ever since buying my zed i liked the idea of a turbo timer. i know its advised to just keep of the boost for the last few miles, but i'm not allways able to plan when i'm going to stop. so for ease (and also i think there a bit cool) i woudn't mind fitting one. however trying to find some one to fit one is not turning out to be too easy. every place i ring either doesn't fit them, or just ask me to ring back at a later date. i wouldn't mind having ago and fitting one myself (just turns out i am an electrician) but to my understanding the imobiliser would have to be bypassed to allow the car to lock and the engine to keep running. so i wasn't to keen on tampering with that myself as it would void the warrenty. but i'm not entirley sure if this is the way its done.

 

my understanding of it is that you remove your keys from the ignition and walk away with the car still running (for a preset time or one that is worked out via the revs of the last few miles) and then lock the car, when the engine cuts out, the imobiliser is armed. or does the car have to be locked after the timer times out. to me, the latter would be pointless.

 

same as remote engine starts, i have found someone that is willing to fit this to my existing alarm for a price of £80. My understanding of a remote engine start would be that i would be able to wake up in the morning, point my fob out of my window and start my engine with the car remaining locked. I can then continue to get ready for work and then emerge 10 mins later, unlock my car, climb in with the engine having reached a suitable temperature and proceed to drive to work. is this correct?

 

The alarm in question is a toad Ai606, the fitter that offered to fit the remote start is a registered toad installer, and did ask specifically if this alarm was fitted, so i'm sure the starter will corrispond with the alarm and imobiliser system.

 

so was just wondering if anyone has had somthing similar fitted, or has fitted somthing similar themselves.

any advice would be greatly appreciated.

 

Steve

there pritty pointless. I have one fitted to mine on the radio surround. But you can only arm your car once it is turned off. so whats the point lol!!!!!

 

I bought a new surround and kept the timer behind the panel and turned off :lol:

 

I do know of a lad who could arm his fiat coupe while it was running so it must be possible.

 

They can also void your insurance :rolleyes:

I had one fitted to my Supra. it even spoke in Japanese lol.

 

I think they're also pretty pointless too. If you have been going heavy on the boost just sit in the car for an extra minute when you arrive at your destination. job done. :)

Well i think they are good as i can be happy that my turbos have cooled down before i turn the car off and hence prevent damage. If i have just come off the motorway and pull up straight away it will be on about 2 minutes but then again by the time you have come off and got to where ever you are parking mine is normally down to zero or about 30 seconds. I too cant arm the alarm but i dont jump out the car as soon as i park ready to head off so as i walk away i arm the car once its stopped.

it does really seem pointless if the alarm can't be armed with engine runnning. it does just mean something is fitted that allows you to hold your keys outside of the car and then watch it turn off. if i have to wait for it to turn off, then i may aswell wait with the car inside. at the moment if i have being heavy on the boost i just tend to have a smoke while it spools down. but as i said thats not allways practical. somtimes i'll be running late and i'll have to run inside tesco to get some bait for work, so after giving it the beans (due to running late) i then feel its wasted because i feel guilty as sin turning it off after pulling up, so therfore i need to wait.

 

anybody had a remote engine start?

You can always lock it with the keys if needed for a quick run in. The thing i like about my turbo timer is it will work out how much time it needs to cool down as it is connected into all the relevant wires to work this out and you just have to calibrate it a little. Therefore im not waiting say 2 minutes as i know when i pull up how much time i need and can get out the car when it is on say 10 seconds

i can arm mine fine whilst still running, and the remote locks work, so for me it makes complete sense and is not pointless at all,

 

I can check what alarm system it is if you like? dont know it of the top of my head,

summit just does'nt check in with walking away from the car with the motor running:no: for this reason ive never had or never will fit one..

i can arm mine fine whilst still running, and the remote locks work, so for me it makes complete sense and is not pointless at all,

 

I can check what alarm system it is if you like? dont know it of the top of my head,

 

yes please bud. i was sure it was possible, just didn't know how. is the turbo timer part of the alarm or is it a seperate box?

ive got engine remote start have to admit never used it got cracking alarm immob setup clifford avant guard 4 afew years old now but insurance company would not insure me because of enginr remote start so had to have another viper system fitted with the clifford.

to be honest i don't think they'll be getting told about the remote start.

When you need a pee and you cant hold on they would come in handy , always happens to me lol

ive got engine remote start have to admit never used it got cracking alarm immob setup clifford avant guard 4 afew years old now but insurance company would not insure me because of enginr remote start so had to have another viper system fitted with the clifford.

 

did the car stay locked when the engine started?

Remote start is no good for the car,great for 17 year olds in Saxos at Mcdonalds to impress a 15yr old bird.Its not good for any car to be left idling on cold start,ALL car makers ive come across advise to start the car and drive off straight away to reduce engine damage caused by bore washing.

but i thought due to heat expansion due to a cold start this could do more damage? does it differ if the revs are are altered instead of idle? or does it have to be under load to prevent damage? does the same count for warm idle? such as turbo timers?

but i thought due to heat expansion due to a cold start this could do more damage? does it differ if the revs are are altered instead of idle? or does it have to be under load to prevent damage? does the same count for warm idle? such as turbo timers?

 

for the last question, i dont thimk it does at warm because its fueling correctly, at cold when idling the engine is overfueling. thatswhat i can gather any way

Start the car,give it a second and pull away,its simple as that.If your using a quality oil it wont be a problem.Cold start is done by the car injecting excess fuel to richen the mixture for the initial start,after this air and fuel are added at increased levels to keep the car running at a higher rpm to increase heat throughout the engine.if your cars stood still it will never use the increased amounts of fuel which then runs down the bores,strips oil off causing wear to the rings.A 300zx which uses the boost solenoids still will NOT allow full boost till the ecu sees the correct running temp.But regardless of that every car makers handbook ive read says the same,start and drive away,do not allow to idle :nono:

to tell the truth i cant remember been that long but once you put your foot on brake it stalls and arms itself.

