http://www.a1-terraclean.co.uk/

 

Whats the thoughts on this?

I would have thought this could lead to all sorts of compression problems on an older car?

 

Is it worth doing?

Looks interesting...... I would like to find out more about this..... would / could Mark speak to the company and see if they would demo on a Z???

Seen this on wheeler dealers, did make a significant difference in omissions

it does work z shop japan have one and couple of tvr specialists in uk also

 

not many people have as equipment is really expensive but yes its good

if you knock all that carbon of a clean piston though are you not asking for compression problems?

 

I believe its about £300 but will make some enquiries if its safe and not going to open up a can of woopass on my car.. lol

 

ive a 530d msport thats now got 110K on it and was thinking about getting this done.. just worried about internal damage..

if you knock all that carbon of a clean piston though are you not asking for compression problems?

 

I believe its about £300 but will make some enquiries if its safe and not going to open up a can of woopass on my car.. lol

 

ive a 530d msport thats now got 110K on it and was thinking about getting this done.. just worried about internal damage..

 

not really non of the new engines ive assembled had carbon in them :)

just kidding with ya only ever heard good things to be honest it is aimed at the higher mileage cars but cant hut to all that crap out the engine without having to take it apart

Nice one.. Ill get some prices and see how it goes... they reckon on some decent mpg jumps....

Have already tried it on my mums Avensis (51 plate) so although low mileage at about 45K it has only really had local mileage running so a good carbon candidate for a clean.

 

Failed it's MOT on emissions and as I wanted to try Terraclean before doing the rest of the cars and vans, decided to give it a try. To be honest the garage doing the job, seemed a little clueless, the did't do there own CO2 print out before they started, instead relying on the MOT station report and then failed to connect the fuel bypass properley causing a leak of the Pure fuel feed from the machine over the hot engine!!!...stood well back:blink:

 

So firstly it will cost about £100-£120 for a Z to be treated, The fuel system is the only part to be cleaned so engine internals etc, and the most obvious change would be the engine was obvioulsy quieter after the 40 minute treatment. The car certainly felt smoother and a little more responsive, but then some of these things can be almost subliminal because you want it to be better!

 

My Mum, has felt the car is more responsive and quieter, but no reports yet on consumption improvement, as for the CO2, the car did improve significantly as you would expect on a £100 quid treatment.

 

Is it worth it? well I have no doubt that it improves and cleans the car engine and firing components, as for whether it may reduce compression, because of carbon removal? well I would rather know the engine was clean and operating more efficiently, then choked up with carbon, which compression or not would reduce performance.

 

It doesn't matter whether a Z is tested or any other car, as results will differ on every vehicle due to original engine condition, age, maintenance etc

 

I looked into getting the possibility of a franchise for this system, but as yet no one from the company has got back to me, and I think the two types of entry into supporting Terraclean (both expensive) may force some franchises to the door as I don't think there is that much uptake after the Hype. I believe Terraclean want £10k for the machine (petrol or diesel) and charge about £20-£25 per consumable! or a lease deal on the Machine and higher consumable cost is the other option. So the cost of the clean is not because of the technology involved but the cost of the hardware....

 

I have no invested interest in my following suggestion (although I am thinking about doing so) but after the Terraclean I spoke to the Garage who look after my Vans and after discussing the merits of Terraclean, he suggested I try another sauce that he supplied...here we go, i thought, another magic potion!

 

Having explained that this is a fuel additive (forget Redex et all) which, you add to the fuel tank which then emulsifies all the water droplets in the tank and then runs right through the fuel system and exhaust, removing all the rust and water deposits on route, and at the same time stripping the carbon from the engine and exhaust, I felt for ony £15 was worth a try!

 

The only issue I had concerns on, was that Terraclean is an immediate result (good or not so good) but he assured me that within a few miles I would start to notice a difference, so for £15 it was worth a shot. I have tried it first on my Movano van, which has sounded like a bag of nails and always rough started, then following those results I have added it to my BMW E39 and The Passat Estate, results are astonishing!!

 

The Movano, is substantially quieter and smoother to drive, I am certainly using less fuel and the engine pick up and percformance have definatley improved.

 

The BMW 525D has always had a slightly rough idle and hesitancy in initial pick up and despite many additives off the shelf, cleaning the plenum and EGR, this was going to be next for the Terraclean, however this additive has given the engine a new lease of life, running at least 500rpm lower than previously and 70-80mph (30mph @ 900rpm) the engine start is immediate and it is s smooth and quiet!

 

The Passat is a 150k ex fleet on an 06 plate and not been particuarly well recently, however the result of the additive were perhaps the most significant of all the vehicles as with about 4 miles of leaving the garage arriving home, the wife said what a good job they had done on the engine as it felt smoother. (at this point i hadn't told her about the additiive or that the garage hadn't touched the engine) The Passat after 10-20 miles was a different car, smoother, much quicker and more economical.

