Its come to my attention over time thats parts for our cars are hard source and expensive. Availability of quality kit is poor from within the uk and oem parts are dropping off the availability list like flys. Being an entusiast club part of our responsibility is to ensure the marque is represented and preserved. A serious prerequiset to this is availability of parts. Most other cars have many pattern parts available, and aftermarket stuff, we simply dont. I do not wish to pick on anyone but compare our z part retailers to those in the us or oz, zcentre is tiny, its not even affilated with the owners club! Not to mrntion the price. Getting onto the twinz range, that cannot be sorted.

It's a sad state that the 3rd? Biggest ownership worldwide cannot produce a sustainable and progress range of parts, that we have to make international orders to a country on the otherside of the world to get things of decent quality, and price. I applaud companies like sfs for making good parts for us, but I think its high time we started brain storming a better way that the current reliance on the us.

So how do we move forward? How do we push the z32 out of this stagnent position of poor parts, high prices and poor availability. Theres enough.of us at the end of the day. How do we move the club away from the screen and into an owners club, are we the offical uk zxclub? Is there even one? I know this sounds like a rant but I want to still own my z in 20 years time

Its high time the z comunity raised its profile.

I'm new to the forum and zeds so I can't really offer much on whats been said already.

 

I definately agree on a database of OEM parts/part numbers/common (shared parts) I know when I've spoken to Nissan UK dealers all of the part numbers I've tried from http://nissan4u.com seem to be recognised so that could be a good starting point. Availability will be a massive task to find out & keep up to date I suppose.

 

As mentioned, cross forum group buys are also an excellent way of getting parts cheaper. Before the Z I had a Honda Prelude and we would work out group buys with other prelude and honda forums (and other models such as civic forums if the parts were relevent), and also pass traders who were initiating group buys on to the other forums. This got some massive savings due to the amount of people taking part.

Edited April 8, 201312 yr by Adam D

Ermmm dunno what to day to all this jazz,

 

My view...

 

The club and the zed -- stuck in 1864 and that's the way the zed is also looked at an perceived in the "scene" in both style & tuning...end of the day no one over here has ever understood the zed and all today's tuning is built upon myths lies an urban scary monster legends.

And as a club we have to break away from that.......only way to do that is go to meets events an support an show people all Zeds are not blown up sat in a garage or on the back of an AA truck.

 

Parts--shit crap nothing...yeas japspeed..good but end of the day it's at the bottom of the scale of performance brands an more value for money, as others have said I truly have no idea why we don't have US,OZ and even japland manufactures on our forum...when the zed is a small market anyway you would think they would jump at the chance.

 

300zx.co.uk----everyone knows it , it's here ...no point shooting your self in the foot an confusing ppl and search engines.

 

 

Errm that's it for now

Merchandise!

 

I'd love a 300zx.co.uk (or 300zx Owners Club lol) fleece, personalised with my forum name & trader details. Polo shirts, caps, umbrellas etc.

Everyone sees the Z32 is an unreliable untunable beast. Tuners I know will not work on them. That filters down, and people aren't interested, hence they change hands for minimal amounts and are looked upon with fear :laugh:

 

In the US/Oz, people understand what the cars are capable of, and realise the engines are comparable with the RB & 2JZ, hence worth proper money. I've said it before and I'll say it again (whilst risking sounding like a biased record), the lack of proper tuning in the UK has been very damaging for the Z32 here. Can still count on one hand the number of Zeds with aftermarket ECUs (that I know of). Even back in the day, how many people fitted a Power FC or just went with a generic chip & boost jets / welding tips [ATTACH=CONFIG]69720[/ATTACH]

I don't know if I'm on my own here, but one of the main reasons I bought a 300ZX was because it remains free of all this tuning/modifying bullshit. This is not the type of thing we want to attract.

I don't know if I'm on my own here, but one of the main reasons I bought a 300ZX was because it remains free of all this tuning/modifying bullshit. This is not the type of thing we want to attract.

 

The club is for all Z32 owners mate whether they want to modify them or not. Always has been and always will be.

I don't know if I'm on my own here, but one of the main reasons I bought a 300ZX was because it remains free of all this tuning/modifying bullshit. This is not the type of thing we want to attract.

 

Seriously? They've been modified from day one in every domestic market they've been released in :huh: It's one of the most modified cars on the planet, be that right or wrong.

 

I understand someone wishing to keep theirs standard, I had a 99% stock low mileage Zed and it was lovely. Zeds are indeed afflicted with bad bodykit syndrome, but properly modifying & tuning a car is far from "bullshit". I take it you've heard of Nismo, Nissan's own in-house tuning company....

Merchandise!

