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Ignition barrel on my 89 t/t auto was replaced with one from a 90 n/a.

by-passed the two wire switch that fits in the side of the barrel and lets you get it out of park, but no ignition lights ??

 

Car still starts and runs ok, selects gear etc but no ignition lights. Also, dont know if this is relevant, but the micro switch that lets you release the key is connected, but not fitted, just dangling loose just now as it kept jamming the key and wouldnt allow me to press the release button ??

Checked all the fuses in the drivers footwell, and the 2 fuse boxes under the bonnet, all ok. Almost 100% certain the ignition lights on the n/a car it came from had ignition lights, so would assume the replacement barrel is ok.

One last thing, there is also no indicators, and the boost gauge goes straight up as soon as the key is turned to the ignition position, and the fuel pump pressures up ok. :confused:

Old barrel was held together with cable ties and fell to bits when it was removed, so cant even try the old barrel back on.

 

Any help, most welcome.

 

Alan............

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Sounds to me like the new switch is a different spec. and needs different connections. With a bit of careful thought, a multimeter and the manual you may be able to reverse engineer it - good luck. I suspect buying an identical ignition switch will be easier.

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Sounds to me like the new switch is a different spec. and needs different connections. With a bit of careful thought, a multimeter and the manual you may be able to reverse engineer it - good luck. I suspect buying an identical ignition switch will be easier.

 

Cheers Andy,

 

Off hand, any idea if you can change the actual barrel complete with the tumblers ?? Could attempt to rebuild the old one and change over the barrel so as the key fits ?

 

LOL, only reason I am changing it, is because I had 3 different keys on my car ! One for the ignition, one for each door, and the old n/a I broke had one key for everything, so thought I would change them all over !! Simple 5 minute job I thought ! :o Should have known better, its a Zed ! :D

 

Alan..........

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OK, managed to reassemble the old barrel and its still the same, so any fuses I might have missed ?? Checked the one in the drivers footwell, and the 2 under the bonnet, any more hiding away ??

 

Alan..........

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Had a probe about with the multi meter and of the 5 wires that are in the plug at the ignition barrel, the white one appears to be a live feed and the black with the red tracer is the ignition. When it is switched to the ignition position, the black and red wire goes live, but still no ignition lights, indicators, tacho, speedo etc !! Very strange.

 

Alan.........

If it helps you can borrow the ignition barrel from my car for a few weeks as it will be a while before mine is running lol. It might help eliminate the fault.Or you could ask TTam if he still has one on his breaker. Let me know if you want it and i'll start stripping it out.

Cheers Steve.

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If it helps you can borrow the ignition barrel from my car for a few weeks as it will be a while before mine is running lol. It might help eliminate the fault.Or you could ask TTam if he still has one on his breaker. Let me know if you want it and i'll start stripping it out.

Cheers Steve.

 

 

Cheers Steve,

 

Give me a full day at it tomorrow and I can take it from there.

 

Wonder if I could have dislodged one of the plugs from the back of the dash when I removed the ign barrel loom ??

 

Alan

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Still doing my head in this one ! :confused:

Removed the dash, checked all the connections, everything seems to be in order. No loose wires, plugs etc, but still no ignition lights, or indicators, or tacho, fuel gauge etc.

 

Is there a fusible link in the circuit somewhere I might have overlooked ??

 

Alan.......

Alan

 

referring to diagrams EL6 and EL66 from the manual there seems to be a 10 amp fuse that feeds the Meter and gauges and the warning lamp and check connnector - I would double check this. It is Fuse 10 - I suspect that it is one of the ones in the footwell.

 

PS - does your rear window defog work and does the switch for it illuminate??

 

PPS - does your Time Control Unit Work????

 

Off out for a 40 mile bike ride now so not back for a coupla hours - good luck and catch ya later.

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Sorted !!!! :hyper: :dance: :nana2: :D

 

Told you it would be something stupid !

 

2nd row of fuses at the gas pedal, 3rd one in, 10amp.

Pulled every fuse and they all looked ok, put them all back in, same problem.

Replaced every fuse with a new one, and hey presto, success.

Although the fuse wasnt blown, it must have had a crack or something wrong inside, coz after a test with the meter and a test lamp, stil no current going through it ! Looks ok as well ? :confused:

Still, that passed a weekend, eh ? :o

 

Alan...........

Sorted !!!! :hyper: :dance: :nana2: :D

 

Told you it would be something stupid !

 

2nd row of fuses at the gas pedal, 3rd one in, 10amp.

Pulled every fuse and they all looked ok, put them all back in, same problem.

Replaced every fuse with a new one, and hey presto, success.

Although the fuse wasnt blown, it must have had a crack or something wrong inside, coz after a test with the meter and a test lamp, stil no current going through it ! Looks ok as well ? :confused:

Still, that passed a weekend, eh ? :o

 

Alan...........

 

 

Nicely done :bow: - I suspect that the fuse you replaced is Fuse 10 :D as on the diagram on EL-6 it is shown as the second row down 3rd one in

 

Have a :duffer:

Sorted !!!! :hyper: :dance: :nana2: :D

 

Told you it would be something stupid !

 

2nd row of fuses at the gas pedal, 3rd one in, 10amp.

Pulled every fuse and they all looked ok, put them all back in, same problem.

Replaced every fuse with a new one, and hey presto, success.

Although the fuse wasnt blown, it must have had a crack or something wrong inside, coz after a test with the meter and a test lamp, stil no current going through it ! Looks ok as well ? :confused:

Still, that passed a weekend, eh ? :o

 

Alan...........

Well done mate :D

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Cheers guys,

Next time somebody looks at a fuse and says, "Aye, that looks allright"

 

Think again !! :nono:

 

Alan.........

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