Hi

 

I'm new to the 300zx world and was wondering if to go for a zed or a mitsubishi gto?

 

I've asked around, and apparently the zed can be very expensive and has turbo failures? A chap at work has told me the gto snaps cambelts regularly?! is this true? he advised me to go for neither though??! i have around 5 grand to spend....

I have heard bad things about GTO/GT2000 Engines. If your worried about turbo problems get an N/A.

And P.S This is a 300zx Club, so your question is a bit daft mate LOL.

Edited April 24, 201015 yr by KIM

And P.S This is a 300zx Club, so your question is a bit daft mate LOL.

 

What he said ;)

I have a zed and a supra and i would pick the zed over the supra anyday. Just has more feel and is more of a drivers car

 

I love Gtos there looks are stunning (facelift) but i have never wanted to own one. Dash looks really old and i dont like the build quality of mitsubusi's then have a cheap feel. they are also pritty boring to drive (lifless) and a pig to work on

one of the clubs im with has all three of the 3.0 TT cars, the gto, supra, 300zx, and we have this agreement all the time, there is no simple answer,

 

performance wise they're similar, except my z seems to accelerate for longer when the other 2 start to give up, the supra is hands down easier to work one, the gto is like a Z no space to work at all, the gto isn't that well made compared to the other 2, has had alot more faults, and as for looks all three are great looking cars but the Zed is a love or hate car,

 

but at the end of the day i can see why you'd buy any of them, i made my choice, and im sure our arguments will continue...

 

good luck with your decision ....

Zed everytime

What are you expecting us to say on a Z club forum? Go for the GTO? :rofl:

 

I know, I'll go over to Z28.com and ask them if they think I should go for a Mustang or Camaro? :rofl:

Edited April 24, 201015 yr by FunkySi

Hi

 

I'm new to the 300zx world and was wondering if to go for a zed or a mitsubishi gto?

 

I've asked around, and apparently the zed can be very expensive and has turbo failures? A chap at work has told me the gto snaps cambelts regularly?! is this true? he advised me to go for neither though??! i have around 5 grand to spend....

 

both amazing cars both have there problems but that rumour of GTO's snapping cambelts all the time is crap.

 

ive had a GTO for 3 years and not a single fault.

Hi

 

I'm new to the 300zx world and was wondering if to go for a zed or a mitsubishi gto?

 

I've asked around, and apparently the zed can be very expensive and has turbo failures? A chap at work has told me the gto snaps cambelts regularly?! is this true? he advised me to go for neither though??! i have around 5 grand to spend....

 

Erm.

Get the one you prefer. Test drive plenty and buy the best you can. They are both nice cars if you buy a good to excellent example.

Both require expensive maintainence and both can have expensive failures.

Both cars are now getting on!

I have an excellent example of a Zed TT, well it was...the tubs have started to smoke.

Funny, my friend as a GTO and his cambelt recently failed! It cost around £2200 to rebuild his top end! It will probably cost me the same to change my tubs!

So like I said, buy your preference. But only buy one if you can afford to keep it and repair it as needed. Parts/labour for both are expensive.

Otherwise get an Astra turbo!!

Turbo failures ? The same as any Turbocharged car - Most turbos are made by the same big manufacturers, in the case of the 300zx its Garrett. Average turbo lifespan is typically anythign from 70k-120k

 

There are plenty of reviews and info on the net about both models.

 

No real point asking a 300zx forum which they prefer though., but If you want personal opinions then the GTO is ugly and overweight. Its interior is a bit on the cheap side and its harder to work on than a Z. Its 4wd grip is an advantage in poor weather, but more of a disadvadvantage in dry weather. I've only ever worked on and driven one GTO. Driving experience was "ok" from what I remember, but was a pig to work on, vowed not to touch one again.

Edited April 24, 201015 yr by Yowser

Looks - I'd pick the GTO over the Z, both facelift and prefacelift look utterly drop dead gorgeous in white.

 

Interior - again I'd pick the GTO, I just like the design of it but it's hugely subjective - I have a Z with grey tweed it doesn't get worse so that's just plain bad luck

 

Engine - dear god the Z EVERY TIME, the gto's aren't that fast, the z as standard doesn't FEEL fast but it does the job, I'm about to find out what the 14psi upgrade/ecu/open exhaust/fmic job feels like so I'm sure the feeling will change considerably, and it's also a cheap car to tune bolt-on wize, pleanty of second hand bits on the go!

 

Driving - yep, the Z, the 4wd isn't a brilliant system on the GTO it's nowhere near as sure footed as an impreza, it feels a bit more like a cruiser - like a soarer for example to drive but with a bit more oomph.

 

I've had or had extensive passanger seat time in the cars above so talking from some experience. Frankly my Z isn't all daisies, it has pleanty little flaws which once they become a real problem will require expensive and time consuming repairs, but the same can be said for any high performance car which is getting on.

 

The only big boy I havent had a try of is a supra twin turbo, I seriously want a crack in one, they are certainly the nicest interior wize!

Hi

 

I'm new to the 300zx world and was wondering if to go for a zed or a mitsubishi gto?

 

I've asked around, and apparently the zed can be very expensive and has turbo failures? A chap at work has told me the gto snaps cambelts regularly?! is this true? he advised me to go for neither though??! i have around 5 grand to spend....

 

where abouts are you located? my gto is highly modified so not exactly going to be a fair comparison but ill take you out for a passenger ride if you want.

I'd say the Z is the one to have but it's down to personal taste, the Z is very like a supercar, it wil be expensive if it breaks and it probably will at some point as it is a complicated car.

It also is a very rewarding car as far as a driving machine is concerned.

