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Swapped my N/A for a 1990 twin turbo, and had it running today, noticed that the left hand side turbo is leaking water, but there doesn't seem to be any coolent in the water??? Even though I've given it fresh coolent change today? Also although the drivers side is smoking, it doest seem as though it's the oil seals on the turbo as it doesn't smell of burnt oil? Can the water seals in the turbo go?

 

Also it looks like it's still got the original exhuast on from 20 years ago, and when revved, spits out crap loads of water out of both pipes, it was that bad you could here it gurggling on idle, good thing is it holds it's temp and doesn't over heat, can't work out how so much water is getting into the exhaust system and it isn't even got coolent in it?

 

Also been under the car and had a good poke about, and everything is looking very good. It idles nicely, and revs past 2500, checked the airfilter but no water there any ideas?

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did it spit the water from the exhaust pipe while the engine was still cold, or had the car reached operating temp ?

 

:)

Why dont you just buy one that works from the start.

 

The amout of time and money you have spent on the 2 will be nuts imo. Sorry i cannot help with your question ;) :lol:

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did it spit the water from the exhaust pipe while the engine was still cold, or had the car reached operating temp ?

 

:)

 

Both lol, the windscreen gets replaced tomorrow so will get some piccys up, it's been sprayed black from the original gray, but can't say it's the best of jobs

 

I'll try and get a video of it too, thought it might of been headgasket failure at one point but the fumes from the zorts doesn't smell of coolent either? It does sound like a injector isn't firing though as there is a tapping (not knocking) coming from the same side as the smoky tub.

"both" ?

 

What I´m getting at is "were the exhaust pipes hot" ?

 

then as you probably know water is a by-product of the combustion of fuel. fuel contains hydrogen, and when it´s combusted, some of that hydrogen combines with the oxygen producing water.

 

Usually, when the exhaust is hot enough the water exits in the form of invisible water vapor. However, when the engine is cold or/and the exhaust pipe not hot enough, water can condense and become visible as liquid water dripping from the exhaust pipe.

 

:)

 

Maz

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Why dont you just buy one that works from the start.

The amout of time and money you have spent on the 2 will be nuts imo. Sorry i cannot help with your question ;) :lol:

 

That was the plan lol. just didn't work out like that. and anyway, where would the fun be if i didn't have to do anything? :D

 

Car.Mad PM me a price of a fiber glass spoiler please.

 

Right as I'm now using a PC instead of a phone. i can say whats really wrong with it.

 

Windscreen smashed, but getting that fixed tomorrow.

 

Windscreen wipers not working? might be a fuse, I'm yet to check

 

Windscreen jets not working. might be a fuse, yet to check lol

 

Need left hand windscreen jet nozzle as this has snapped at the pipe end

 

passenger side wing mirror (this is still attached but the mirror is broken, as it looks like its taken a knock at some point)

 

Rear screen wiper needs a new blade (hardly an issue lol)

 

Needs a new aerial

 

replacement spoiler as the one on it is just held on by two clips at the moment.

 

Need to refit the rear lights as they have been removed at some point and

not been fitted back in flush with the body work.

 

Drivers side turbo is smoking (although might be something else, further investigation is needed)

 

Passenger side turbo seems to be leaking water of some sort. but might not even be the turbo, just looks like it from under the car as that's where the dripping is coming from, only leaks when engine running?

 

Need the clips to hold the boot blind to the boot lid as these are missing.

 

Replace the plastic covering behind the release handle for the drivers side targa

 

Aircon pod not working, i get no temp settings. or anything, might be a fuse or it might be the pod not plugged in as this also houses the windscreen wiper functions.

 

Digital clock not working (typical lol)

 

Bulb on the passenger side fog light needs replacing as its not working, drivers side fog is fine. and also a break light bulb as well on the drivers side.

 

Tapping noise in time with the engine revs. might be a faulty injector so going to remove the plugs and have a look at the wires first before taking the top of the engine apart for a more detail examination.

 

and apart from cosmetics that's not bad for a 20 year old car lol

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"both" ?

 

What I´m getting at is "were the exhaust pipes hot" ?

 

then as you probably know water is a by-product of the combustion of fuel. fuel contains hydrogen, and when it´s combusted, some of that hydrogen combines with the oxygen producing water.

 

Usually, when the exhaust is hot enough the water exits in the form of invisible water vapor. However, when the engine is cold or/and the exhaust pipe not hot enough, water can condense and become visible as liquid water dripping from the exhaust pipe.

 

:)

 

Maz

 

Had the car running for almost an hour, the exhaust was hot enough, but it was still dripping heavily from both pipes. and when you revved the car to 6k revs, its spat it out the rear in a line around 4 inches long behind both pipes. when it was idling you could hear the water gurgling away, like what a drain pipe sounds like when air is pushed through it with water blocking the way? very strange.

 

It might be that the car has been stood a long time. and that its collected lots of condensation into the exhaust that its formed into pools of water rather than droplets so needs to evaporate more before it fully clears.

 

Also, going to need to change the timing belt. although it was changed less than 12k miles ago, that 12k miles was 2001 to present. so cant see the belt standing the test of time that well tbh.

isn't the gurgling noise something to do with the AIVs? I seem to recall seeing something on that. You'll end up with a better car than your other was would ever have been, so good move! :thumbup:

Most likely to be condensation from the exhaust, the gurgling noise will be from the AIV pipe work under the front wings.

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http://www.300zx.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=51142&highlight=head+gasket+failure

 

this thread from waaaaay back in the day (lol) has the same symptoms as me. white smoke not black or blue. heavy on the drivers side moderate on the passenger side.

 

Please note the exhaust from the cat back boxes. is joined in the center just after the bolting stage. so might be some excess smoke creeping in from the drivers side. but the gurgling is from the back of the exhaust not from near the wing. and there is plenty of water in the pipes.

