. He will also advise you on the ECU, wiring loom, clutch parts etc., which will be from the experience of carryout loads of these conversions. I know because he did a conversion on my first Zed in 2005.

I'm getting mixed up with the brake and clutch pedals as well!

 

I think you're just getting mixed up with manual and automatic pedals! :lol: