With recent shit that's been going on with these theiving tw**s. I'm sure someones alarm didn't even go off with the bood lid open. I just think it would be an idea for people to test their alarms once evry month or so, to make sure they actaully go off. As Bob has said over and over again, it's not how good the alarm is, it's how good the installer is.

 

Just an idea.........

 

Vijay

 

[This message has been edited by vijay (edited 03-09-2002).]

Yep just put my windscreen through bud,It works fine

 

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KEEP IT SIDEWAYS;).

Mine smoked away like a smoking beagle whilst I filled it up with fuel yesterday at a busy motorway service station!

 

Then I armed the alarm to go and pay, it waited until I was next in the queue to pay and decided to cry for help like a baby embaressing me beyond belief.

 

Then a girl and a lad pulled up in a Celica on the next row of pumps only to start whispering to each other whilst he was staring at my front spoiler. As I walked upto the car it was pumping a nice pool of coolant out of my over full expansion tank!

 

Sometimes these cars really have it in for their owners. LMFAO

 

 

 

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"I think we should take Iraq and Iran and combine them into

one country and call it Irate. All the pissed off people live

in one place and get it over with."

Denis Leary

Hmm, it showed me that what I need is one of those alarms with a proximity sensor ("Step away from the car!"), but one that doesn't trigger when cats sit on it. My thief was plainly an incompetent fool, and the problem wasn't so much stopping him from driving away or stealing stuff, as stopping him from damaging the outside of the car.

My previous car (Gen4 Celica) had prox sensors, but they only triggered once - I'd had it two years, never realised it was anything but a door alarm, until at 3:45a.m I was woken by it saying "..er detected, please step away from the car!" That was freakish. I bet it was that same damned kid as well... grrr

 

Getting back to subject: I'm surprised the ultrasonics didn't go off when he smashed the quarter-light, but then maybe nothing big enough came in (just a screwdriver shaft & some glass). He didn't even bother making the hole big enough to stick his hand in...

I've written to my local councillor now (oooo!) to complain about these dumb wannabe kids - basically, their facile newsletter came through the door the next day, all full of pride at how they have stirred the council into action over "ponding" problems at the toucan crossing (no mention of the burnt-out Peugeot that lives next to it...). Anyway, that wound me so much I mailed them.

 

God, I am so pathetic

I found that my boot lid was sensor was not connected correctly about 3 weeks after having it installed. I only noticed becuase I opened the boot to put something in, closed it, and then made me kak my pants when the alarm went off when I unlocked the driver door and opened it. The alarm didnt even go off with the huge thud of the boot closing. That means any one could have opened the boot taken my CD changer out and close the boot with out the alarm going off. Infact I tested it, and I opened the boot and got into the back seats and the alarm didnt go off. It only went off when I was climbing into the front seats. I could actually toucht the radio from the back seat with out the alarm going off.

 

Also the wireing on the boot and bonnet sensors is not what I expected. I would have thought that they would have been soldered on the the sensors then heat shrink wrap round it and to keep it nice and clean and sturdy. No, cráppy spade clips which are I think just cripmed and have a ton of electrical tape just slapped on. However the actual spade that connects to the sensor is exposed and can easily rust. A little tug on the wire infact and it will disconnect it.

 

To top it all off, I paid £225 JUST FOR THE ALARM. I wanted a Toad Cat1 but their site says RRP was £450. A few weeks after I was speaking to Bob and he gave me a price for a Cat1 Toad, the one I was looking at, and was only a little more than the £225 I spent on this shítty Meta I have on now. So far I have had an attempt at my car where the door handle was smashed and the alarm didnt go off with that.

 

People test your alarm and dont get a Meta.

 

Stuart

AHAHAHAHAHA

 

JUST TOOK MY OWN ADVICE AND I TESTED THE BONET SENSOR. GUESS WHAT? IT DIDNT WORK

 

 

DONT GET META!

 

Stuart

I am píssed of with Meta alarms,

I just sent them this

 

I have the M-36 M-99 immobilizer/alarm installed and I am sorry to say I am not impressed in the slightest. This may be either down to the system or a very poor installation.

Firstly I have had an attampt brake in of my car and the alarm didnt go off. Normally they wouldnt go off but a smashed up door and door handle, I have been told my certified alarm installers, is enough to set off the alarm. I know people alarms who goes off when you hit the screen. Also I found the boot sensor stopped working only 3 weeks after I had the alarm installed. I only found this out by openeing it and actually putting items in the boot and closing it. The boot is mostly glass and makes a huge thud as it is closed and the alarm didnt go off. I only realised that the alarms was on when the door was still locked. I unlocked the door with the key and the alarm sounded when I opened it, proof that is was armed. This meant any one could open my boot take out the CD changer close the boot with out the alarm sounding.

