is there a guide somewhere to remove the tubs from the engine or is it a case of suck it and see,. oh! forgot the engine is out of the car.

If the engine is out then you just undo the bolts :confused:

what i ment was im going to send the tubs away as an exchagne and didnt want to get back ones with parts missing?

now looking at taking the tubs of,buy the look of things do i need to take of the manifold.then take of the tubs because they look like a pig to get to.

No they just unbolt from the manifold.

Dead easy if the engine is out.

Just a little fiddly with the clips that are on the screws so just take your time.

jot one of wiyhout taking manifold of ,get in.