Now I have your attention, heres a copy of the email I received today !

 

This girl for Prime Minister!

 

 

 

"The problems we face today are there because the people who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living"

 

 

 

 

This was written by a 21 yr old female who gets it. It's her future she's worried about and this is how she feels about the social welfare system that she's

being forced to live in! These solutions are just common sense in her opinion.

 

 

 

Put me in charge . . ..

 

Put me in charge of benefit payments. I'd get rid of cash payments and provide vouchers for 50kg bags of rice and beans, blocks of cheese, basic sanitary

items and all the powdered milk you can use.

If you want steak, burgers, takeaway and junk food, then get a job.

 

 

Put me in charge of the NHS. The first thing I'd do is to get women to have birth control implants.

Then, we'll test recipients for drugs, alcohol, and nicotine. If you want to reproduce, use drugs, drink alcohol or smoke, then get a job.

 

 

Put me in charge of local authority housing. Ever live in military barracks?

You will maintain our property in a clean and good state of repair.

Your "home" will be subject to inspections anytime and possessions will be inventoried.

If you want a plasma TV or Xbox 360, then get a job and your own place.

 

 

Put me in charge of compulsory job search. You will either search for employment each week no matter what the job or you will report for community work.

This may be clearing the roadways and open spaces of rubbish, painting and repairing public housing, whatever we find for you.

We will sell your 22 inch rims and low profile tires and your dooff dooff stereo and speakers and put that money toward the "common good.."

 

 

Before you write that I've violated someone's rights, realise that all of the above is voluntary.

If you want our hard earned cash and housing assistance, accept our rules..

Before you say that this would be "demeaning" and ruin someones "self esteem," consider that it wasn't that long ago that taking someone else's money for

doing absolutely nothing was demeaning and lowered self esteem.

 

 

If we are expected to pay for other people's mistakes we should at least attempt to make them learn from their bad choices. The current system rewards those

for continuing to make bad choices.

 

 

AND While you are on benefit income you no longer have the right to VOTE!

 

Stop being part of the problem, and start being part of the solution !

wow, she's got some serious balls... and tbh I agree with most of it! It's a bit extreme but I think it might work, just a shame itll never happen

She has my vote:yes:

good for her!!!

Now I have your attention, heres a copy of the email I received today !

 

This girl for Prime Minister!

 

 

 

"The problems we face today are there because the people who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living"

 

? in a country of 62.6million people http://www.google.co.uk/publicdata/explore?ds=d5bncppjof8f9_&met_y=sp_pop_totl&idim=country:GBR&dl=en&hl=en&q=uk+population with only 1.57million claiming (in september) http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10604117 i think this girl actually needs to do some research first, 1.5million people isnt going to be the difference between who gets in power or not. with 17% of the working population of britian claiming working tax credits / child benifit. i think people are actually deluded to think that the problem with the benifits system lays solely with those out of work.

 

This was written by a 21 yr old female who gets it. It's her future she's worried about and this is how she feels about the social welfare system that she's

being forced to live in! These solutions are just common sense in her opinion.

 

We are all being forced into a social welfare system, this is due to the banks / governement squeesing everyone to get the GDP debt down. this has nothing to do with those on benifits.

 

Put me in charge . . ..

 

Put me in charge of benefit payments. I'd get rid of cash payments and provide vouchers for 50kg bags of rice and beans, blocks of cheese, basic sanitary

items and all the powdered milk you can use.

If you want steak, burgers, takeaway and junk food, then get a job.

 

 

All well and good, but people are already being forced into food hand outs due to the state of the country, this has nothing to do with those on benefits, these are hard working people forced in to poverty due to how this country has gone to shit.

 

Put me in charge of the NHS. The first thing I'd do is to get women to have birth control implants.

Then, we'll test recipients for drugs, alcohol, and nicotine. If you want to reproduce, use drugs, drink alcohol or smoke, then get a job.

 

Not everyone woman can have a birth control implant, my Mrs cant, as it effects her menstrual cycle, had she done research into this, she would know that not everyone can have certain birth control measures, also having drugs tests costs money, who will fund this money? it cost me £600 to have a drugs / alcohol test for a court case, as much as she thinks this is a clear cut solution, this would most likely cost too much to enforce in the processes. so lets see this shall we?

 

1.57million X £600 = £942,000,000 so almost a billion to make sure no one is on drugs / alcohol? not sure that makes sense but there you go.

 

Put me in charge of local authority housing. Ever live in military barracks?

You will maintain our property in a clean and good state of repair.

Your "home" will be subject to inspections anytime and possessions will be inventoried.

If you want a plasma TV or Xbox 360, then get a job and your own place.

 

First ive lived in a military barracks, although you maintain the property to some degree, its actually still the army's responsibility to maintain the house and ground as they are effectively your landlord, also private and housing association houses already ask you to maintain a certain level of repair, and council will only repair damage not caused by the tenant. so again lack of research suggests she is only talking to try and win votes.

 

As for "if you want a plasma TV / Xbox 360, then get a job and your own place" - what if you brought these items while working then found your self made redundant? does that mean you should lose these items just because you are now unemployed? you have worked hard to own them in the first place. this is not an acceptable or enforceable course of action, i cant think of one person on this forum who would gladly accept that they have to give up something they worked hard for because they are now out of a job. i find this girl is actually treading on dangerous ground in the form of starting a revolt rather than thinking clearly about how to solve the issues. and she is showing her lack of maturity.

 

Also, has she seen the state of the housing market? has she seen just how hard it is for first time buyers to get a foot hold, or even get a loan from the banks? the banks have clamped down since the meltdown and rightly so, but they have made it almost impossible to buy your own house as a first time buyer, made even harder when self employed with an irregular income.

 

Put me in charge of compulsory job search. You will either search for employment each week no matter what the job or you will report for community work.

This may be clearing the roadways and open spaces of rubbish, painting and repairing public housing, whatever we find for you.

We will sell your 22 inch rims and low profile tires and your dooff dooff stereo and speakers and put that money toward the "common good.."

 

I agree with the first one, work for your money, but there has to be guide lines, you still need to be able to search for work, if you are doing community jobs how would it work if you also wanted to find a real job? The other problem comes from, if you are then working, then you are subjected to the national minimum wage law, you cant have it both ways, you are also then taking paid work away from those who want to get a job, for a lower basic level payment.

 

there has to be some give and take on that one, also due to, todays working climate, you have 50 people going for 1 job, we need to create jobs first, Employers are now at a stage where they have so much choice available to them, not everyone gets employed even though they are actively seeking work.

 

Also, as above, would you really want someone selling your 22" rims and low profile tyres if you acquire these while working, but have suddenly found your self jobless?

 

Before you write that I've violated someone's rights, realise that all of the above is voluntary.

If you want our hard earned cash and housing assistance, accept our rules..

Before you say that this would be "demeaning" and ruin someones "self esteem," consider that it wasn't that long ago that taking someone Else's money for

doing absolutely nothing was demeaning and lowered self esteem.

 

Actually demeaning and lowered self esteem comes from those who have no realisation about what people face on a day to day basis when unemployed, low self esteem is created when you apply for work and do not get the job, its also gained by those in work looking down on those who find them selves Suddenly unemployed and made to feel like a criminal, even if they are actively seeking work, but are finding it hard to get employed.

 

If we are expected to pay for other people's mistakes we should at least attempt to make them learn from their bad choices. The current system rewards those

for continuing to make bad choices.

 

Actually the current system would work fine, IF those in employment didn't have to use working tax credits / child support to bolster their income, its now at the stage where those working are claiming more benefits than those not working (1.57million vs 3.3million middle class *3.3million middle class, this does not take into account that there are actually more in work claiming, there are also those on the breadline or those who are on the higher end of the wage scale who are still allowed to claim working tax credits / child support) working should not give you the right to claim, because if the world was perfect, we should not need to, but due to the state of affairs the banks and government have left us in, everyone is now claiming.

 

Unfortunately with programs like Jeremy kyle, we are building a bad image of those who are out of work, not everyone is a scrounger on benefits. there are those who play the system, i understand that and id be a bit naive to think other wise, but there are genuine people out there looking for work, and this system would punish those and not the ones who actually deserve it.

 

AND While you are on benefit income you no longer have the right to VOTE!

 

This wouldn't make a difference even if it came into effect, id say those who are cheating the system, are hardly the type to stand in line and vote, and 1.57million unemployed will not make a massive difference in a vote if EVERYONE voted. also non votes as i understand it (could be wrong though), even by those who are employed end up being defaulted towards the government that is already in power, so you would complicate the voting system as it then has to remove names of those on benifits?, also you may only be on benifits for a 2 week period, does that mean you have to lose your vote just because you were off work for those 2 week during voting? how would you go about that?

 

Stop being part of the problem, and start being part of the solution !

 

The problem is, her ideas actually create more of a problem than solving them.

 

I agree the system needs changing, its not fair that you can get more money off work than you can on, but i strongly feel this girl actually needs to go live in conditions on the bread line to find out what it is actually like.

 

Ive been out of work before, it was a pain in the arse, im not sure how these people get away with cheating the system to get loads out of it, or how they even manage to stay on the dole that long? but i sure as hell couldnt do it, but the biggest issues i faced when i was looking for work, was the total lack of help from the job centre to get me some training to make me more employable.

 

The other biggest problem with is how to make a fairer system so British people stand a better chance at securing jobs from foreign immigrants. there is a company on a local industrial estate near me, 85% of the work force is non British, almost all of the job agencies in my local town cater more for immigrants than British workers too.

 

We need to reform our own policies on who gets the right to work in the UK first, before we start asking why so many are signing on.

 

Sorry, having been unemployed before and struggling to find work, (went for 37 interviews in a 2 week period and didn't get a single job) and being on that end of the spectrum and struggling to make ends meet, i do not support this girls ideas. there are other means to get people back into work, and being like that is not it. she would not get my vote.

 

Mr Cameron and co, like to shout about how we are all in this together, yet do you see them in power taking cuts to their wages? or loosing their second homes? or how about the benefits they have? what about the all the expenses they claim from the working? if we are truly in this together, then surely they should lead by example?

Edited November 10, 201213 yr by vodkashots

wow, she's got some serious balls... and tbh I agree with most of it! It's a bit extreme but I think it might work, just a shame itll never happen

 

I agree with all of it....!!

 

....And if I were in power it's what I would be doing; and whilst I acknowledge that there are genuine cases of hardship, there are far more lazy and feckless scroungers getting fat off of my taxes....:asshole:

 

Richard:thumbup1:

She gets the job as far as I'm concerned...when can she start?

a lot of rational thinking and sense

 

I'm with Ian here... The ideas she has presented would make this country a far worse place, and only serve to increase inequality and poverty.

 

As Ian points out, the majority of those on benefits aren't defrauding the system, it is the minority who give them a bad name...

I'm with Ian here... The ideas she has presented would make this country a far worse place, and only serve to increase inequality and poverty.

 

As Ian points out, the majority of those on benefits aren't defrauding the system, it is the minority who give them a bad name...

 

 

here here!

 

We are all but a few months away from requiring welfare benefits.

It is easy to condemn people who do when we are in full time employment, a situation that can change

in moments.

 

I've heard a lot of people accusing the condems of being stupid/thick etc.

I for one think they are a lot more intelligent than they seem as they are systematically redistributing wealth to the few

at the top in front of our very eyes.

 

Whilst those at the bottom are turning on themselves, the wealthy are left alone to reap the rewards.

 

There was a famous statement "First they came...."

Something tells me this isn't written by a 21 year old female. She writes with American phrases and spelling, yet mentions the NHS.

 

I agree with most of it.

Well, for starters the thread is (almost) a year old.....

 

......And, whilst I would imagine, many 21 year olds today (male and female) might actually speak or write (or - shudder - text) in an American vernacular; I suspect this article was not written by a "21 year old female" but more like a journalist, desperate for some exposure. Be it in the press or online...

 

Nonetheless as a UK tax payer, even though I fully acknowledge there are those genuine cases that need the support of the state, I still agree with what she/he/they have implied!! Sorry to offend those who might not agree; but the silent majority in this country have taken it up the proverbial catflap from the left leaning "so-called social reformers" for too long now and things have to change, if the country is going to get back on its feet.

 

Richard:mad2:

Ops! I blame the newbie (spambot from Nigeria).

Ops! I blame the newbie (spambot from Nigeria).

 

LOL - although not as it would seem....:wink:

Something stinks here ???

 

 

21 year old yank for president !!

 

Alan..........