I'd own one. :w00t:

 

http://www.roadandtrack.com/future-cars/2013-nissan-z

I'd own one. :w00t:

 

http://www.roadandtrack.com/future-cars/2013-nissan-z

 

Me too....:wheelchair:

Me too....:wheelchair:

 

Times be a changing! hell if i can save on gas and still have the same amount of power... well infact more torque, then i'm all for it.

2013, the year the Z loses its nads and becomes a Prius.

2013, the year the Z loses its nads and becomes a Prius.

 

Incorrect...

 

Story is the same with the R36 GTR as well its a hybrid too but they are weight saving to account for the batteries and the electric motor coupled with a less powerful petrol engine gives you the same amount of power but 25-30mpg.... all claimed of course, i guess we wait and see.

yuk

bring on the ol v6 petrol drinkers..hey anything to make this sh)^Y island warmer

seriosly thought not the best looking thing if im gona be honest nissan lost the way with the 350z styling wise just dosnt look gook sounds great goes well(just not as well as the gz32tt)

but i geuss all manufactores are getting whiped in to the carbon footprint thing now so no more hi-powered petrol station seekers

bit of a bummer really

yuk

bring on the ol v6 petrol drinkers..hey anything to make this sh)^Y island warmer

seriosly thought not the best looking thing if im gona be honest nissan lost the way with the 350z styling wise just dosnt look gook sounds great goes well(just not as well as the gz32tt)

but i geuss all manufactores are getting whiped in to the carbon footprint thing now so no more hi-powered petrol station seekers

bit of a bummer really

 

You do realise all they are doing is using a smaller petrol engine to save fuel, and the electric motor adds another 160-200hp and MASSIVE amounts of torque, the torque an electric motor produces is immense.... and its free grunt! yes its an economy thing but it keeps sports cars alive and apart from the extra weight i think in 10 years we will have some wicked electric sports cars that will far out perform what exists now in every respect.

Would you wanna charge up an electric car though? From what I remember electricity in NZ is EXPENSIVE, lol. It ain't cheap here either!

They're hoping it will manage 30mpg?? WOW. 2 and a half decades of evolution and the best they can come up with is that? Must try harder. :pinch:

Would you wanna charge up an electric car though? From what I remember electricity in NZ is EXPENSIVE, lol. It ain't cheap here either!

 

Did you see that Top Gear when they tried to drive an electric car and they kept running out of juice with nowhere to charge it up?

 

Electric cars are just impractical at the moment, agree on the instant torque you get tho' lol

unless they develop it as a plug in hybrid generally the engine will charge the batteries for the electric drive & also use regenerative braking to charge it.

 

best of both worlds then - no need to plug in to chage & have the use of an electric drive cutting in under correct conditions

unless they develop it as a plug in hybrid generally the engine will charge the batteries for the electric drive & also use regenerative braking to charge it.

 

best of both worlds then - no need to plug in to chage & have the use of an electric drive cutting in under correct conditions

 

Yeap thats that they are going with, and they say the new r36 gtr will have the same performance as the current model.... if not more. and 30mpg...

 

bring it on

 

i'm still a bit anti fully electric cars as nothing will ever replace the roar of an engine, but fuel is running out so it is inevitable...

 

the hybrids are an interesting path if they can pull it off to maintain the same performance but use less fuel, pretty safe to assume use of more aluminium will end up being incorperated to help save weight, and more carbon fibre kevlar and fibreglass, and more plastic body panels to no doubt.

 

the charging on a full electric car seems to be heading in the right direction, toyota's new electric car to be released this year i believe, and for an extra $10,000 NZD they sell you a solar panel for your roof which will charge the car to full warrentied for 5 years but a life expectancy of 25.... to effectively fuel a daily driver for upto 25 years for 10 grand, i'm all for the exciting new future looming upon our doorstep.

 

More so to see where it leads but as i say i'm a bit dubious on full electric from a performance stand point, a an earlier poster mentioned the tesla ran out of volts when top gear used it :glare:

sorry to report.. The Future is diesel. - due to 40% (of a barrel)of crude oil can be made into diesel. Against 6% petrol.[speaking roughly cos space is limited] now diesel particulate filters rule, the publics lungs are saved.

And the daftest thing!!! the game is all about emissions but the more intrusive the emission test the worse the MPG . true enough its a bit backward in the emissions lab.

-expect to see small capacity petrol turbo's. stop start tech everywhere. diesel sports cars. cars running round with two batteries because the electrics are paramount. curb weighs always rising. ( survey says the public will not buy a car with handle wound windows)

sorry to report.. The Future is diesel. - due to 40% (of a barrel)of crude oil can be made into diesel. Against 6% petrol.[speaking roughly cos space is limited] now diesel particulate filters rule, the publics lungs are saved.