 

Was going to put my oval back boxes on (damn they're big once off the car) but the bolts that hold the exhaust on just after the cats, need melting off, and someone has welded the passenger side exhaust back box pipe work to the cat? so going to have to melt that off too lol.

 

All the original pipe work is there for the exhaust and all still connected. that's what makes me believe that the zorst that's on it. is the one it originally exited the showroom with when first bought.

 

Anyone know what the symptoms of a suspected head gasket failure is?

 

Engine seems like it has good compression. no smell of burning coolant. no smell of burning oil. its white smoke not black or blue as stated already. could it even be whats suggested in that old thread about the PCV valves?

 

And would the rapid ticking be a faulty injector?

hello sir, first of all, sorry about the niggly problems, didnt realise the pod didnt work?? if you need anything let me know ye?

 

now the ticking? it only does it for a few secs from cold then clears, (tappet'ey type of noise) not sure what else your on about?

 

it defiantly smokes blue on passenger side and smells like 2 stroke, and to top it off the passenger side turbo whistles loudly, so im 99.9 percent its just the turbo..

 

water from the turbo area? a/c maby?? duno,, is the water level going down then?

 

it defiantly dosent over heat and im certain the head gasket is fine,

 

the gargling noise,, go to the fuse box under the bonnet (whilst running) and pull the "eng cont" relay out, i'll think you'l find the garrgling will stop, thats your aiv's, my last n/a zed was a noisy gargler. but put relay back in after as im not sure if it runs anything else?

 

im sure someone will come along and correct me on some of these things but i dont think its serious bud,,

 

oh and the steam out of the exhaust? well, its not been taxed till december,, so may need a long run/thrash

 

hope you get it all done ok and good luck

Why dont you just buy one that works from the start.

 

 

because they cost like a grand or so more than ones that need work,

 

so even though they probably cost the same in the long run at least we can do them up bit by bit, when and as we have money, plus its somthing to do when the misses gets on my nerves!! :lol:

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Well don't worry to much about it matey, I'm loving the car to be perfectly honest, and I'm happy I did the swap, so please do not take this as a "if I had known...." thread.

Always something that gets overlooked or missed. Anyway I enjoy the challange and it's a TT like I always wanted. :) so thank you.

 

I agree there was a oily smell With blue smoke yesterday when you showed me. But it's now White smoke an only the smell of normal exhaust gasses. In fact it hardly smokes on first start and when idling now, only when revved.

 

Quick question for those in the know, can a left hand turbo be fitted to the right hand side of the engine if the turbine housing is changed?

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because they cost like a grand or so more than ones that need work,

 

so even though they probably cost the same in the long run at least we can do them up bit by bit, when and as we have money, plus its somthing to do when the misses gets on my nerves!! :lol:

 

:bow: :clap:

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i have an electric aerial if you are after one, infact i have two

 

Am indeed pm me please, yeah it's still got the cats on.

 

Yay just had the windscreen fixed will get some photos up loaded soon as I get to my PC

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Here are the photos of today's progress, windscreen renewal

 

To help the guy out, bonnet removed, cowling removed an weather strips taken off, already for him to arrive and start work, making it much faster for him, not only that, means hes not damaging any of my fixtures.

 

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Bloke arrived and quickly tapped up the window and started to remove it.

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ooh pretty, windscreen removed. bonnet in the boot lol, yes it fits and safest place for it tbh

 

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yay my new screen

 

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The perspex bonnet mod looked awesome...

 

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looking lovely

 

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go faster stripes didn't quite work out as planned.

 

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More shots just for the fun of it, why is the Zed so photogenic?

 

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Ass end

 

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Paint job looks ok here too, just noticed im missing the rear spoiler brake light. something else to add to my must get list. always have loved the OEM older spoiler. makes the back end of the car look so much sexier

 

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nothing better than a new widow screen. wheels look great :thumbup:

 

I had to replace my window on the mr2 cost me £675 because i wanst insured for it. just fitted 10 min into the 1st drive. smack massive stone hit it and cracked it again. so i had to buy another one. pissed off isnt the word :death:

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nothing better than a new widow screen. wheels look great :thumbup:

 

I had to replace my window on the mr2 cost me £675 because i wasn't insured for it. just fitted 10 min into the 1st drive. smack massive stone hit it and cracked it again. so i had to buy another one. pissed off isnt the word :death:

 

Ouch, tbh i don't even know if I'm covered for windscreens, but seemed a bit cheeky ringing them up and asking them for a car id only just got lol

 

Looks good with out the wipers on the front screen too lol, haven't refitted them yet. still want the bonding to dry fully before i put all fittings back in place.

 

Wheels will be all fully paid for soon, cant wait to finally say they they are mine. they look really good on both cars now. have to admit I'm missing the lowered stance of the silver one. but not the fact i couldn't get a jack under it, handy safety device though for Craig's wheels. if no one can jack the car up, they cant nick the things. doesnt matter now though, its nice and safely tucked away in a garage. and the fit is very tight. had to have the drivers window down and the targa off just to get out lol

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thought they looked like craigs. Look really good :devil2:

 

CraigTT if your reading this, skip this post lol

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I know, I'm surprised he hasn't wanted them back to put on his new car yet

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Right, this is what my car is now doing, please note the water under the tail pipes (not the trainers lol)

 

and here is the nice puddle i get under the passenger side turbo, and it is losing coolent, as i had to top the rad up again today,

 

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Water from the tail pipes. it gurgles at the tail pipes, not from the wings.

 

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ooh looks like you got yourself a garage! :thumbup:

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ooh looks like you got yourself a garage! :thumbup:

 

Yeah got it the same day i made that post. any insight into my smoke?

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