Start the car,give it a second and pull away,its simple as that.If your using a quality oil it wont be a problem.Cold start is done by the car injecting excess fuel to richen the mixture for the initial start,after this air and fuel are added at increased levels to keep the car running at a higher rpm to increase heat throughout the engine.if your cars stood still it will never use the increased amounts of fuel which then runs down the bores,strips oil off causing wear to the rings.A 300zx which uses the boost solenoids still will NOT allow full boost till the ecu sees the correct running temp.But regardless of that every car makers handbook ive read says the same,start and drive away,do not allow to idle :nono:

 

Yet another well worded informed answer :thumbup: And much appreciated. I've been letting mine 'warm up' for a minute or two before driving off. :thumbdown: I won't be doing that anymore!!

Remote start is no good for the car,great for 17 year olds in Saxos at Mcdonalds to impress a 15yr old bird.Its not good for any car to be left idling on cold start,ALL car makers ive come across advise to start the car and drive off straight away to reduce engine damage caused by bore washing.

 

HAve to say I'm a bit surprised by this..

 

Would seem logical to allow your engine to build some heat befor putting it under load. As the adverts say - most engine wear occurs within the first few minutes of starting the engine befor the oil has time to warm up and cling to the moving parts.. Surely putting it under load during those times will only make things worse?

 

I've heard many different things about what you should and shouldn't do with an engine, many of them contradictary - I'm no expert either - but I think common sense is the way forward.

 

Remote engine start sounds like a good idea in winter, to avoid those hands-stuck-to-the-wheel icy starts! But if they invalidate your insurance I'd think twice about fitting one and not telling them - what if they find out? Turbo timers are also a good idea - but both can be driven around and are not essential. Don't thrash your motor until up to temp and take it easy for the last few miles (i.e: plan ahead!). Try getting up a bit earlier and giving yourself longer to make journeys - you'll also feel less stressed and not have to worry about cooking your turbos! Do I sound old? I just heard my dad then...

 

cheers

I think its all about being sensible. Just take it easy no need to rev these cars from cold, I tend to start mine and move of straight away. Although my drive is awkward to get out of, have to do a 3 point turn on it and then mess about getting over the cattlegrid and onto the road so I dont rip the nose of. Probably takes me 30 seconds or so of rumbling about at 1500 rpm. No real load on the engine but not sat at idle either. THen iv got a 100 yards to a T junction no real speed. Then its all pretty much down hill to the village. Its a nice warm up exercise! of low revs but we are moving and the engine is working.

 

I cringe at cars being revved and driven hard from a cold start, but also from them being left to idle warm. Loads of wear, loads of fuel consumption!

Am I right in thinking 'bore-wash' only occurs at idle?

 

Otherwise it would happen even when moving, right? So on that basis you could sit there blipping the throttle (not redlining it, obviously) and avoid 'bore-wash'? Oui? Non?:saddam:

HAve to say I'm a bit surprised by this..

 

Would seem logical to allow your engine to build some heat befor putting it under load. As the adverts say - most engine wear occurs within the first few minutes of starting the engine befor the oil has time to warm up and cling to the moving parts.. Surely putting it under load during those times will only make things worse?

 

I've heard many different things about what you should and shouldn't do with an engine, many of them contradictary - I'm no expert either - but I think common sense is the way forward.

 

Remote engine start sounds like a good idea in winter, to avoid those hands-stuck-to-the-wheel icy starts! But if they invalidate your insurance I'd think twice about fitting one and not telling them - what if they find out? Turbo timers are also a good idea - but both can be driven around and are not essential. Don't thrash your motor until up to temp and take it easy for the last few miles (i.e: plan ahead!). Try getting up a bit earlier and giving yourself longer to make journeys - you'll also feel less stressed and not have to worry about cooking your turbos! Do I sound old? I just heard my dad then...

 

cheers

 

The oil should already be coated around everything anyway from when you last drove it.Your engine is designed to be driven straight away,its not a formula 1 engine which is nigh on seized then heated to free up.Driving a car is the quickest way to warm the engine,load on the engine increases friction which produces heat.A static engine has very little load and will never warm up to the running temp of a driven one.This will not damage your engine FACT.

i got a remote start on mine . the only advantage i can think of is getting the heater blowing warm air on a cold frosty morning before you get in. mine stays locked and alarmed while running . if you open it up and try to drive after its been started on the remote it cuts out as soon as you touch the throttle so you gotta turn it off with remote and turn back on with the key .

 

on the down side i was working on it one day with the fob in my pocket and the bloody thing started up . so now you gotta leave the keys somewhere out of the way while working on it . not a good idea.

i have a remote start what i do is press the start button on the fob when i have stoped the Engine continues to run take keys out of the Ignition lock via the fob after a couple of mins press the start button again Engine stops

Edited September 1, 201015 yr by brett300zx

hi guys, ive got a remote start and a turbo timer and i love them both. The remote start is very convenient for warming up the car whilest im undoors. as we have great british weather it is usually raining and cold so the remote start is convenient (besides the fact that girls like it :) ) and the turbo timer is another helpful gadget, i keep mine set on 30 seconds. If you get a remote start fitted i would advise you to make sure all of your electrics are up to date otherwise the remote start could cause problems.

My remote start vid is not that clear as i wanted to wait until i haave done my interior properly, but have a look anyway...

http://www.youtube.com/user/VICTHEREALEST?feature=mhum

you can see my mates burnouts aswell.