And the daftest thing!!! the game is all about emissions but the more intrusive the emission test the worse the MPG . true enough its a bit backward in the emissions lab.

-expect to see small capacity petrol turbo's. stop start tech everywhere. diesel sports cars. cars running round with two batteries because the electrics are paramount. curb weighs always rising. ( survey says the public will not buy a car with handle wound windows)

 

I think i can make enough sense of this to reply.

 

Diesel is an option yes. The mitsubishi eclipse concept is infact a 2.2 diesel.

 

In saying this, your diesel figures are spot on, but the diesil is still used for transport if goods, trucking etc. so needs to be almost reserved for this use, the fuel is running out fast, and the oil companys hasnt really let anybody pull finger until they can extract that last penny out of the ground.

 

The future is electric without a doubt. it's just in what way.

 

Cadillac have been messing around with thorium lasers, the idea being the laser heats water into steam, which then powers a generator to create electricity. 7grams of thorium (for the laser) can power a vehicle for 500,000km they reckon. from what i remember it is a nuclear element, but not useable for explosives.

 

So the options are out there and hey if i can have an electric engines sports car with some grunt i'd rather have that than be driving a leaf.

yes Zedzilla :) . My view was shorter-term ( ignoring LPG cos Ive never been involved with it)Yes water/and hydrogen cars must be the far future. I reckon I wont buy one in this lifetime tho. got a horrible feeling cos I like a bit of growl under the bonnet I'll be driving a diesel. (with three wheels too)

Hey (you prob have) you heard they have been getting massive mpg from diesel 2-strokes using them on tanker size boats? Imagine the 2-stroke engine coming back to save the planet! hahahahaha. its afunny ol'world.

yes Zedzilla :) . My view was shorter-term ( ignoring LPG cos Ive never been involved with it)Yes water/and hydrogen cars must be the far future. I reckon I wont buy one in this lifetime tho. got a horrible feeling cos I like a bit of growl under the bonnet I'll be driving a diesel. (with three wheels too)

Hey (you prob have) you heard they have been getting massive mpg from diesel 2-strokes using them on tanker size boats? Imagine the 2-stroke engine coming back to save the planet! hahahahaha. its afunny ol'world.

 

Would be fine but the diesil simply isnt there...

 

As mentioned from crude oil is 40% diesel and only 6% petrol (only going off what was posted earlier)

 

It's the crude oil that is running out, so you have the same problem.

 

It's not like we have a massive worldwide overstock of diesil.... its all getting used as well already.... so right now that means far more diesil is already being consumed than petrol...

 

the engine sound we shall miss, but alas this is the future..... the torque of an electric engine is ridiculous though, so expect complete ridiculous 0-100 times.... for FREEE (ish) lol, buy some shares in power companys guys ;)

diesel.. available in every fuel station I've seen recently. really very quiet sure it's 'there'.

yea - you seen the price of it now days LOL!

 

I think fuel prices will be pushed higher and higher by governments & manufacturers to push forward new technology.

 

Mild hybrids will be an intermediate step until fuel cells are widely available.

 

I think EV's will be a short lived solution - I personally see fuel cells as the future of transport until small fusion drives are available LOL!!

diesel.. available in every fuel station I've seen recently. really very quiet sure it's 'there'.

 

Wow you think in the now don't you.... but do you see them with a giant excess of it? no all of what they are pumping out is being used.

Mild hybrids will be an intermediate step/I think EV's will be a short lived solution- Paul.C ... with you for sure on that view.

 

Wow you think in the now don't you- Zedzilla...(Hyde park corner needs you!) Yes, it stop me from walking into things.

Great concept car - and I agree with the fact that hybrid/electric cars will be the future....

 

.....but sadly I still don't like the idea. Sure Zedzilla is 100% right in that at least this way we get to keep the notion of sports cars going. But being a petrol head it is still sad to see that we'll all have to go "prius" in the future as fossil fuels start to run out.

 

Personally I don't buy into the whole modern green concept - I am a "climate change denier" (just my own opinion BTW; I don't wish to instigate debate) and a dinosaur in the purest sense. But the rest of the world has, so in time I will have no choice but to comply or become extinct!!

 

Richard:cool3:

Mild hybrids will be an intermediate step/I think EV's will be a short lived solution- Paul.C ... with you for sure on that view.

