Hi all,

 

Can somebody who has done a JDM to UK speedo change tell me how they changed the mileometer to read correctly? Tried earlier but don't want to force it.

 

Cheers, Rob

Anyone???????

Done it on mine but likely people are reluctant to say how or why they did it.

 

If it's a genuine reason to clock it back to genuine miles then ok but having a how to

of howto clock the odometer on the forums is a legal no no and anyone who posts it

will likely have the thread pulled by one of our mods!

All I'm doing is putting in a set of uk clocks into a JDM car. There is about 25000 miles difference between the two, JDM being lower. No illegal agenda at all.

Just remember it is an offence (well in the UK) to knowingly sell a car with an adjusted odometer with out making the new owner aware.

 

Which is strange as there isn't a law governing changing the clocks with ones that are lower or higher mileage?

........ link to odometer repair for 300ZX ......

 

Jeff said that you could get at the mechanism for cars up to S4 or 5 but for S6, they'd changed the design so it's not possible. Whatever he does worked fine for my S1 and S3 (and he gave me certificates which I passed on to the new owners)

 

Rob, if you didn't get that edited-out link before I took it out, pm me.

 

Oh, and after a bit of research, it is NOT legal to sell the car with a changed mileage without telling the buyer. That's fraud - even if you didn't know it had been changed http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/index/your_world/consumer_affairs/buying_second_hand_vehicles.htm#the_vehicle_had_a_false_mileage_reading from the Citizen's Advice. Couldn't find anything on VOSA, DVLA or other official site (lots of b*llocks talked on forums as usual.) Some sites say it's OK to change mileage as long as you tell buyer, others say that in itself is illegal.

 

FoF story: bloke buys Cortina 1.6 Mk11 with low mileage and looks after it lovingly. It was a minter and after 10 years of TLC, it's still in near-showroom nick. Best one on the road. Bloke eventually decides to sell to another enthusiast but realises after 10 years of driving, the mileage has gone quite high even though the condition is much better. So he thinks, well, just take a few miles off it to get mileage in line with condition so I don't lose out. Gets the Black and Decker out and whips the speedo out of the dash, turns it over to get at the cable for the drilly trick and reads a sticker put there by previous owner

Oh no, not again

Must be true, my mate in the pub told me :D

Edited July 16, 201114 yr by Gio
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Cheers for the info, I feel I need to say it again so it's completely clear to everyone. I am not clocking a car for monetary gain if I ever sell it. As said before I have a JDM car registering in KMH which has had the converter fitted however the readings for speed are totally inaccurate. I am fitting a set of UK clocks and want to change the milage on them to say what it says on the car at present, no difference at all. It will be changed so they read exactly in miles what it does in KMH.

 

I think I have covered myself totally there.

 

Cheers again, Rob

Rob, 2 things. 1) If you've had the converter fitted but the readings for speed are totally inaccurate, maybe something other than the clocks is wrong? Worth checking. I say this because both of the converters fitted by Zedworld to my Zeds worked fine in changing the speeds to be correct (as close as I could tell by my GPS).

 

2) If you are changing the clocks to UK, then IMO it would be OK to change the miles reading on the new odometer to match the kmh/divided by 1.609 to get miles from the old odometer. i.e if your km odo says 80,000km then the correct reading on the miles odo would be 49,720m. And if you put that info on a doc which goes with the car for any new purchaser, you should be covered. Just like Zedworld's conversion certificates.

 

Oh, and after a bit of research, it is NOT legal to sell the car with a changed mileage without telling the buyer. That's fraud - even if you didn't know it had been changed http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/index/your_world/consumer_affairs/buying_second_hand_vehicles.htm#the_vehicle_had_a_false_mileage_reading from the Citizen's Advice. Couldn't find anything on VOSA, DVLA or other official site (lots of b*llocks talked on forums as usual.) Some sites say it's OK to change mileage as long as you tell buyer, others say that in itself is illegal.

 

 

note that the link refers to dealers - private sales have very little legal rights for this kind of thing.

 

altering the mileage is not illegal in itself - there are hundreds of legit "mileage correction" companies out there - how much of the work carried out is legit is another thing completely LOL.

Rob, 2 things. 1) If you've had the converter fitted but the readings for speed are totally inaccurate, maybe something other than the clocks is wrong? Worth checking. I say this because both of the converters fitted by Zedworld to my Zeds worked fine in changing the speeds to be correct (as close as I could tell by my GPS).

 

2) If you are changing the clocks to UK, then IMO it would be OK to change the miles reading on the new odometer to match the kmh/divided by 1.609 to get miles from the old odometer. i.e if your km odo says 80,000km then the correct reading on the miles odo would be 49,720m. And if you put that info on a doc which goes with the car for any new purchaser, you should be covered. Just like Zedworld's conversion certificates.

 

The speed reading is about 10 KM out, I.e. 70mph reads as 80 on the dial. Ref point 2, that's exactly what I'm planning to do, so in my opinion totally legal.

@ Paul C - yes but altering the mileage in order to get a better price or make a sale is criminal fraud whether it's a private sale or a dealer.

@ rob - if you're saying the dial over-reads by 10mph compared to real speed, then that's a bit high. But many speedos over-read by a few % anyway. Be interesting to see if your UK clocks are any better. Are you still using the right size of wheel/tyre combination on the car? That can affect speedo reading as well by a few %.

Erm no it's on 18's. The comparison is with a tom-tom sat nav, I'm noticed that the speed given on this is different to the wife's new XC60, so it's probably about right.

There is a tire size calculator which comes with the 300ZX Manual CD but I can't work out how to post that. I found this one http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html which has a seal of approval from the Oz forum http://www.aus300zx.com/forum/showthread.php?t=182032.

 

Bung in your tyre size and see what it says.

@ Paul C - yes but altering the mileage in order to get a better price or make a sale is criminal fraud whether it's a private sale or a dealer.

 

that may be true but proving it was the owner that altered it is another thing altogether - he could say that it was like it when he bought it.

 

even getting it enforced would be a struggle.

 

buying from a dealer means if they sold it they are responsible - as a private buyer you are largely responsible.

 

anyway - we are talking about the owner here carrying out a mileage correction to indicate a true reading which is perfectly legal!

 

:)

@ Paul C - lots of ways to prove something dodgy has gone on. For one, mileage recorded at MOT or declared on V5 etc. Not always possible but can be done. And if it is a criminal fraud, the status of dealer or private does not come into it. The person carrying out the fraud is the criminal. What the dealer rules refer to is that IF they state a mileage, they must stand by it (hence the usual get-out statements of mileage not warranted or whatever - which gets them out of legal liability behind the mileage on the clocks.)

 

In rob's case where the issue is how to show a true reading, there's no issue. It's what Zedworld and I'm sure many others do and I had it done to 2 of my Zeds.

 

But if some lowlife changes the mileage shown in order to make a sale or get a better price, that's a crime whether it's private or trader. Quite right too.