I also tested the alarm by seeing how car into the car I could get before it sounded. I made sure the sensors where pointing in the right place first and I managed to get to the rear seats with out it sounding. I also managed to touch the radio from the back seats with out it sounding again. It was only as I was halfway from getting into the from seats the alarm sounded.

This is not what I expect from an alarm system which cost me well over £200 and thats just for the alarm. The immobilizer was already installed.

Reacently I know a few people who have had thier cars broken into, and it was pointed out to test your alarm. So I did and now I find that the bonnet sensor is no longer working. The Meta alarm installer only put 2 sensors onto the car and both have failed. The 2 door sensors work because they are wired up to the cars own sensor for the internal light. These are over 10 years old and still work. The boot and bonnet sensors are less than a year old and have both failed.

I am not impressed about the internal sensors either. The fact they only detected a person in a car when I was only a inches away from them is not good enough by a long way. Yes the alarm was tested by the installer when I bought it, but the internal sensors where only tested by putting his hand through the window, about 3 inches from the sensor. Again I dont feel this is a good enough test for the alarm. Any further than that it wouldnt have picked anything up.

The only good thing that I will say about the alarm is that I have very few false alarms. But this may be due to the fact that half the sensors dont work.

The installation was rugged to. I have bright white boot sensor screwed onto black interior and then a black one in the bonnet. Surely it doesnt take to much to think that it will look better with black on black so it doesnt stand out. It makes it look very unprofessional.

The screws that hold the internal sensors onto the A-Pillar where not screwed in all the way, and I had to do that when I got home. Wires where dangling in the footwell and even though I tested it to be an alarm wire, the installers didnt go down there. However they did put that right.

I wanted the alarm to lock itself after a few mins. I took it back twice to have this enabled and both times when I got home I found it wasnt. So this means that they didnt do it at all, didnt do it correctly, it also shows that they didnt even test it.

I was also told that I shouldnt have it in because it causes problems when you wash your car, it keep setting the alarm off. I wash my car all with the alarm on all the time and it has never gone off once, which again shows me that a bust handle should have made the alarm go off, if a wet sponge hitting the car does.

 

As you can see that I have a number of problems with this alarm and a number of times I have had to take it back to have it fixed. I have had enough of it. I wish I never bought it and I want the alarm uninstalled and I want my money back. Please can you inform me about how to go about this.

I am sorry that it has to come to this, the Meta system may be a fine alarm, but my experience has not been nice. I think my car is secure when in fact its not.

 

Regards

 

Stuart Evans

 

 

FFS Vijay now look what you done,poor Stu is ready to jump from a bridge now .

 

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KEEP IT SIDEWAYS;).

Originally posted by MAC 1:

FFS Vijay now look what you done,poor Stu is ready to jump from a bridge now .

 

ROFLMFAO

 

Vijay is a cheeky firestarter make no mistake!

 

Stu don't do it mate...

 

The Samaritans

 

...or ring 08457 90 90 90

 

 

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"I think we should take Iraq and Iran and combine them into

one country and call it Irate. All the pissed off people live

in one place and get it over with."

Denis Leary

 

[This message has been edited by Timmy_Turbo (edited 03-09-2002).]

Hehehe.

 

You dont know how much agro I have had with that alarm though. I have took it back to the place about 5 times now.

Im OK now. About to settle watch the football at work. Paid to watch football. Job in heaven to some. But football is boring though.

 

Stuart.

 

[This message has been edited by SRRAE (edited 03-09-2002).]

Firestarter - me???????? Don't mess mate, I've got an Italian mum who don't take s**t when people start on her youngest!!!!

 

and there was me doing my good deed for the day and this is the thanks I get

 

I remember when I first got my motor I only noticed after about 2 weeks that the alarm was not locking the passanger door. Couldn't have made it any easier for some little F***ker......

 

Stu - don't do it mate..........

 

[This message has been edited by vijay (edited 03-09-2002).]

Hi,

 

Regarding alarms, does all cat 1 alarms have a boot sensor? I forgot to disarm my cobra cat 1 alarm the other day (as the car is new) and the alarm went off but i think there was a delay - so i am not sure if there is a boot sensor or if the general interior sensor cautght me (though the boot blind/roller thing was mostly shielding me)...

 

Barry

Yes a CAT1 has to have every door, boot and bonnet a sensor. To test if its the sensor that broke, is arm it and then open the boot but only a little and raise it slowly till it goes off. It should go off by the time the boot reaches an inch high

If the boot loght comes on then the sensor is working, also check both doors are connected as some installers are not aware that the 2 doors are not common fed i.e. the one wire does not do both doors. The alarm should go off as soon as the door is opened. To test it properly isolate any interior sensors you have (ultrasonics or microwave) so you know the switches are working and it`s not the sensors setting the alarm off.

 

Bob