 

Wow you think in the now don't you- Zedzilla...(Hyde park corner needs you!) Yes, it stop me from walking into things.

 

Well cmon dude i say the diesil is being used and going to run out and you go oh it's still in the petrol stations...

 

My pet budgies are more open minded.

My point sherrgar is the crude is alot closer to running out than you think.

 

Prices will skyrocket. shipping costs will go up and your average pleb will not be able to afford diesil, expect a 5 fold cost increase over the next 10-15 years..

 

I understand you are thinking short term here, but thats the hwole point of the car in the origional post is it is a fill in car while they sort out the battery cell technology for fully electric, reality is in our lifetimes crude is going to run out.

 

I have no intention of winding you up or starting a shit slinging contest, but thinking so short term is a pointless endevour. Thats my opinion, yours clearly differs. I apologise for stepping over the line a bit there as my reply could have been worded more elequently.

 

Suffice to this regarding the "prius" comments i think associating all hybrid technology with the first production car to have it is rather irrational.

 

Much like the combustion engine over the years, hybrid technology has come a long way since the 1999 release of the prius. I expect great things from nissan with this hybrid technology, sure there is a long way to go, but the difference is not dis-similar to going from carby's to EFI fuel systems.

 

It intrigues me the path nissan will take here and what they can come up with.

I Think you'd be OK to sit and yak when in a pub sometime Zedzilla. just as long as we hadn't had to many. cos we're just guessing at the future. I am quite sure that the public gets what the public wants/ manufacturers will not make what they cannot sell weither what they sell is right or wrong.

I'd be funny as feck to hear the longterm view against the shortterm. We'd both think we were mad. I remember the Emails when the 'uprising ' were against petrol costing more than milk- ltr for ltr, the 'call to arms!'. nothing changed.

"Mild hybrids will be an intermediate step" is the most sense I have seen in this thread(amoungst much)simply tweaking what we have until the next best thing comes along and the public embraces it.

My knowledge only extends to 5yrs before the public gets its hand on the product. thats my short term view explained hopefully. I dont like to offer guesses unless its face to face (and you can see my face ;)

I mean yeah, I hear stuff said about the drilling of oil. I dont drill oil so who to believe. I do the job in front of me.

I'm not going to pick at everything you say cos I have warmed to you (dunno why) but I like your last line. I want to see cars so quirky and dumb we will smile as we say to kids " I remember them" & laugh lots.- I expect we have some weird cars in our near future. And our past?.... the Mazda Bongo is the most influential and technologically advanced car we have seen in decades. Nissan, and every car company, spent millions upon millions trying to do what Mazda did 'for a laugh'.I dont know what's going to happen next. I'm only certain it's called Friday.

I Think you'd be OK to sit and yak when in a pub sometime Zedzilla. just as long as we hadn't had to many. cos we're just guessing at the future. I am quite sure that the public gets what the public wants/ manufacturers will not make what they cannot sell weither what they sell is right or wrong.

I'd be funny as feck to hear the longterm view against the shortterm. We'd both think we were mad. I remember the Emails when the 'uprising ' were against petrol costing more than milk- ltr for ltr, the 'call to arms!'. nothing changed.

"Mild hybrids will be an intermediate step" is the most sense I have seen in this thread(amoungst much)simply tweaking what we have until the next best thing comes along and the public embraces it.

My knowledge only extends to 5yrs before the public gets its hand on the product. thats my short term view explained hopefully. I dont like to offer guesses unless its face to face (and you can see my face ;)

I mean yeah, I hear stuff said about the drilling of oil. I dont drill oil so who to believe. I do the job in front of me.

I'm not going to pick at everything you say cos I have warmed to you (dunno why) but I like your last line. I want to see cars so quirky and dumb we will smile as we say to kids " I remember them" & laugh lots.- I expect we have some weird cars in our near future. And our past?.... the Mazda Bongo is the most influential and technologically advanced car we have seen in decades. Nissan, and every car company, spent millions upon millions trying to do what Mazda did 'for a laugh'.I dont know what's going to happen next. I'm only certain it's called Friday.

 

But...

 

It's already friday... tommorrow i'll sling you the lotto numbers.

 

I shall reply properly to this at a later time, i have been up the entire night with my z's body harness all over my floor and now i have wires everywhere and relays and ahhhh whos stupid idea was this.

 

It was you wasn't it. :shaun:

"Mild hybrids will be an intermediate step" is the most sense I have seen in this thread(amoungst much)simply tweaking what we have until the next best thing comes along and the public embraces it.

 

apologies - I did not mean to start talking sense - it was a moment of madness! :lol: