As title folks - the NEC 2016 is almost upon us; and we need 4 of the very best cars this club has to offer, in order to represent the Z32 and club on the world stage.

 

Dates for the show are:

Thursday 10th November - be there around 9am for set-up

Friday 11th, Saturday 12th, Sunday 13th November - show open to the public

Sunday 13th November - remain until after the show closes, dismantle and leave

 

Your car will be locked in for the entire duration - no exceptions; and no chance of arriving later or leaving earlier.

You do not have to remain with it; although your assistance in manning the stand over the weekend would be appreciated. And if you can't stay, then you'd have to entrust your keys to one of the committee on hand over the weekend. Just in case of emergencies!

 

The club has booked (twin) rooms at the Ibis hotel; the cost of which is covered by us. Albeit you'll be expected to share with another participant. Meals etc are not covered, you will be expected to pay for your own food...:wink:

 

Time is now of the essence, this thread is not a debate; or for opinions to be voiced. If you have a Zed which you feel will meet the required standard; and are willing to participate and able to commit to the whole weekend, then you are welcome to volunteer....! We had a few potential volunteers from our thread back in January - if you're still up for it, please let us know ASAP. This thread will be closed on Sunday evening, so what are you waiting for......:thumbup:

 

Richard:clover:

Don't go all shy now. I'm getting the impression that you're not completely happy with the line-up so, again, who would you have chosen?

 

Not shy at all, it's not the line up that's the issue, I said this previously, it's how the line up was agreed.

Why? If there were only 2 cars left to chose from - and 2 spaces to fill - it's job done, isn't it?

 

I simply meant if 2 cars were offered to fill one space to represent the club it should be decided by the clubs members.

Not shy at all, it's not the line up that's the issue, I said this previously, it's how the line up was agreed.

 

As has been said, Joel is arguably the single most obvious choice to be on the stand. No poll needed there, I don't think.

 

A SWB was requested. Myself and Phutumsch stood up for that one. As lousy luck would have it, Andy's respray hasn't gone to plan whatsoever which means (despite his best efforts and considerable expense) that his Slicktop isn't "show ready" sadly. So that leaves me.

 

A Vert was requested. IanL was the only owner to offer his car so, again, no vote required.

 

Then it's left to a shoot-out between AndrewG and FunkySi. That battle was decided by colour alone.

 

So there were only ever really two spots that could've had a vote attached to them, and one of those spots sadly lost a runner due to terrible workmanship.

This is pretty much the problem. We didn't really have much to choose from so I understand, even if there will be more pristine examples out there.

 

This is exactly the issue Ali.....!

 

And by "not much to chose from" I mean, the sheer number of potential exhibitors who could and would step up on the day. Not the standard of the cars we have.....

 

......I have stressed this every year since 2014; it's a big ask of anyone, to actually participate in the show. You have to arrive at the NEC Thursday morning, help set up the stand, leave your car there; and preferably remain on hand to assist in manning the stand. And then you don't get to leave until late Sunday evening, once you have helped dismantle the stand.

 

The club only covers the cost of a basic hotel room for the duration - you have to cover your own meals; and, in effort to keep the cost down, possibly share a room with someone else.

 

For this reason - and the lack of interested participants, once the time was upon us - the club is going to hold a debate on whether to have a stand in 2017.

 

However for 2016 we have committed ourselves; and will do our best, once again, to represent the club, the Z32 and actively promote interest in both on the world stage! We certainly look forward to welcoming everyone and catching up next weekend.....:thumbup:

I simply meant if 2 cars were offered to fill one space to represent the club it should be decided by the clubs members.

 

For sure, if there was serious competition for a place and a final decision was needed, that's how it would have gone mate. But there were "behind the scenes" communications with the final few potential exhibitors and everything was agreed upon.

 

Ultimately, it's not up to the club or the committee - but the participants, on whether they can (or want to) do it.

For sure, if there was serious competition for a place and a final decision was needed, that's how it would have gone mate. But there were "behind the scenes" communications with the final few potential exhibitors and everything was agreed upon.

 

Ultimately, it's not up to the club or the committee - but the participants, on whether they can (or want to) do it.

 

Behind the scenes...... I rest my case.

I was under the impression that there would be a poll or at least a discussion between us all before it was decided but to be fair I think it would've had the same outcome. I did say I'd like to put my car forward but didn't hear anything. Maybe next year we need to sort who's going to be on the stand earlier in the year with a couple of people on standby so they can get their zeds ready. I do think the stand will look great this year with the variation of zeds on show :-). Maybe we can get a bigger stand next year?

I,m not offended

 

Yes my roof is in my opinion tatty. The roof won,t be on view though

 

I said all along, if a vert is wanted, and if no better vert was available , then i would be happy to attend

 

Because i,m aware the car is not as pristine as others attending, it has just come back from 3 days at the detailers and i,m rather excited now

For sure, if there was serious competition for a place and a final decision was needed, that's how it would have gone mate. But there were "behind the scenes" communications with the final few potential exhibitors and everything was agreed upon.

 

Ultimately, it's not up to the club or the committee - but the participants, on whether they can (or want to) do it.

 

Maybe the members should be kept better informed of the progress of things like this, not just make the decisions behind the scenes and don't even bother to make an announcement until someone asks the question.

I was under the impression that there would be a poll or at least a discussion between us all before it was decided but to be fair I think it would've had the same outcome. I did say I'd like to put my car forward but didn't hear anything. Maybe next year we need to sort who's going to be on the stand earlier in the year with a couple of people on standby so they can get their zeds ready. I do think the stand will look great this year with the variation of zeds on show :-). Maybe we can get a bigger stand next year?

 

The bolded part would be ideal, in my opinion. I appreciate that we might not necessarily know how big a stand we'll be allocated until quite close to the event, but it can't hurt to get a shortlist of dedicated and willing participants in readiness?

The bolded part would be ideal, in my opinion. I appreciate that we might not necessarily know how big a stand we'll be allocated until quite close to the event, but it can't hurt to get a shortlist of dedicated and willing participants in readiness?

 

How much earlier than January do you want??

How much earlier than January do you want??

 

The January thread proved to be largely irrelevant as one of the posters sold his award-winning car!

 

So the thread was revived and volunteers asked for again. Which netted 6 possible cars.

 

6.

 

Six.

 

Not quite the deluge that January's thread brought in.

 

What's your point in all of this? You feel hard done by because you didn't have a say on which cars go on the stand? Worse things happen at sea, and all that...

Behind the scenes...... I rest my case.

 

Maybe the members should be kept better informed of the progress of things like this, not just make the decisions behind the scenes and don't even bother to make an announcement until someone asks the question.

 

Nothing sinister Chris; as I said, it's down to the participants. When I say "behind the scenes" I am referring to the work that we all do "behind the scenes" to keep the club running. In this instance, we have a show to organise. A show that takes place next weekend. This thread has had very little interest since October 9th; and in that time we have been in communication with the potential exhibitors to finalise the cars. Dealing with the show organisers with regards insurance, health and safety requirements, attendees' passes, NEC access, entry times, props, you name it!

 

There's more to it than just selecting a couple of cars mate! So on behalf of the committee, I apologise for being tardy in posting up the results - but we also do have our day jobs to do on top of that! Hence considering there were only 2 "other" spaces to fill, we dealt with it the easiest way possible, given the time constraints, by liaising with the participants and agreed everything with them directly.

I,m not offended

 

Yes my roof is in my opinion tatty. The roof won,t be on view though

 

I said all along, if a vert is wanted, and if no better vert was available , then i would be happy to attend

 

Because i,m aware the car is not as pristine as others attending, it has just come back from 3 days at the detailers and i,m rather excited now

 

Nice one Ian!!

