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I was looking at the HD4890 as i've also read they run a lot cooler. Next gen cards are mega bucks may go with the 4870x2 if I can get it at the right price(was looking at a used one about the £180 mark). Looks like I could get about £90-£100 for a used 1gb 4870 if I sell mine failing that if the hd5870's are good might wait till they come down in price a little Speaking of cases I just swapped my case 2 days ago from a silver soprano to a black one below. The card I have now is a powercolour with a heatpipe cooler which would probably clock a bit more than stock but not tried it. I suppose I could download the crysis bench tool to see what it can do stock and clocked. I've also not tampered with the cpu clocks I have same chip as you to a q9550. I had a q6600 before this one but the board was not fussed on it :turned: Just had a read here http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3643&p=1 at the HD5870 really does look like a top card. Must start saving

i'm thinking of changing my HD4870 1Gb to a single slot HD4870X2 2Gb solution as it looks like its gonna be the best option for higher res stuff for around £200 my question is... will any pci-e x16 single slot board support one of these or does it have to be a crossfire board? if it's any use I have an Asus P5QC board TIA

not read too much about it in fear of finding a spoiler. All i know is it's set 10 years later in Rapture:ninja::hyper:

Cool you could swap the card yourself if you needed to later on as games get newer and sell the 4850. I want an i7 rig :sad: gonna wait a while 'til I can justify it. That is a good deal though there's a lot of stuff there :thumbup: plus you haven't got the hassle of building it. also just noticed it's the same as your first choice one in the start of thread but £250 cheaper

I did the good ending but had to watch the bad ending on youtube to see what happened:devil:

hope you all took the good ending in the 1st one :angel:

if this i7 deal is 64bit vista(I assume it will be due to the amount of ram) then that looks pretty good only thing is that it's a refurb by the looks, quite a good spec that though. If only they would give a bit more info. Graphics cards now take "huge" amounts of power so if you were to upgrade your graphics in the future you may have to do the psu too. I think the 4850's are ok I have the next one up from that and runs everything I have thrown at it so far. the i7 is the best way to go I think as newer games are going to utilise them. Looking at it your actually getting quite a lot for your money there at face value

Happy Birthday :happybday: hope you have a good one

An old thread I know but at long last........................................................................................... BioShock 2 Due for release on 09/02/2010 info lifted from play.com http://www.play.com/Games/PC/4-/5307540/BioShock-2/Product.html

bioshock now £3.49 and killing floor £3.74 it just gets better they had prey on there earlier for £1.34 but it's sold out now anyone played killing floor? quite fancy that, it looks ok

http://uk.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26339815

oblivion is hungry, crysis

+1 here according to the vista gadget thingy think i'll put my shorts on

oops just noticed thats a phenom 9550 lol I have the intel q9550( http://www.ebuyer.com/product/141515 ) ???? err don't know if it rocks in the same light...... the phenoms are ok though

that's a bargain :thumbup1: I have the 9550 and it rocks:punk: you could always flog the graphics card at a later date for a bigger one if it don't do want you want

ebuyer rules :ninja:

that's not a bad unit that , good case , good quality & power psu, nice cpu & ram (not sure what the mobo is they've just listed it as an intel p55 ...could be anything) just budget another at least another £250 for o/s,Gpu & hdd depending on what you need. Self build for a descent spec is gonna cost Gpu.......£150 Cpu.......£200 Hdd.......£50 Mobo.....£100 ram.......£80ish dvd.......£15 o/s.......£120ish psu(that will cope properly with the above)£120 Case ....£50 (and potentially a bit of agro somewhere along the line of the build :yes: ) budget above should build you a nice machine more than capable of running good framerate at HD1080 res. with todays games ................................ To Add just had a look the the price of i7 boards and ddr3 and they are still expensive despite the i7's themselves being quite reasonable. Another £200 on top of the above if your building an i7 rig

have you thought of getting something like the i5 in your 1st choice ( http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/pc/range/ifire.html ) but with a crap gpu then just fitting your own of your choice? may work out a lot cheaper as there are loads of good graphics cards about to be had for reasonable money

depends on use ....for gaming with a big monitor pref would go with quick gpu & cpu plus decent amount of ram(pref 4gb or more ram with 64 bit windows 7) looking at the i7 platform cpu's are getting a lot cheaper. My quad q9550 is dearer now than a few of the i7's so looks like it's time for an upgrade :shifty: I'm running a q9550 ,radeon 4870 (1gb) ,4gb corsair xms2, on a 24" HD monitor and that will run L4D 2 full everything @ 1080x1920 with no slowdown even when there's fire and stuff happening

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=293 We are a christian country apparently ???? perhaps they ought to cover all the churches and cathedrals over in tarpaulins not to offend anyone

Just bought stalker for £1.39 had it before on disc but got stuck and sold it lol that was when it was worth a bit of money. Thought i'd give it another go

Pc games run via the "steam" interface such as halflife , left 4 dead etc

just passing this on .................... soon as I get my monitor(hopefully today) gonna log on and buy stuff:punk: Check out Steam within the next 18 hours. Loads of deals. Ghostbusters just over a £5 Killing Floor £7.49 Borderlands £20. SeriousSam HD edition £13. Stalker for £1.39 and GTAIV for a fiver also the newest stalker £3.50 Stalker, Mirror's Edge and Outrun 2006 - £5.87 Well worth a look!

:santa::santa::santa::santa::santa:Merry freekin' xmas to all peeps:santa::santa::santa::rockon:

kettles and freezing weather always makes me stop and watch :rockon: