This is the best BT can offer me in 2011, the exchange is only 3 miles away, I live in a rural setting, the village is less than 2 miles long and 2 miles wide, not really a high traffic area.......... BT visited a few weeks ago to change the line pair over from a near by connection box due to a hum on the line defo seems slower than before with the hum! that said the engineer mentioned that the overhead copper cables were approx 30 years old and no amount of new technology in the exchange can circumvent that.

 

 

Jeff TT

You need to organise a a big ass truck to accidently knock that BT pole down !

 

I've been running off a Cable connection at home for some time now in my hometown of troon

and heres the speed test i just done which is fairly impressive in my books.

 

That's pants. Can't you get Virgin media in your area?

I feel your pain. I live in a small village, with a non LLU exchange and no cable of Fibreoptics.

 

At peak times (5pm - 12am) , I'm only getting about the same as you, and the latency is really bad. Off-peak im able to get about 8mb but the Throttling that Sky & BT put on the system is ridiculous, most likely due to an overpopulated system that struggles with the load.

You need to organise a a big ass truck to accidently knock that BT pole down !

CLASSIC !!

I've been running off a Cable connection at home for some time now in my hometown of troon

and heres the speed test i just done which is fairly impressive in my books.

 

 

Now that is impressive

 

That's pants. Can't you get Virgin media in your area?

 

No fraid not nor BT Infinity service

 

I feel your pain. I live in a small village, with a non LLU exchange and no cable of Fibreoptics.

 

At peak times (5pm - 12am) , I'm only getting about the same as you, and the latency is really bad. Off-peak im able to get about 8mb but the Throttling that Sky & BT put on the system is ridiculous, most likely due to an overpopulated system that struggles with the load.

 

Still amazes me we are so behind, places like Malasia have fibre optics running 200 Mbs and parts of Asia are talking of a 1000 Mbs by 2015!!

Jeff

Edited September 25, 201114 yr by JeffTT

ha i get about 300kbps so think yourself lucky

This is mine, not much better than yours Jeff :( all for £40 per month, I`m getting ripped!!!

 

 

ha i get about 300kbps so think yourself lucky

 

Blimey, remember dial up days, now that was fun, connect to a heavy web site and you could go have a shower and get changed whist it loaded, all from a penny a minute with Freeserve.

 

 

Jeff

My BT line is pretty crap too, luckily we're getting BT Infinity in my area on the 30th of this month. So I'll be upgrading to that.

This is mine, not much better than yours Jeff :( all for £40 per month, I`m getting ripped!!!

 

 

 

 

 

Yes tell me about it, we hardly use our home telephone in fact think the last bill had about £2.50 worth of calls, our mobiles are free and we get good signals so seems silly to use the home phone, costing us around the £40 mark just to get slow broadband.....arghhh

 

Jeff

My BT line is pretty crap too, luckily we're getting BT Infinity in my area on the 30th of this month. So I'll be upgrading to that.

 

Yeh, thats my option too, for the same price should get my speed up to 28meg !!! :clap:

That 50mb line i've got is a cable service which costs me £38 a month but i pay another £10 due to not taking the tv or phone services from them.

 

So if i moved my phone line to them it would only cost me £28.

might be worth looking here Jeff:

http://www.shop.bt.com/articles/promotions/product-promotions/bt-i-plate---will-it-work-for-me--5124.html

 

If your phone socket is the same as the one highlighted in green then you might benefit - I have one plugged in it home and noticed about a 10% increase in speed. It certainly won't give you a 20-meg connection, but when your speed is as slow as yours then every kilobyte makes a difference!

Hi Jeff,

 

I work for a network, send me your postcode and Ill have a look and see if there are any options for you or try and find out when the exchange near you will be upgraded to fibre...

Mine.

 

 

Alan...........

Hi Jeff,

 

I work for a network, send me your postcode and Ill have a look and see if there are any options for you or try and find out when the exchange near you will be upgraded to fibre...

 

Can you do that for others too I'm looking for a new provider :)

Im with orange and use to have slow net but about 6 months ago they improved the line. Have to say its much faster but I get disconnected every night for about 10mins between 8:00 and 10:00.

 

Very annoying when your on wave 48 on Gears War 3 horde mode :headvswal

Can you do that for others too I'm looking for a new provider :)

 

Yes Mate,

 

got to be careful i dont breach any confidentiality but most companies (BT) have a good idea when they will update the exchanges and the cable companies pretty much know whether they will dig to new areas.

 

The other thing to look at is the technologies they use to connect you to the cloud. contention ratios have gone because they were deemed unfair, but priority is still given to business or the back haul isnt as big as it should be..