 

So the Sauce i'm talking about is from a company called Tec 2000, I have no involvement in the company, but am now a fan, my point of this response is that Terraclean cost about £15-£20 for the basic consumables, the rest in, marketing and margin, it only cleans the fuel system, but does appear to work and the results are immediate.

 

Tec 2000, cost in raw consumables is about £15 and cleans from fuel tank to exhaust tailpipe and you might have to wait a several miles for the results to start appearing and a second fill up by the time the Additive has done it's complete process, but I have tried both now and there are merits for both systems, but at that price point and the results I have had, I will be using Tec 2000 before I venture further and spend more for alternative results.

 

This is there website if you want further information http://www.tec-2000.co.uk/tec2000/tec2000.php

 

I make no bones about the fact I might be looking to sell there products because I see benefits in other automotive areas that I am involved in, so may well end up being able to source these for forum, but the website is there and I am sure they will provide you with a list of dealers who can supply if anyone is interested...however if you get stuck, I can pick some up from my Garage and forward on.

 

Well worth a try, before you look at expensive alternatives.

 

Steve

Cheers Steve.. great thread....Ill have a good read through that later....

http://www.a1-terraclean.co.uk/

 

Whats the thoughts on this?

I would have thought this could lead to all sorts of compression problems on an older car?

 

Is it worth doing?

 

personally i agree Kev that removing certain deposits in high milers is a no no.Looks a gimmick to me.I did see it on wheeler dealers and if im honest i laughed.

Just found the tec 2000 on eBay (200937412212), might give it a go, my zed not really high mileage 72k......

 

Opinions ?? :)

The write up.. If Jim laughed Ill probably keep my pennies in my pocket.. as I say I was going to put it in my daily..

 

FUEL SYSTEM CLEANER – TANK ADDITIVE MANUFACTURED TO BS EN ISO 9002 SPECIFICATIONS

TEC-2000 LTD.

PH: 01462-433 660

Cleans entire Fuel System by removing any moisture build-up in the fuel tank and its strengthened

FAX: 01462-433 606 solvent package cleans injectors and injecMtoOrB:nozzle0s7,83th1-e10r5e3b8y6 improving the atomisation and spray

pattern of the injected fuel. The product thus improves combustion and fuel efficiency while helping to reduce the effects of water build-up. The high concentration of the sophisticated additive package will clean up areas such as valve and piston deposits, lamda sensors and catalytic exhaust converters, after combustion.

Water build up can cause “phase separation” of the octane boosters in modern lead free fuels and this will affect the power output and running characteristics of the vehicle. When used regularly, (2 or more times per year) the composition of TEC-2000 Fuel System Cleaner - Tank Additive helps reduce any moisture build up in the fuel system, helps clean away upper cylinder deposits and deposits on valves and valve stems and prevent partial blocking of injectors. Cleaning of the lamda sensor allows the electronic brain to “see” what is happening during combustion and make the necessary adjustments to the fuel/air ratios which effect emissions, power delivery and economy of the vehicle. Additionally, TEC-2000 Fuel System Cleaner - Tank Additive will reduce upper cylinder wear and reduce deposits on catalytic converters. Often it will eliminate the characteristic "rotten egg" smell associated with deposits on catalytic exhaust converters. The product will also be effective in carburettored vehicles.

What it is

TEC-2000 Fuel System Cleaner - Tank Additive is a multi-functional fuel system cleaner, which benefits the entire fuel system for the petrol engine. The formulation has been tried and tested, all over the world, for many years, but is regularly subjected to technical updates. The technology behind the active ingredients is sourced from the United States of America and the final formulation is arguably the most effective of its type available in the world today. The product will not damage catalytic exhaust converters.

How to use it.

The product should be used with regular servicing as a preventative to clean all the above mentioned areas once or twice a year. TEC-2000 Fuel System Cleaner - Tank Additive should be added to the fuel tank of the vehicle.

Where it is required to cure an existing problem relating to suspected injector fouling, TEC-2000 Fuel Injector Cleaner should be used, as directed.

Well that's that then! If Jimmer laughed we shouldn't believe... Sorry but my thread response was based on trial and results of both tecs.

 

I believe Terraclean is probably a more aggressive treatment for carbon removal and may indeed produce some after treatment results that may affect and poorly maintained or worn engine, where'as the Tec 2000 is a emulsifying treatment that cleans deposits and moisture from the fuel tank to the exhaust, not just the engine from fuel filter.

 

Neither are miracle cures for an engine that's got problems, but I carboned up engine will not operate valves and firing in any efficient manner, so if a treatment sorts it out, then why not.

 

Anyway each to their own, I tried it, not laughed at it and so far the results have been excellent in particular for the cheaper Tec 2000.

which treatment should I try in the diesel then Steve? ill give it a go for a tenner...

 

might cost me £2K in engine bills later.. lmao...

Is this not similar to sea foam treatments etc?

For the money, the results I've had from the Tec 2000 products has been significant and not least because the results were noticeable quickly.

