been looking at Nobles, seen about 6 cars and then it sudenly struck me, they all had one major thing in common and ill now stop looking at them.

 

they had all had full engine rebuilds, a couple after 14K but mainly after 20K

 

cost of an enging rebuild, 18K

Hi,

Don't they just have Ford Mondeo engines?

I think its mainly because they are not driven like a mondeo, I bet many of them had seen a fair few track days.

 

I take my car to John Noble motorsport in Chesterfield to be setup on thier rollers.

 

Noble = 3.0 v6 TT, my car = 3.0 v6 TT

 

They have been very good, bloke who did my car knew exactly what he was dealing with.

They also looki like shit after a few years as the build / finish is appalling.

Hi,

Don't they just have Ford Mondeo engines?

 

 

yep, not a bad thing unless you throw into the mix they are highly uprated and as such are more prone to failure. Plus who wouldnt thrash the fook out of one, thats what they are on the plannet for isnt it.

The basis of the engine was taken from a Mondeo, but that's as far as it goes. Bit like saying we have Nissan Maxima engines in our Zs. The Duratec V6 is very heavily modified for the M12. The M10 on the other hand had an N/A version which iirc, is pretty much a stock engine.

 

They've used highly modified Duratec V6 engines in their M400, M14 and M15 also, so I doubt they'd carry on doing so if they were that prone to failure. I expect you were looking at early M12s.

M14 was the opne with 20K rebuild

Hi,

Did a search and found this on the Pistonheads site about Duratec V6's!......

 

"The Duratec V6 engines are not the best it has to be said.

The most common problems are head gaskets, piston slap and bore wear, and big end/ main bearing failure. In the last year we (I work for a Ford dealer) have replaced nine or ten engines, and they aren't that common an engine."

best forget about buying one of tehm then