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  • lonezedder
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    "Besides, there are better cars out there for the money you guys think I should be spending on one. If I had 5-6k, I'd simply get an evo instead. It's not that far off r33 gtr money either."   Plea

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How am I insulting anyone by explaining why I don't want to spend more than my budget on a zed?

 

 

Besides, there are better cars out there for the money you guys think I should be spending on one. If I had 5-6k, I'd simply get an evo instead. It's not that far off r33 gtr money either.

 

I think it's comments like that that probably get people's backs up.

 

TBH mate, I've seen you posting on here over the past few months and it just reads like a young kid who wants his first BMX, but can't save enough paper round money. Your comments and understanding appear to be very low and you've brushed off most advice.

 

The biggest issue with cars around your budget IS rust, finding one without generally means it's been looked after and therefore will demand a premium.

 

It's just the way it is I'm afraid....don't get members started on running costs either.

 

TBH, I don't think there is much you can get that's better if you view the car for what it was designed as. An Evo? Yeah, I appreciate them, but they aren't pretty by any stretch of the imagination, I have NEVER lusted after them despite their awesome mechanicals. As for Skylines, I could quite easily buy myself an R33GTR and probably stretch to an R34 GTR, but I don't want to. The Z32 is pretty much a retro enthusiast car only now, not a 'fast cheap bargain GT', although for £5k, it isn't exactly expensive.

Edited by Funkysi

I'm capable of fixing cars, so there's no guarantee it'll cost loads of money if I buy a cheap one to fix up, just depends what's wrong with it. The only thing I don't want to take on is rust, and a UK model is more likely to be riddled with it unless it's spent it's entire life hidden away in a garage or been repaired already. Even then, there's no guarantee if it's been repaired well or not.

 

I don't get what's so hard to understand about someone not having a large lump sum up front to throw at an expensive car that may or may not still have hidden issues. If I bought a cheaper one and it did need more later, so what? That's more affordable over time.

 

Besides, there are better cars out there for the money you guys think I should be spending on one. If I had 5-6k, I'd simply get an evo instead. It's not that far off r33 gtr money either.

 

As I've said, my maximum feasible budget is around 4-4.5k all in, for a car that genuinely needs no work. And for that I would want a hell of a lot more than a standard one. Hence why I've not even considered this one.

 

To answer your questions, I've highlighted the relevant parts of your quote. Owners who are far more knowledgeable than you are advising you that your search criteria and budget are unrealistic together, so you're telling us all that "far better cars" can be had.

 

I'm assuming that "far better" actually means "faster", right?

 

But all is not lost. I believe I've found you not one but two Zeds that should suit you down to the ground! :D

 

One belongs to FunkySi and the other belongs to JoelyP. Both are seriously well-maintained examples, both are modified, neither will have any rust whatsoever... sound awesome, right?

 

Now, all you have to do is convince the owners that their respective Zeds are worth no more than £4.5k.....

 

Should I sit comfortably here? Or am I ok to get back on with some work while you hit them with your sales pitch...? ;)

"Besides, there are better cars out there for the money you guys think I should be spending on one. If I had 5-6k, I'd simply get an evo instead. It's not that far off r33 gtr money either."

 

Please remember this is a dedicated 300zx Z32 forum and as such the majority of its members (including myself) own a 300zx because they choose to out of a long term admiration of them. I clapped eyes on back in the early 90's and dreamed of one, I still think they are amazingly beautiful to look at and still a powerhouse techno force to be reckoned with!

They do not own one because they couldn't quite afford a R33 GTR or an EVO!! Far from it, many of our daily drives cost more than those cars.

Better is also very subjective matter.

Tread carefully!

I'd also add that based on your location, I'd certainly be having a look at this UK spec car. Granted you might be wasting your time, it might be a dog, but you just never know it could be a gem!

"Besides, there are better cars out there for the money you guys think I should be spending on one. If I had 5-6k, I'd simply get an evo instead. It's not that far off r33 gtr money either."

 

Please remember this is a dedicated 300zx Z32 forum and as such the majority of its members (including myself) own a 300zx because they choose to out of a long term admiration of them. I clapped eyes on back in the early 90's and dreamed of one, I still think they are amazingly beautiful to look at and still a powerhouse techno force to be reckoned with!

They do not own one because they couldn't quite afford a R33 GTR or an EVO!! Far from it, many of our daily drives cost more than those cars.

Better is also very subjective matter.

Tread carefully!

I have 2 zx's a TT is spent £2200 on a 93 and an 94 NA I bought for £5400. And I'm still spending looking after them.

I'd also add that based on your location, I'd certainly be having a look at this UK spec car. Granted you might be wasting your time, it might be a dog, but you just never know it could be a gem!

It could be, but it's still more than I've got and it's still standard, so will be less fun than the skyline, so wouldn't be much point.

It could be, but it's still more than I've got and it's still standard, so will be less fun than the skyline, so wouldn't be much point.

 

How could a standard Zed possibly be "less fun" than a knackered Skyline...??

 

You've said you have a max budget of £4.5k. Go and have a look at it and, if it's good, offer him £4.5k in cold hard cash.

 

If all you want is some sort of cheap road rocket, you're looking at the wrong car entirely.

I have 2 zx's a TT is spent £2200 on a 93 and an 94 NA I bought for £5400. And I'm still spending looking after them.

I've got no issue spending over time to keep cars going, you have to do that regardless of what sort of car it is. And since I can do most of the work myself anyway, it would be manageable. I even have some parts already from skylines. It's possible, provided I can find a car with no rust. I'm not ignoring anyone, as it may well be a big ask, and I may have to be lucky finding one rust free in my budget, but being judged for trying is a bit uncalled for. I shouldn't have to justify myself all the time.

How could a standard Zed possibly be "less fun" than a knackered Skyline...??

 

You've said you have a max budget of £4.5k. Go and have a look at it and, if it's good, offer him £4.5k in cold hard cash.

 

If all you want is some sort of cheap road rocket, you're looking at the wrong car entirely.

You know what I mean. The skyline had more power than a standard zed, is about 200kg lighter, and also has shorter gearing.

 

The head gasket only went last month, I've been thinking of getting rid of the skyline for a year or two already, and the head gasket is just a good reason to look at something else now. I've already explained that even if I fixed it, it's still worth more in parts, so why bother if I didn't enjoy the car that much in the first place.

*sigh*

 

So you're bored of the Skyline anyway, but can't afford a good Z32.

 

Impreza it is for then! :thumbup1:

 

I honestly think this car isn't for you. You want to own a highly modified, highly maintained example, but only want to pay peanuts for it because "there are better cars out there for the money."

 

My advice? Get yourself one of those "better cars" and pack in insulting the people on here who have a passion for these cars that extends beyond whether it's the fastest thing on the road or not!

. I clapped eyes on back in the early 90's and dreamed of one, I still think they are amazingly beautiful to look at and still a powerhouse techno force to be reckoned with!

 

This is so true, this has been a dream car to own ever since the late 90's when saw my first one. Skylines, evo's etc are all well and good but they just look bog standard compared to a 300zx and may I say even next to my Mk1 MR2 turbo haha! I want a zed because I love them not because I can't afford a boring ol' Skyline/Evo :)

Fishman, what is your CURRENT budget and what EXACTLY is it that you want? I agree with Mondo, I think you want the car for different reasons than those on here who own them.

 

Am I correct in thinking you have £2.5k currently to spend on a TT manual with no rust? If so, keep looking.....Or do you have £4.5k and expect a mag featured 600hp fire breathing animal? Your stories keep changing.

 

I think you should just get an Evo with your £4.5k since it's better anyway....

 

Skyline GTSs are 10 a penny, there are more GTR models than 300zxs, so you can afford to be choosy in that market...this market is VERY different.

If I had the choice, I'd go back and stop myself from selling my mr2 turbo. I'd hoped these cars would feel enough like them to keep me happy with it, low slung, t bar, but have rear seats. I've always liked the look of the zed, but that's my reason why I'm here. Sorry to say there are cars I've wanted more, not trying to offend you guys, but that's just how it is. That said, I lusted after skylines, got one, and was rather disappointed. That's why I'm trying to buy a car with my head instead of my heart this time around.

 

If I get one and love it, then great. But please don't judge me for not being as passionate as you guys just yet. At the moment, it's all about the money, and finding something worth getting for the little I have.

You say your Skyline will be more fun than a standard Zed, right?

 

When the sun's shining, are you able to take the roof off and enjoy the acres and acres of blue skies over your head in your Skyline...?

 

No? Maybe the Zed is "more fun" for a different reason then... ;)

You say your Skyline will be more fun than a standard Zed, right?

 

When the sun's shining, are you able to take the roof off and enjoy the acres and acres of blue skies over your head in your Skyline...?

 

No? Maybe the Zed is "more fun" for a different reason then... ;)

I'll give you that one, it's one of the reasons I'm in the market. :)

At the moment, it's all about the money, and finding something worth getting for the little I have.

 

And here endeth this lesson.

 

As EVERYONE has suggested and keeps suggesting, this is your biggest problem. A: you're trying to do this on a shoestring, B: you want far more than you 'think' you can get.

If I had the choice, I'd go back and stop myself from selling my mr2 turbo.

 

So............why not get a mr2 turbo again £4.5k will get you a lovely example, for example this is currently up for £4200 and is highly modified and running around 300BHP.

 

http://www.imoc.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=180216

 

This isn't a T-bar but you get the idea, plus there's loads about and you'll have no problem finding one.

Edited by Twobrutal

Fishman, what is your CURRENT budget and what EXACTLY is it that you want? I agree with Mondo, I think you want the car for different reasons than those on here who own them.

 

Am I correct in thinking you have £2.5k currently to spend on a TT manual with no rust? If so, keep looking.....Or do you have £4.5k and expect a mag featured 600hp fire breathing animal? Your stories keep changing.

 

I think you should just get an Evo with your £4.5k since it's better anyway....

 

Skyline GTSs are 10 a penny, there are more GTR models than 300zxs, so you can afford to be choosy in that market...this market is VERY different.

My story doesn't keep changing, it's the same one it always has been. I can sell my skyline as is for 2.5k, got several offers at that already. But if I were to break it, provided everything sold, I can increase that to 4-4.5k. My folks have offered to lend me the cash and me pay them back over time, so can have that sum pretty much immediately if the right car pops up.

My story doesn't keep changing, it's the same one it always has been. I can sell my skyline as is for 2.5k, got several offers at that already. But if I were to break it, provided everything sold, I can increase that to 4-4.5k. My folks have offered to lend me the cash and me pay them back over time, so can have that sum pretty much immediately if the right car pops up.

 

But your "wants" are unrealistic on your current budget!! That's what everyone keeps trying to tell you...

 

And I keep trying to tell you that an open-topped sports/GT car is going to have a higher price NOW than it did during the winter. But you don't want to accept that at all!

 

The majority of people on here know far more about Z32s than you do. I know far more about them than you do, and I certainly don't profess to know everything. So when people are telling you that what you want is going to be nigh-on impossible to find on your current budget, you'd do well to listen to them.

So............why not get a mr2 turbo again £4.5k will get you a lovely example, for example this is currently up for £4200 and is highly modified and running around 300BHP.

 

http://www.imoc.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=180216

 

This isn't a T-bar but you get the idea, plus there's loads about and you'll have no problem finding one.

Bloody hell, so they're going up too then! I sold my rev3 turbo for 3.5k nearly 5 years ago, with around that power. UK spec full leather interior, rev1 black roof liner, etc. I had to sell it since I needed rear seats due to having kids, I ended up never end up using the car, so tried getting something I could try to enjoy while still getting them and pushchairs in the back. Hence getting the skyline. Unfortunately I've never enjoyed it.

That's a nice looking MR2, when I first started looking, I said I wanted a black,LWB,manual TT. Fast forward 2 weeks and I'll take whatever comes up haha within reason of course! I can't stretch to a pink Zed though :tt2:

But your "wants" are unrealistic on your current budget!! That's what everyone keeps trying to tell you...

 

And I keep trying to tell you that an open-topped sports/GT car is going to have a higher price NOW than it did during the winter. But you don't want to accept that at all!

 

The majority of people on here know far more about Z32s than you do. I know far more about them than you do, and I certainly don't profess to know everything. So when people are telling you that what you want is going to be nigh-on impossible to find on your current budget, you'd do well to listen to them.

I'm not disputing any of that, or doubting any of you. I'm simply saying I may get lucky by finding one that needs mechanical work instead. From what I've seen of the zeds so far, they're no more complicated than the skyline, sometimes less advanced in fact, and I've fixed a fair few skylines already, so should be able to muddle my way through. Parts appear to be cheaper too.

 

I've said my reasons for my budget and why I refuse to pay any more for the initial cost of the car, why I'm looking at these cars, and what I'm HOPING (not EXPECTING) to get for my money, so can you guys maybe just keep an eye out instead of just giving me shit?

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