 

I'd love a 300zx.co.uk (or 300zx Owners Club lol) fleece, personalised with my forum name & trader details. Polo shirts, caps, umbrellas etc.

 

Thats what the new club shop is designed for, new merchandise.

Thats what the new club shop is designed for, new merchandise.

 

Club shop? I searched a while back looking for fleeces but couldn't find anything.

Seriously? They've been modified from day one in every domestic market they've been released in :huh: It's one of the most modified cars on the planet, be that right or wrong.

 

I understand someone wishing to keep theirs standard, I had a 99% stock low mileage Zed and it was lovely. Zeds are indeed afflicted with bad bodykit syndrome, but properly modifying & tuning a car is far from "bullshit". I take it you've heard of Nismo, Nissan's own in-house tuning company....

Yes, a lot of them are modified, however the question I'm asking is do we really want those kind of people here?

 

I have heard of NISMO, but as far as I know they didn't do any development work with the 300ZX.

That's a wind up isn't it?

Yes, a lot of them are modified, however the question I'm asking is do we really want those kind of people here?

 

I have heard of NISMO, but as far as I know they didn't do any development work with the 300ZX.

 

That's funny (I'm assuming you are in fact joking and bringing some levity to the thread).

 

"Those kind of people...." Classic :D

Disclaimer: I can only comment with experience on the modifying/tuning side of things, as that is what I know about. The logistics of parts replication & supply, forum politics & other topics raised in this thread, I know nothing about. So if my posts sound very focused on one particular aspect of Zed ownership, that is because they are :laugh:

 

You beat me too it last 3 years, theres been I count 5 proper media entries in the car mags, thats it, look at how many fd, skyline and supra hell honda guff there is, every mag every month

What was done with top gear was great, however, it was some time ago now and the subsequent feature should the car as reliable but.... A pornstars car, a poormans porsche, slower round a track than a renault twingo....

As for the club naming, if thats the case why has everything got .co.uk on it? Maybe its this has been lost over time?i really getting nissan to officalise the club would be a great step forward.

as for the other points il take them on board and have a think, remember these were simply suggestion I quickly drummed up.

In seriousness though, I believe the key here is improve the club profile, increase members and club affiliation, this will bring in more owners, once we have the numbers we will have the power, parts will come in suit as a result.

As for the comments about modded zeds this club welcome all z owners regaurdless if its yuk looking or not.

LOL - 41 minutes from your previous post..... Give us a chance to read and digest it mate!!!

 

 

 

Yes - only the thread starter and mods/committee can see who has viewed a thread.....

 

.....And believe me, it's a good one!! As Gary says, "we're working on it" but we can only really progress things with input and feedback from the members. Just like this thread - so keep it coming guys.....

 

Richard:biggrin:

 

Thankyou for your input richard, im really hoping some positive things come out of this. I also hope the comittee realises im not just spitting my dummy having a moan and expecting it all to be done by someone else, my email is currently being overworked speaking to different people about different idea.

Top secret !!

 

Actually its still getting designed but hopefully I'll get it launched shortly.

 

club shop? I searched a while back looking for fleeces but couldn't find anything.

Top secret !!

 

Actually its still getting designed but hopefully I'll get it launched shortly.

 

Any chance od discussing the rep system being simplified etc?

I'm with Alex, with all plastic that gets stuck to the 300zx and the boy racer image it depicts I'm sure anyone that doesn't know the car would think it's a kit car. So how will it ever build up a following with the true enthusiast. Maybe theirs the tuning side to the club and theirs a side that likes the 300zx as it came from Nissan.

 

Paul

Full details of the rep system and how it works are in this thread :

 

http://www.300zx.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?167111-Forum-Reputation-System-Explained

 

Any chance od discussing the rep system being simplified etc?

I'm with Alex, with all plastic that gets stuck to the 300zx and the boy racer image it depicts I'm sure anyone that doesn't know the car would think it's a kit car. So how will it ever build up a following with the true enthusiast. Maybe theirs the tuning side to the club and theirs a side that likes the 300zx as it came from Nissan.

 

Paul

 

Are you one of the people that likes how the car came from Nissan? If so is that your zed in the sig pic? Where have your standard rims gone?

 

There is of course a lot of crap body parts out there that get stuck to Zeds and a crowd that enhances their Zeds is either one wrong? I think people are far too critical when it comes to other people's Zeds and like to make noise maybe this is what stops growth as these people then disappear cos they think **** that I'm just gonna enjoy my zed on my own with the few people that I know that aren't on the forum.

Are you one of the people that likes how the car came from Nissan?

Yes

 

I think people are far too critical when it comes to other people's Zeds and like to make noise maybe this is what stops growth as these people then disappear cos they think **** that I'm just gonna enjoy my zed on my own with the few people that I know that aren't on the forum.

It's certainly the case that many people who like stock or unmodded can get put off by the very vocal modding fraternity and many of us just either wander away or keep schtum. Some of the reactions here are a case in point.

Yes

 

 

It's certainly the case that many people who like stock or unmodded can get put off by the very vocal modding fraternity and many of us just either wander away or keep schtum. Some of the reactions here are a case in point.

 

As i said is either one wrong or are you so against the modding fraternity however minimal it may be ie different wheels that you wouldnt go to a car show because of this? Alot of us can agree that poorly fitting fibreglass parts is not the best look for a zed but surely people should be allowed to express their uniqueness and ideas without getting told everytime that people hate the look that they have chosen. There is alot of threads about of people showing off mods that i think look terrible but its their car they can crack on with it and try something different. Partly the reason that i have no build threads up as i dont want a list of responses saying have you thought about this or i wouldnt use those turbos and such. Im just happy to tinker away in my workshop and build my zed with a little help from the people who know their stuff.

From a manufacturers point of view with new parts it boils down to 2 things;

 

1) How many will we sell to cover costs

2) Do I know what they need

 

So from the SFS point of view unless I had a Z we wouldn't of developed the 5 new hose kits or scuttle panels. It's only because I know the cars and the club. Developing new parts cost time and money so we need to know we will make what you need and sell enough to cover these costs and make a profit.

 

So how does this relate to how we can improve things, there is a long list of parts needed so maybe draw up a list and group them into product types like exhaust, panels, brakes etc and then decide what we need most be it upgrades or just to keep our cars going. Then maybe a newly appointed "Parts developer" approaches a manuafcturer of said parts to open dialog about what we need and what they can offer.

 

We developed the scuttles as I know the OE ones rot and because of the group buy, that was enough to cover the set up but we now need to sell more to move into profit. We've developed loads of kits because clubs have approached us and started dialog and a GB develops, they get the parts, we sell enough to cover the set up.

 

Bottom line is

If they don't know about us they can't make it annd if we don't ask we don't get.

Are you one of the people that likes how the car came from Nissan? If so is that your zed in the sig pic? Where have your standard rims gone?]

 

Hi Gonzo, putting different wheels on a car does not change the overall shape of a car, I think most people on this site would agree it's one of the best mods you can do. This car has many mods on it including an after market front spoiler but it still retains the 300zx shape and cannot be confused with any other Marque.

 

I have no problem with any member doing what he wants with his car, if I don't like what they have done to there car I do not comment on it, in fact these cars will help deplete the 300zx numbers and make them even more scarce making them more collectable and there will be lots more spare parts. We can see this already happening to cars now as soon as you bond a body kit on you have made it personal to you, and possibly not so desirable to others, so after a few weeks up for sale on ebay and the like, the car is up for being broken, so one less Zed on the road.

 

I hope no one takes any comments I've made to heart, I'm only saying as I see it.

 

Paul

 

Waits for rapid fire:2guns:

Ok then i misunderstood you when you said `as it came from Nissan`. So wheels are ok what about air filter or is that too boy racer? I think you see my point there is a vast difference from a few mods and personal taste to totally changing the look of a zed with new lights, bumpers, spoiler and the rest of the crap that is out there. I think we agree to some degree however i think there is other people that actually go as far as to say that nothing should be changed on the car and it should be totally standard with standard rims and the lot.

 

As for these cars becoming scarce and becoming more collectable i cant see this happening. DO we not see this on countless for sale threads where zeds just dont sell so i doubt there will suddenly be more people that want them. Having tried to sell 2 zeds now with no real luck i dont think it is going to change. Ive said it before in other plafces when you ask for 4k plus for a zed you are into RX7 and skyline territory. Anything trying to break 6k gets into R33 GTR territory and to compete against that you will need a very nice, sensibly modded zed otherwise it will be another boy racer looking machine that you was talking about with a mismatched bodykit.

Yes

 

 

It's certainly the case that many people who like stock or unmodded can get put off by the very vocal modding fraternity and many of us just either wander away or keep schtum. Some of the reactions here are a case in point.

 

vocal modding fraternity? in honesty id say cars with body mods are now well in the minority, that fashion has been and gone, lairy body kits are a thing of the past and rightly so.

Totally agree with your first part, but air filters don't change the shape of a car so you have one of those lol.

 

Not many of these cars are coming into this country now, many are off the road never to see tarmac again ( not having a dig at anyone in this situation ) times are tough and these cars are not the cheapest to run and maintain. Plus with the dreaded tin worm these cars are slowly vanishing from our roads plus the few cars involved written off in accidents.

 

How many 300's in the country do we have any numbers.

 

How many being broken at any one time?

 

Am talking B*llocks, this does not require an answer lol