 

In all the years we have met at various events, I have always liked your 'vert; and I know you'll do us proud on the stand. And once again, thanks for stepping up - I shall look forward to seeing you next weekend, sir....:thumbup:

The January thread proved to be largely irrelevant as one of the posters sold his award-winning car!

 

So the thread was revived and volunteers asked for again. Which netted 6 possible cars.

 

6.

 

Six.

 

Not quite the deluge that January's thread brought in.

 

What's your point in all of this? You feel hard done by because you didn't have a say on which cars go on the stand? Worse things happen at sea, and all that...

 

So that justifies it? As a paying subscribed member of this club i do feel I should have a say on matters like this, don't you? I have read many threads in which you yourself have jumped on your soap box over something trivial. Just because this matter doesn't go against your beliefs DO NOT dismiss opinions of others.

So that justifies it? As a paying subscribed member of this club i do feel I should have a say on matters like this, don't you? I have read many threads in which you yourself have jumped on your soap box over something trivial. Just because this matter doesn't go against your beliefs DO NOT dismiss opinions of others.

 

And yet your only contribution to threads regarding the NEC show is to DEMAND that you have a say in which cars are present.

 

Even though I'm fairly certain that, at JAE 2015, you didn't even display your car on the club stand!

 

Mint "Club Spirit" there, sunshine... :thumbup1:

The January thread proved to be largely irrelevant as one of the posters sold his award-winning car!

 

So the thread was revived and volunteers asked for again. Which netted 6 possible cars.

 

6.

 

Six.

 

Not quite the deluge that January's thread brought in.............

 

Very direct Si - but sadly true!

 

And my very reason for starting this thread, nearer the time! We all know how things change over time - and whilst January seemed to offer sufficient notice, the fact is, the number of potential participants had dropped to just six, when the time came to actually step up to the plate!

 

So on behalf of the club, a big thank you to those six people!

 

And by the way, not sure if I have mentioned it earlier in the threat, but until a few weeks ago, we still thought we'd get 5 cars on the stand. However in one of my many conversations with the organisers at the NEC, they advised me that our stand is an odd shape - with a pillar or something in the middle. So on their instruction, we had to reduce that number to 4.....

In my opinion I think we should hunt down the best Zed's like wolves and make sure nobody doesn't miss the thread. It's a visibility problem as well as that people can't make it. I know jonnyboy doesn't go on here often and may have been up for it.

And yet your only contribution to threads regarding the NEC show is to DEMAND that you have a say in which cars are present.

 

Even though I'm fairly certain that, at JAE 2015, you didn't even display your car on the club stand!

 

Mint "Club Spirit" there, sunshine... :thumbup1:

 

So you didn't see my post regarding the NEC in January then? And why we are bringing up jae 2015 I don't know, we aren't women. But since you have I'll tell you why I didn't STAY on the club stand, even though that's where I parked when I arrived, it's because to be openly honest I didn't feel welcomed, Darren from Dasstech asked me to display alongside dans zed to demonstrate a stock zed body against his metal creation on dans zed, I accepted and moved my car, and almost everyone that came over to see our cars from the club agreed how much better our stand was than the club stand, sad but true.

 

Jae 2015 has been widely agreed as a poor club event, have we learned from it? Anyhow this is now getting off topic so I will leave it there.

I'm of the opinion that this show is rather prestigious.

 

Given that the Z32 is not a "recognised classic" yet (to the best of my knowledge, anyway), I think it's a pretty sizeable coup that we have a stand there. Why can't we all just be happy for that...?

 

I find it almost incomprehensible that someone is whinging about not having a say in which cars represent our club, rather than just saying "Yep, four good choices there."

 

Maybe if Chris had put his car forward but been passed over, he'd have a vaguely valid point. But he didn't. So I really don't get the bone of contention here... :blink:

 

And yes, I'd be saying exactly what I'm saying now if I'd been passed over for a place on the stand. In fact, as Richard will be able to confirm, I was halfway towards letting Phutumsch have my place anyway as I felt his Zed would be the cleaner example!

