The angle of these as they come in to land due to the cross winds is just plane freaky, i hope they haven't done that while i'm on board lol

 

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/39256/crosswinds/

Drifting a Jumbo :shock:

 

That has to be pure control, it looks so graceful

Have to agree with you mate very gracefull.

 

Having been on planes that have bonced on landing that was a perfect landing in comparsion.

awesome that, got to admire those pilots if its not the auto pilot bringing them in, i wonder how the fook they straiten the planes up on touchdown with no steering at 200mph? Rev the Engines on one side, you think?

Seen that before on Discovery channel. I've only ever experience one very rough landing and that was in a storm while landing at Hartsfield airport in Atlanta. Plane was all over the shop and we had a strange landing experience where the plane felt like it was twisting on the runway. Guess it must have looked a little like thise videos.

Rudder/flaps I imagine. Very impressive. Imagine the kind of stress the tyres have to endure when the plane spins round on them.

 

Shame about the backing music: I had to mute the sound for fear of yakking up my lunch. Enigma. :ralph: Can't believe I actually bought that album back in the day.

Shame about the backing music: I had to mute the sound for fear of yakking up my lunch. Enigma. :ralph: Can't believe I actually bought that album back in the day.

 

 

:rofl:

 

I threw mine in the bin not so long ago after clearing the loft!

awesome that, got to admire those pilots if its not the auto pilot bringing them in, i wonder how the fook they straiten the planes up on touchdown with no steering at 200mph? Rev the Engines on one side, you think?

 

If you read some of the comments on there by pilots it seems you flick the rudder at the last minute to bring it round although it says the Boeing stuff has "auto-land" with sensors that rotate the landing gear to line up with the angle of the runway before it makes contact :shock:

Impressive flying skills - I get the feeling that they may have been (apart from the Jumbo) single engined approaches carried out as part of FAA and CAA certification.

If you read some of the comments on there by pilots it seems you flick the rudder at the last minute to bring it round although it says the Boeing stuff has "auto-land" with sensors that rotate the landing gear to line up with the angle of the runway before it makes contact :shock:

 

indeed the rudder, directional control about the normal axis ;) although the use of the rudder is counter-acting the crosswind to start with with some slight spoiler inputs to stop it from rolling (when a rudder input is carried out the aircraft will 'yaw', this will create a faster airflow over one wing and a decreased airflow over the other, creating differential lift and a rolling motion, therefore the spoilers will make slight automatic movements to keep it straight.

 

the fact that autoland rotates the landing gear is a figure of speech, the gear doesnt actually move inside the wheel well, the autopilot rotates the aircraft bringing the gear in line with the runway, using the above controls. they use what are called gyroscopes and inertial reference systems which are constantly mapping and inputting the controls. many other controls are subtly used in the manouvres but those are the basics of landng in what is called a 'crabbing' situation.

 

theres my bit,

 

Joel.

the fact that autoland rotates the landing gear is a figure of speech, the gear doesnt actually move inside the wheel well, the autopilot rotates the aircraft bringing the gear in line with the runway, using the above controls. they use what are called gyroscopes and inertial reference systems which are constantly mapping and inputting the controls. many other controls are subtly used in the manouvres but those are the basics of landng in what is called a 'crabbing' situation.

 

theres my bit,

 

Joel.

 

Well one of the guys on there mentions autoland correcting the landing like you described but then another says it's different on the Boeings:

 

"The 777 and 747 have dynamic undercarriage, which in laymans terms is a computer connection between a yaw indicator and the directional controll of the main undercarriage... yes... you read correctly... the undercarriage steers and the main oleos angle towards the direction of the approaching tarmac.

Amazing isn't it... Doesn't make these pilots any less heroes for pulling it off... but the technology sure does help."

 

It says on the old B52's you could steer the wheels manually from the cockpit as they were too sluggish to correct at the last minute.

 

It's probably like this forum though - most of the replies are BS! LOL

 

Those vids are all FAA tests for maximum crosswind landings to stress the undercarriage and the aircraft are all in Boeing test colours so luckily no passengers aboard! LOL

 

Wish I had bigger wings on my Z, I've flown a Cessna once or twice :D :rofl:

Landing in a microlight in a cross wind isn't quite as graceful!

Well one of the guys on there mentions autoland correcting the landing like you described but then another says it's different on the Boeings:

 

"The 777 and 747 have dynamic undercarriage, which in laymans terms is a computer connection between a yaw indicator and the directional controll of the main undercarriage... yes... you read correctly... the undercarriage steers and the main oleos angle towards the direction of the approaching tarmac.

Amazing isn't it... Doesn't make these pilots any less heroes for pulling it off... but the technology sure does help."

 

It says on the old B52's you could steer the wheels manually from the cockpit as they were too sluggish to correct at the last minute.

 

It's probably like this forum though - most of the replies are BS! LOL

 

Those vids are all FAA tests for maximum crosswind landings to stress the undercarriage and the aircraft are all in Boeing test colours so luckily no passengers aboard! LOL

 

Wish I had bigger wings on my Z, I've flown a Cessna once or twice :D :rofl:

 

talking out of their backsides chris... the jumbos and various bigger kites do have bogies that steer on the ground and operate to assist in exactly the same way as the nose wheel steering but at a limited angle. these cannot be operated without air/ground sensing being on the ground and only below a certain speed (less than 50mph iirc)... landing the aircraft with either the nose wheel or mainwheel at any +or- angle would have devistating effects!

 

i hope it was an undercarriage stress test as the pilot showed no signs of trying to correct the crab before touchdown lol, normally they are trained to touchdown both mains simultaneously by exiting the crab at the last minute. though pilots that arent particularly good at there job, with heavy landings etc keep me employed and keep the overtime topped up!

 

Joel :)

reminds me of coming into land at Bristol airport in a gale once, looked out the side window and found I was looking straight down the runway... about 50ft above the tarmack the pilot swung the plane round and made a perfect landing.... had me fookin worried though

incredible stuff!