Does anyone have a Racelogic traction control system installed with the analog control box with the launch button on it? if so can i ask a big favor, is there any chance you can take the back off the control box and see what the rear of the button is like, i want to add the launch button to mine, which if im correct is just a momentary switch.

 

I know i can get the analog control box with the button already on for £65 from racelogic, which would make it a plug and play affair, but if its just a button i need, then i see no point in spending out that much, just for a button. would also need the pin it connects too on the racelogic ECU.

 

This is the same control box i have.

 

 

This is the control box with the launch button on it.

 

 

Just need to know if there is anything special about the button being used and what pins on the racelogic ecu it needs to connect too to make it work. i know the software is the same, as it is a plug and play affair, i just cant see the point in spending £65 if its just a button i need.

Give them a ring mate, I did when I was struggling with mine. They are very helpful and will tell you what you want to know.

 

http://www.racelogic.co.uk/index.php/en/contact

Give them a ring mate, I did when I was struggling with mine. They are very helpful and will tell you what you want to know.

 

http://www.racelogic.co.uk/index.php/en/contact

 

they are not going to tell me how to modify their own product lol, they just want me to purchase a new control unit for it. i know because i have already asked.

Wierd, they told me how to make a shift light out of mine. Did you speak to a salesman or a techy?

Wierd, they told me how to make a shift light out of mine. Did you speak to a salesman or a techy?

 

They will tell you how to make a shift light out of it, as you can use the original LED that it comes with, no real modify at all, im on about adding a button that controls launch control that costs £65 to buy from them. trust me they are not going to tell me how to modify it.

 

They say it cant be done, but there is a webpost on a scooby site that says he did it, what he doesn't say, and what no one asked, is how he did it. Now i would join to ask, but the post is old and i doubt the guy is still on the forum, considering he hasn't logged in since 2006 lol, all i need is for someone with that button on their analog launch control to unscrew the 4 Philips head screws off the back off it, and tell me if its just a bog standard button, or if there is some magic in there that needs something more than just wiring in 2 wires and a button. Or even better, open the back and take a photo.

The other thing to find out is if the TC unit itself has the software required in it to make sense of the switch in the control unit.

 

Fortunately, there seems to be an easy way to find out:

 

http://www.racelogic.co.uk/Forum/showthread.php?907-Traction-controll-Launch-Feature-No-work&p=4107&viewfull=1#post4107

 

Post #2

 

"To check to see if it is the button, simply turn the rotary dial to Off and then back to working again, this

does exactly the same thing as pressing the switch, so it will eliminate it from the equation"

 

-Andrew

The other thing to find out is if the TC unit itself has the software required in it to make sense of the switch in the control unit.

 

Fortunately, there seems to be an easy way to find out:

 

http://www.racelogic.co.uk/Forum/showthread.php?907-Traction-controll-Launch-Feature-No-work&p=4107&viewfull=1#post4107

 

Post #2

 

"To check to see if it is the button, simply turn the rotary dial to Off and then back to working again, this

does exactly the same thing as pressing the switch, so it will eliminate it from the equation"

 

-Andrew

 

Not an option as its currently unplugged not plumbed into the car, having recently changed my engine bay wiring loom. haven't had the weather to be sat cutting up my injector wires from the ECU to reinstall it.

 

Also, just want to know if i can actually fit a button, rather than turning it "on" then "off" each time, the box might also be made up differently to accommodate the button, the software however, does have the launch control already on it, confirmed by racelogic.

 

I was hoping to find out before i re plumb it all in, as that way i wont have to disturb it all again. if i can indeed just "add" a button and a few wires.

The other thing to find out is if the TC unit itself has the software required in it to make sense of the switch in the control unit.

 

Fortunately, there seems to be an easy way to find out:

 

http://www.racelogic.co.uk/Forum/showthread.php?907-Traction-controll-Launch-Feature-No-work&p=4107&viewfull=1#post4107

 

Post #2

 

"To check to see if it is the button, simply turn the rotary dial to Off and then back to working again, this

does exactly the same thing as pressing the switch, so it will eliminate it from the equation"

 

-Andrew

 

hmm. right, so turn the rotary dial to off, then to on, is basically the same as pressing the switch.

 

So if we go by the pictures.

 

Box with out button

 

 

 

and box with button

 

 

Well as the box with out (mine) has red green and blue wires, and the box with, has Red green and blue wires, so hence no other wires, i can only assume that its just a momentary button, that stops the power from the control unit to the racelogic ECU for a split second and lets the ECU know, its now in launch mode.

Can you take the back off your control unit? I have an idea of how they may doing this with three wires.

 

-Andrew

Hi all

 

Just a thought...... How about another Group Buy for the Digital traction control system ? I'd be up for one..... anyone else ?

 

That'd solve the problem !

Can you take the back off your control unit? I have an idea of how they may doing this with three wires.

 

-Andrew

 

already done that matey, there are 2 solder points on the circuit board.

 

 

As you can see from the photo, the red wire (live) and the green wire (signal) can be bridged, if i solder a momentary switch in, pressing the switch will effectively send a higher volts signal down the green wire. what i need to know though, is there anything special about the button used, or is it just a generic momentary switch with two wires coming from it and soldered onto those two solder points?

 

What i dont want to do, is just put a generic momentary switch in place, then fry my TC ecu when i press that button and send too high a voltage down it lol

 

Im pretty sure its just a generic momentary switch solder on to those to points, but considering how expensive the ECU is, id rather air on the side of caution.

Edited March 21, 201312 yr by vodkashots

Hi all

 

Just a thought...... How about another Group Buy for the Digital traction control system ? I'd be up for one..... anyone else ?

 

That'd solve the problem !

 

Id love the digital traction controller, but £180 just for the controller, easier if you are buying the complete unit though.

The clue of how to do this is in this thread:

 

http://www.racelogic.co.uk/Forum/showthread.php?1193-External-Off-switch

 

Need to have a think, but looks like RL have used a resistance ladder to set the traction settings and launch control.

The launch switch could be either a normally off or normally on type.

 

-Andrew

Hi all

 

Just a thought...... How about another Group Buy for the Digital traction control system ? I'd be up for one..... anyone else ?

 

That'd solve the problem !

 

+1 :-)

Ian .. its just how i said it would be .. Get your self a Momentum switch .. the rest of the stuff is on the circuit board

solder on the 2 points and away u go .. the ECU will see a Direct 5v bypassing the Vir switch and activate the L-C

The clue of how to do this is in this thread:

 

http://www.racelogic.co.uk/Forum/showthread.php?1193-External-Off-switch

 

Need to have a think, but looks like RL have used a resistance ladder to set the traction settings and launch control.

The launch switch could be either a normally off or normally on type.

 

-Andrew

 

Its whats called a momentary switch, its only ON when pressed, soon as you take your finger off the button, the switch is then OFF.

 

Well mark, what i dont want to do is pass a +12v current down it. so i suppose ill have to dig my volt meter out and see what voltage is coming from that red wire. (edit, nvm just reading that thread, red is indeed +5v)

Edited March 21, 201312 yr by vodkashots

ok So who can organise a group buy ..... Richard ? Who can ?

Tony if you want to set up a group buy, im sure a new thread would be better as most people who do not have a Racelogic traction control have most likely not bothered reading this thread again now they know what its about.

 

as for the button issue. ive found the same button used on ebay. so might just grab one and solder it in place, the ECU looks for a +5v spike on the green wire to activate Launch control, so with the button wired into those two tracks, its going to send a spike down the green wire when the button is pressed.

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/12V-Momentary-Push-Button-Horn-Switch-OFF-ON-Car-Dashboard-/261161661277?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Components_Supplies_ET&var=560180802441&hash=item3cce72b35d

I've sent an email to the TLO asking about a Group buy......

Here you go (post #19 and on):

 

http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/showthread.php?134803-RLTC-Slip-Launch-control-box-query

 

-Andrew

Here you go (post #19 and on):

 

http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/showthread.php?134803-RLTC-Slip-Launch-control-box-query

 

-Andrew

 

Spot on matey, got they are cheeky buggers lol, i was right, all i had to do with stick a momentary switch onto those to contacts. now just need to plumb the unit back in and get it sorted. thank you very much.

 

what did you search in google to find that? i used all sorts and never came across that one.

I came across a reference when searching to someone relocating the launch button itself onto their dash, so I figured to do that

they must have taken the control unit apart and might have posted a picture...

 

Google --> racelogic control launch button --> and look in Images (scroll down a bit)

 

-Andrew

I came across a reference when searching to someone relocating the launch button itself onto their dash, so I figured to do that

they must have taken the control unit apart and might have posted a picture...

 

Google --> racelogic control launch button --> and look in Images (scroll down a bit)

 

-Andrew

 

No way, had i not searched for Racelogic TRACTION control launch button, it would have given me that image. but as i added that one word, it completely ignored it lol

WOOOHOOOO, well just been down and quickly (only took me 45 mins) plumbed in the injectors to the TC ECU, started the car (found out where my wandering idle is coming from, got that back once the RL was installed again, but anyway that's another story) plumbed in the rev pick up, didn't have to worry about the ABS as that was already installed anyway, i only changed engine harness.

 

Started the car, flipped the switch from 20% to off then straight back to 20% again, nailed the throttle and the car only gets to 4.5k revs and misfires in that range. it wont let me rev higher, turning the TC off for a short while (only around 3 seconds) and back on again, i can rev across the whole range.

 

Anyway, at least i know it most certainly does do launch control, going to get me a button lol. also need it hooked up to a laptop so i can sort out a few perimeters, i have bigger wheels on since it was installed, so no doubt its still set up for use with the 17's that came on the car instead of the current 19's.

 

Well happy.

WOOOHOOOO, well just been down and quickly (only took me 45 mins) plumbed in the injectors to the TC ECU, started the car (found out where my wandering idle is coming from, got that back once the RL was installed again, but anyway that's another story) plumbed in the rev pick up, didn't have to worry about the ABS as that was already installed anyway, i only changed engine harness.

 

Started the car, flipped the switch from 20% to off then straight back to 20% again, nailed the throttle and the car only gets to 4.5k revs and misfires in that range. it wont let me rev higher, turning the TC off for a short while (only around 3 seconds) and back on again, i can rev across the whole range.

 

Anyway, at least i know it most certainly does do launch control, going to get me a button lol. also need it hooked up to a laptop so i can sort out a few perimeters, i have bigger wheels on since it was installed, so no doubt its still set up for use with the 17's that came on the car instead of the current 19's.

 

Well happy.

 

Wow what a win...:thumbup1:

Well, bit of an update on this, brought a £2 R232 to USB conversion cable from amazon (spared no expense lol) plugged it into my laptop, and connected it to the RL TC ECU, have adjusted the launch revs to 4600 soft cut, and 4800 hard cut (not sure if it needs to be set higher than that as cant really test a launch due to slipping clutch)

 

Also set the tire sizes for rolling circumference, and number of pulses from the ABS unit (old software used to use Teeth, now its pulses, so set it for number of teeth on the ABS wheel) only thing i now need to do is find a empty car park and do a calibration of the system, which is just a straight run, with a full lock U turn and back to straight for it to fully calibrate the driven from the reference wheels, obviously not at stupid speeds lol

 

So at the moment, im loving it more, can kick it into launch very easily and have it set to turn off launch when the car speed is 30kph.

 

well chuffed.