Personally happy with the selection, well nearly, missing the best version the mighty slicktop, so I'd best make sure one of mine is up to standard for next year.

 

Just for the record was 7 lol, had volunteered my blue slicktop as a backup zed... Lol

In my opinion I think we should hunt down the best Zed's like wolves and make sure nobody doesn't miss the thread. It's a visibility problem as well as that people can't make it. I know jonnyboy doesn't go on here often and may have been up for it.

 

Good point Ali - in an ideal world and all that.....! Jonnyboy may not get on here that often, nonetheless he knew about Coventry and made it there!

 

There are also some great Zeds outside the club; there's no doubt about that. But since we sign up "the club" as a show exhibitor, it's the club which gets given free access to the show in return for promoting the show in our (private only) forums. And, without risk of sounding exclusive, this is the UK's main "Z32 only" owner's club, so it stands to reason that we'd seek to show our own member's cars.

 

As the numbers of Z32s dwindle, we should be reaching out to other owners and bringing them into the club. And the NEC show has had some success in doing that - as it has promoted awareness in both the car and the club. That's one real benefit of us being there.....!

Well as the "standby" exhibitor to the show I can only wish the best on those who do so. It is a great show and well

worth participating in. Hopefully next year one of the Club's UK spec cars will get the opportunity to be displayed.

Edited November 5, 20169 yr by AndrewG
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I'm of the opinion that this show is rather prestigious.

 

Given that the Z32 is not a "recognised classic" yet (to the best of my knowledge, anyway), I think it's a pretty sizeable coup that we have a stand there. Why can't we all just be happy for that...?

 

I find it almost incomprehensible that someone is whinging about not having a say in which cars represent our club, rather than just saying "Yep, four good choices there."

 

Maybe if Chris had put his car forward but been passed over, he'd have a vaguely valid point. But he didn't. So I really don't get the bone of contention here... :blink:

 

And yes, I'd be saying exactly what I'm saying now if I'd been passed over for a place on the stand. In fact, as Richard will be able to confirm, I was halfway towards letting Phutumsch have my place anyway as I felt his Zed would be the cleaner example!

 

This is all dead right, Si...!

 

The NEC show is one of the biggest classic car events - and we have been given a stand not one, not two, but three years running. For a small club like ours, it is indeed a coup!

 

Selecting the cars in never easy; and whilst I have said it several times in this thread, yes, we did have more interest back in January. January was only a couple of months after the 2015 NEC show, so it was fresh in people's minds - and yes, a thread or two was started to canvas potential exhibitors. But fast forward to now, and most people who expressed interest in January, did not step up to the mark last month.

 

We have four cars to find - and our members' input was duly acted upon by the addition of different Z32 versions. IE a 'vert and a SWB. Two of the exhibitors won awards (as voted by our members) at Coventry, so by default they are "pre-endorsed." All perfectly democratic, no?

 

We can never please everybody all of the time, but I like to think we do our best; and if anyone has issue with how the club is run, they are free to express their opinions.

 

Again, I would like to thank everybody who did come forward to exhibit at the NEC; and (as it appears) if we missed any potential exhibitors out, when holding the final discussions to chose the remaining two cars, I apologise.

 

All that remains to say is, the show is next weekend. Friday through to Sunday. At the NEC, Birmingham. It's a great show - with loads of fantastic cars from all corners on display. Come along, you'll love it......

 

.......It's all done in the best possible taste.....

Again, point taken Chris....

 

.....But considering the number of volunteers (read this thread from post number 1 and count them mate) - and then consider those who might have withdrawn during the PMs that followed - and you pretty much have the cars that have been chosen.

 

No poor club spirit at all mate. We have 4 spaces - our members have already endorsed 2 of those during the votes at Coventry - so choosing 2 more cars from a final line up of just 2 or 3 people who can 100% definitely commit to the show, does not need a full-on poll when we are pushed for time to book everything!

 

 

just for the record I was not contacted by one on pm if was going ahead or dropping out