 

For me Terraclean is an aggresive carbon and fuel cleaner, which may I guess cause issues in some cars, but only for the fact these cars are already inefficient due to the level of wear that carbonisation has been able to find a home!

 

Tec 2000 is a fuel immulsifier and is designed in part to remove the moisture from the fuel tank and fuel path which gathers over time from the various temp changes in garages fuel tanks as well as our own.

Because the water is seperate from the fuel it creates burn issues in the fuel as well as well as corrosion along the fuel Path. The product allows the water and moisture in the system to be burnt off and in turn breaks down the fuel path of rust debris creating a cleaner delivery .

 

The second part of the treatment is a cleaner for the injectors, valves and cylinders, but mort importantly the air mixture burn allows the treatment up de carbon the exhaust, cats to the tail.

 

It's hard to imagine that a simple additive used ideally at service intervals and perhaps twice a year can do so much, but certainly my results are way better than I expected and I am sure by the second tank of fuel after all the moisture has gone will complete the process.

 

Sorry for the long winded response, but for me it's a Tenner well spent, before you go for a more aggresive solution if needed.

 

Steve

Just had it done on my 2003 Laguna 2.0 Turbo wow its good gone from 32 MPG to 40 MPG and so smooth and goes like a turbo should, I had it done free as my mate have just started dong it. He said he will not do cars over 80,000 and diesels. His prices start from £60 to do my Laguna would of cost £90....

Back to back comparisons or before and after results are always nice, know to at least two zeds that have done the terraclean process recently with good results, much better emissons, pick up and mpg.

 

Was something we had considered at Zedworld in the past however maybe something Mark may take on in time.

 

Jeff ex Zedworld

Edited July 7, 201312 yr by JeffTT

Just had it done on my 2003 Laguna 2.0 Turbo wow its good gone from 32 MPG to 40 MPG and so smooth and goes like a turbo should, I had it done free as my mate have just started dong it. He said he will not do cars over 80,000 and diesels. His prices start from £60 to do my Laguna would of cost £90....

 

Precisely bud, because of removing carbon thats probaly helping the engine seal,My mate worked at Jaguar for years and they never flushed any engines over 80k for this reason.

Found this tread, so not to open a new one. My hydraulic valve lifters are pretty loud, on US nico forum I found a product that Z1 recommends Xtreme Clean Engine Flush. Z1 stated that they had a lot of success in using that oil to quiet down valves lifters. Searching for a similar product in europe I found TEC 2000 engine cleaner. On Alfa forum here, lots of guys used it and almost all had a success (high mileage and low mileage engines). Both with fuel & injector cleaner and engine internals cleaner. One of them had his compression checked before and after treatment, here is what he had:

 

Cyl 1: 7,1 bar

Cyl 2: 8,5 bar

Cyl 3: 6,5 bar

Cyl 4: 6,3 bar

 

after:

 

Cyl 1: 12 bar

Cyl 2: 12 bar

Cyl 3: 12,5 bar

Cyl 4: 12 bar

 

Theory behind this is that TEC 2000 removes carbon buildup on piston compression rings allowing them to fully expand and therefore allow for better compression. Owner of that car was just WOW. Other guys didn't do a compression test so no results from them. But all confirmed better engine response on gas and smoother running. Except one guy, few days later he had a huge lose of compression on one cylinder and started burning oil in that cylinder. But that guy had problems with his engine in start and for a long time suspected that mehanic working on assembling of his engine had done a lousy job. He still didn't disassemble engine to find what went wrong. Also there was an owner of Nissan Sunny that had loud valve lifters after 10 min of this stuff they quieted down, tick is not 100% gone but it's almost unnoticeable now.

 

Owners using TEC 2000 fuel and injectors product had problems with rough idle, hesitation in rev range, etc.. All reported much smoother start ups and running. But almost all had to replace fuel filter as it got clogged after usage and two guys had rattling inside cat, most likely cat burned trough. Obviously this is a potent stuff. But it doesn't has to used in strongest form, it can be used on full of half full gas tank diluting it in higher ratio, what many did.

 

I'm planing to buy TEC 2000 engine cleaner to try to get rid of valve tick. Since I didn't do a compression test on my engine this is a convenient moment to do it, so I will do it before and after and I'm hoping to quiet down lifters.

 

I'm not an big engine guru, so I'm interested did anyone used this in a TT engine. And is there something about TT engine that should make me concerned. Any advice is welcomed.

Hi Mate, I did give it a go in a Volvo XC70, car was 5 years old with 50K miles on it.. becasue of the comments i filled the tank first and then put in the additive.. Have to admit, didnt notice a difference but i didnt do any checks.. its not expensive so was going to give it another when the tank was much lower.. I called tec2000 for distributors in the UK etc and the service was pretty pants... I ended up buying it from ebay.

 

Let me know how you get on...

I noticed a change in engine performance on my Van and VW quite quickly, but then added it to only a quarter tank (impatient, LOL) No negative issues since!