 

Im with Virgin myself at the moment and the speed is significantly faster than I was getting through O2 and Sky in my area..

 

PM me your postcode and Ill look at the exchange area you are in and let you know, probably tomorrow..

11.5 MBps not too bad for dl's

 

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1501371435.png

Jeff,

 

I work in the telecommunications industry (for a major network infrastructure supplier) and there is little doubt that we are at least a decade if not "decades" behind most of the world (not just the "developed" world).

 

There are 2 key reasons:

 

1. UK Operators are unwilling to spend much, if anything, on upgrading the network. Certainly significantly less than many other countries.

2. The building laws of the country combined with prohibitive Health & Safety regulations and costs make it almost impossible to upgrade the existing legacy network.

 

BT Infinity (known as FTTx in the industry) is perhaps the boldest move that anyone has taken in a long, long time. At some stage, I hope you'll benefit but as with many things, they are focusing on the densely populated areas.

 

Your best bet will be LTE (4G), but the licence auction will not take place until sometime next year, with services available in 2013/14.

 

Again, LTE is now available in many European and Far-Eastern countries, providing 100Mbps over the air...

Jeff,

 

I work in the telecommunications industry (for a major network infrastructure supplier) and there is little doubt that we are at least a decade if not "decades" behind most of the world (not just the "developed" world).

 

There are 2 key reasons:

 

1. UK Operators are unwilling to spend much, if anything, on upgrading the network. Certainly significantly less than many other countries.

2. The building laws of the country combined with prohibitive Health & Safety regulations and costs make it almost impossible to upgrade the existing legacy network.

 

BT Infinity (known as FTTx in the industry) is perhaps the boldest move that anyone has taken in a long, long time. At some stage, I hope you'll benefit but as with many things, they are focusing on the densely populated areas.

 

Your best bet will be LTE (4G), but the licence auction will not take place until sometime next year, with services available in 2013/14.

 

Again, LTE is now available in many European and Far-Eastern countries, providing 100Mbps over the air...

 

Once they have got the licence though, the networks still have to get the network rolled out (just like 3G, still only limited land mass coverage) and as you say, planning etc makes it prohibitive which is why many of the networks are colaborating and sharing masts etc..

 

In the other countries you mention the government gets behind the build, this country the networks have to focus on making a profit.

 

What I do find amusing is people complain about network coverage, but also complain about masts and wireless technologies..

 

I worked for O2 when the first trials were completed in Slough. I have to say LTE was very impressive, although there was no one else using the network..

 

Sounds like we will be right bores chewing the fat at the next meet?lmao..:D:D

Hi Jeff, We have similar challenge with a slow exchange in our village. One thing that made quite a difference was fitting one of BT's broadband accelerators. It's free and very easy to fit...the link is here... http://www.productsandservices.bt.com/consumerProducts/displayTopic.do?topicId=25075

 

Hope this helps.

Blimey, remember dial up days, now that was fun, connect to a heavy web site and you could go have a shower and get changed whist it loaded, all from a penny a minute with Freeserve.

 

 

Jeff

 

Haha, Freeserve, now there's a blast from the past.....lol, those were the days.....:helpsmilie:

Actually, the key issues are:

• ADSL: "distance from Exchange" if you're using ADSL-type tech
  
• Cable: "distance from the nearest cable node" if you're using cable
  
• Community: "distance from/capability of backhaul"" for community solutions (incl fibre, wi-fi etc)
  
• Mobile (3G, 4G): "distance to and capacity of local mast" plus the backhaul issue.
  

In a nutshell, if you live in a rural location with low population density, the economies for the terrestrial operators to upgrade your home/business to higher speeds just aren't there. That's why the gov't is going to spend £530million on subsidies. But even then, the rural edge will only get a guarantee of 2Mbps. The "superfast broadband" will only be extending commercial coverage into the "final third" - not to everyone.

 

It's the same issue there was back when they were talking about extending broadband to everyone (they couldn't) and they've just repeated the issue. Just as well, there's a technology that doesn't care how far away from the exchange/mast/node it is:

20Mbps on the way by 2015 - anywhere you can see the southern sky. It's not a perfect replacement for FTTH/ADSL and gamers won't like the latency but if you're stuffed by the terrestrials today, odds are they won't get much better too quickly and satellite may be useful to you in the meantime.

Oh, and BTW, here's the official BT Speedtester http://www.speedtester.bt.com/ which actually tests your line and gives you configuration info as well. More helpful than the generic web speed testers.

Is satellite still not expensive?

what latency are you talking about with it?

 

Is that your MAC address you've published??

:biggrin: