Does anyone know what size the outlets are on the HKS style FMIC are? I know the godspeed ones are 2.5"

Autobahn ones are 2.5"

Wonderful that's what I was hoping to hear.

 

^^ That actually looks like the bottom inlets are 2", not 2.5".

 

Harby on here has one.

The Hks style have better tank design for less pressure drop, but don't like the extra piping length needed.

Edited January 30, 201510 yr by jaffa

Im after somthing like this.

Mines a waiting game.

I think its about 24" x10"x3.5" i think.

The Hks style have better tank design for less pressure drop, but don't Luke the extra piping length needed.

 

Not relevant ;)

Im after somthing like this.[ATTACH=CONFIG]85244[/ATTACH]

Mines a waiting game.

 

Yup that's the direction I'm moving in.

How far u getting stephen. Made ur mind up yet.as i cant.

That's the same IC I have, but the 4.5" deep one. It's the only way to do a FMIC properly, though no benefit over the ASHspec SMIC. I only switched to it so I can mount directly in front of the engine

That's the same IC I have, but the 4.5" deep one. It's the only way to do a FMIC properly, though no benefit over the ASHspec SMIC. I only switched to it so I can mount directly in front of the engine

 

There are significant benefits: Less pipework length, no 90° bends, the option to locate it in the engine bay as you are doing it.

There are significant benefits: Less pipework length, no 90° bends, the option to locate it in the engine bay as you are doing it.

 

I'm quoting a conversation I had with Greg @SZ, agreed on no 90deg bends, but piping length is similar

How far u getting stephen. Made ur mind up yet.as i cant.

 

Currently it's all just mental ideas and mind mapping, time is a massive concern presently as the list is already rather long this winter. I'm hoping the switch to a fmic mounted in the old AC rad position will significantly reduce the pipework and subsequently my time where fabricating it is concerned. Otherwise I will plumb for a set of godspeed SMIC and live with the reduction in potential. I need to get it running properly again as my first priority.

Sounds good, welcome to give me a shout if you want to bounce ideas around

Cheers mate, I'm full of ideas that's half the problem. Finally got the car off the floor today though, won't be long now before I make a significant dent in the work load.

I'm quoting a conversation I had with Greg @SZ, agreed on no 90deg bends, but piping length is similar

 

There's a large difference in length of pipework, especially on the cold side. Plus three additional 90° bends per side.

 

Note that this guy has got confused with pipe routing....

 

As it should be:

 

This picture really higlights the ridiculous length of pipework and associated pressure drop that the turbos are required to work harder in order to overcome. Grim :laugh:

 

Compared to....

 

 

The TDM FMIC above is exactly how I've been running my set up for 18 moths, albeit with pipework that is not ideal as it was completed from start to finish in a single day (big up the Silverline).

 

With any FMIC and short dual intake, you can immediately halve the turbo inlet tract.

 

A proper FMIC set up will always be preferable to a SMIC setup. It's well known with every other performance vehicle, the Zed is no exception. By "proper FMIC set up", I mean similar to the TDM item, with air filters situated down where the SMIC reside with no 90° bends under the headlights. Simply not possible with SMIC, no matter how "B.A." :wack:

 

Rather than build a custom set up, people just make do with eBay items and stock 2" IC pipework. Only in this situation would a massive pair of SMIC with the 2.5" pipework be preferable.

 

The intercoolers I've run on various turbocharged 4 cylinder engines have been the same size as a typical Zed front mount, usually 3" pipework. The difference being all that was for a single turbo, from a T28 to a T78 and anything inbetween. The VG is no exception as far as I'm aware. It's just the Z32 engine bay makes things difficult.

 

Cheers mate, I'm full of ideas that's half the problem. Finally got the car off the floor today though, won't be long now before I make a significant dent in the work load.

 

I've a good idea of what's needed and how I'm going to set up my own car based on what has worked for countless other vehicles, building upon my own Zed setup with stock Auto turbos, and of course the many Zed power curves & tuning results I have stockpiled. I've already done away with the entire inlet pipework by going to a blow-through set up (although this type of setup needs evaluating fully), next is to maximise the intercooling capabilities. Then lots & lots of dyno testing. Well, that's the plan I have in mind. A single inlet plenum would be nice, but I need to work with the stock one for some time yet, as that is what people use :D

If I go this way this winter I take it it won't even run right, would it be best to trailer the car to you or to have you burn a starting point onto an ecu then drive it to you? I'm guessing the former is far safer.

If I go this way this winter I take it it won't even run right, would it be best to trailer the car to you or to have you burn a starting point onto an ecu then drive it to you? I'm guessing the former is far safer.

 

Define this way? It'll run fine with fmic where you're suggesting, still need a tune for max attack.

If I go this way this winter I take it it won't even run right, would it be best to trailer the car to you or to have you burn a starting point onto an ecu then drive it to you? I'm guessing the former is far safer.

 

It all depends on the intake setup. Will it be single intake single MAF, dual intake with Selin or without?

Duel intake, not selin if that's possible. Plus I'm quite torn on wether to utilise some 500cc jecs out a scooby now or later.

It all depends on the intake setup. Will it be single intake single MAF, dual intake with Selin or without?

 

noz can you explain the pros and cons of duel maff duel intakes and single maff single intake ?

Im thinking of buying the ashpec 2.5"inlet for now and using it untell i get the fmic i want. Then use this with the larger ford 150 maff and a twin filter 3.5 intake set up whitch was desingned to feed a 5.7ltr v8 and have the intake down near were the stock smic go. I am wanting a fmic and and will wait tell it comes along.that said i have asked already one person in norwich to build me one.as the same spec as the tdm one.so far ive been quoted just over 575 quid so far.i have to more people yet to ask next week.then theres the pipework .i recone if you bought the first bit from the turbo.then it shouldnt be to hard to make up the rest using 2.5"pipwork bought as just standalone pipe kits you can buy.apparently you can do it with just two kits costing around eighty pounds each.then when im ready for the mapping ect. I thing having no maff in the picture and have two short bits of pipe straght down to the origanal smic place.one off the reasons why i have now bought a nistune of of Noel.

[ATTACH=CONFIG]85271[/ATTACH use these first then sell once finished with.

using this sort of set up but not using the intercooler bendy bits.and you see the intake just a bit of straght pipe on the outsides.you get the udea.anyway.

That tdm intercooler is like $2500!

More like $1850 with piping, which is not much more than ash spec ic & 2.5" piping