The person who said buy neither is very wrong.... buy a ferrai and depending which one ya buy it will have problems, buy a lamborghini and expect the same, bothe of those will be expensive to the extreme compared with the 300zx tho.

if you want performance buy the nearest thing to a supercar you can get (300ZX twin turbo).. if ya worried about service bills and general economy buy a Honda jazz.

LOL & funki si

 

Zed anytime

5k will get you a cracking zed, GTO is a car i also looked at when buying the zed and the drive IMO was nowhere near as fun or sure footed as the zed. Remember all cars this age will crop up with issues as some point, just buy a clean, well serviced car and believe me you will tell if a zed has been looked after in the way it will drive. Test drive loads mate the difference is staggering.

 

BUY A ZED LOL

Erm.

Get the one you prefer. Test drive plenty and buy the best you can. They are both nice cars if you buy a good to excellent example.

Both require expensive maintainence and both can have expensive failures.

Both cars are now getting on!

I have an excellent example of a Zed TT, well it was...the tubs have started to smoke.

Funny, my friend as a GTO and his cambelt recently failed! It cost around £2200 to rebuild his top end! It will probably cost me the same to change my tubs!

So like I said, buy your preference. But only buy one if you can afford to keep it and repair it as needed. Parts/labour for both are expensive.

Otherwise get an Astra turbo!!

 

Thanks for all the replys guys......And the offers of passenger rides! why an astra craigy? i've been suggested a focus rs, but not an astra

you can have my zed if you want!! **post edited, only subscribed members are allowed to advertise through this forum** thanks

Edited April 27, 201015 yr by ck300z
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Had a ride in my mates gto the other week and it kinda felt undewhelming, its a twin turbo but just didnt really do it for me. The cabin is very cramped and the plastics on the dash etc felt very cheap for such an expensive car. The zed just feels much more a quality car and more comfortable up front, however the rear seems slightly better for room as the roof isnt as low.

Thanks for all the replys guys......And the offers of passenger rides! why an astra craigy? i've been suggested a focus rs, but not an astra

 

I've owned 2 Astra Mk4 GSI turbos (53reg), the 2nd one was running 260bhp.

It was a very quick, very reliable, very usable car. That was cheap to repair and cheap(ish) to run.

It had 8 airbags, ESP, traction control etc etc so pretty safe too.

TBH it was an excellent everyday hothatch. And it kept pace on the bends with my mates RS Focus (early one) and was FASTER on the straights. The brakes were also excellent.

 

Interior - again I'd pick the GTO, I just like the design of it but it's hugely subjective - I have a Z with grey tweed it doesn't get worse so that's just plain bad luck

 

 

It's just the material in series 1 Z32s that let it down. The shape is infinitely more appealing than the ugly shape of the GTO's dash. It's messy and ungainly.

 

 

I've driven both and the interior of the Z is a much more pleasant place to be.

 

The Z is infinately better in my opinion, my 2 best mates have a GTO and a Supra, so we're constantly in competiton. But they all agree the interior of the Z is far nicer, much more refined and spacious even in the back - although the headroom is a little restricted, but legroom is slightly larger I find in the Z. Plus more to my liking, the dash actually faces the whole of the cabin in the Z, whereas the Supra and GTO's do not, they face the driver.. and the GTO's stereo is kind of mounted below and pointing upwards slightly to the gearstick which is cack imo - the GTO dash is too plasticy as mentioned as well as the styling is something to be desired. Finally, Z's have T-Top/Glass Roofs (Rooves)... Yet to see a GTO with that, although I think they may have made 1 in Japan.. or the US.. badged Stealth... Z all the Way, anyday.

 

Plus, more to your question, about them snapping cambelts & failing turbos.. I would say that is all down to how each individual car has been driven/maintained.. You have to bare in mind these are 20+ year old cars, which are still going strong, and which also have incredibly strong fan bases and forums.. They have the strong fan bases because they are reliable when properly maintained and still have years of driving pleasure left in them. They were way too over-engineered for there times as they were designed to be, therefore in theory, they should be just as reliable as anything you can buy right now, as some features on modern cars are coming with features the Z has, standard, 20 years later.

Edited April 27, 201015 yr by 300ZX_DRE

Yup, the 'Dodge Stealth' was a rebadged version of the GTO. The 2wd NA version is FWD!!!!

Looks, I'd take the Z anyday. As for the turbos breaking, like has been said before it can happen to any of them. That's why I went for an n/a. It's my daily driver so I wanted reliability.

The dodge stealth was indeed a gto platform with some less than subtle body changes including a different deck spoiler just behind the rear screen. If you can find a dodge stealth then you have the advantage of really cheap insurance as it's classed as an american classic. They are very rare in this country. I tried to get one on several occasions.

Peter

Edited April 27, 201015 yr by pbryant_knight

erm................. zed, aye...

I've owned 2 Astra Mk4 GSI turbos (53reg), the 2nd one was running 260bhp.

It was a very quick, very reliable, very usable car. That was cheap to repair and cheap(ish) to run.

It had 8 airbags, ESP, traction control etc etc so pretty safe too.

TBH it was an excellent everyday hothatch. And it kept pace on the bends with my mates RS Focus (early one) and was FASTER on the straights. The brakes were also excellent.

 

Hi everyone, managed to get arun out in a focus rs and by chance his mate had a vxr astra, compared the rs felt so much quicker and sounded quicker to......the big bonus is the mate of a mate has a friend with a zed, so test drive coming up, hopefully it'll feel quicker than the rs :) thanks for allthe advice again.....

It'll feel completely different than the Focus and the Astra. Both the two hot hatches are very snappy cars that'll feel a lot more nimble than the Z32. So your judgement maybe clouded somewhat. The Z is in its element through the mid range powerband. It's a GT car, not a traffic light grand prix hot hatch.