Looks like someone has been upto no good, don`t know if any of you were involved in this............

 

http://www.skylineowners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=37936

I reckon the reason it went like it did was because he couldn't sell enough tickets to cover it. The most obvious thing to me is £4100 ebay auction + £1500 (75 ticket at £20 a pop) = £5600, roughly what he wanted for the car. His mate gets a cheap car. Maybe I'm being suspicious, but probably not!

 

Dave

 

Nah, he's a dumb ass scamming mofo!

 

I for one, would defo make sure that people were present for the draw. There is no chance i would just bugger off. Kicked out a servie station for trying to do a draw? my arse!

I cant believe that anyone is still in doubt?

 

Now he has shit hes self and is trying to make people think hes doing the decent thing. I would get my money back and then still break hes arms. :xxx:

He is online now asking for everyone that paid him £20 for the tickets to email him, does this mean as he has no records of who has paid what we can all email him asking for £20?? LOL

anyone want a raffle ticket for a white zed?

I am going to raffle my car next week. I will be only selling one ticket and I want £4500 per ticket. any takers? Draw date to be announced draw location pub car park in london somewhere.

this is turning into a fookin farce !!!!!

hi guys.viewing both threas on both forums at the moment watching the chaos.if i was financially involved in this fiasco i wopuld still report it to the police

 

reasons why....

 

1.The whole Ebay contraversy.Very strange the winner was 5 miles down the road and same name as the one who won the raffle

 

2.the whole changing venus for drawing the winner and the fact that nobody seems to have witnessed it except him

 

3.For his own safety should be in custody of Police before he gets his legs broken!lol

hi guys.viewing both threas on both forums at the moment watching the chaos.if i was financially involved in this fiasco i wopuld still report it to the police

 

reasons why....

 

1.The whole Ebay contraversy.Very strange the winner was 5 miles down the road and same name as the one who won the raffle

 

2.the whole changing venus for drawing the winner and the fact that nobody seems to have witnessed it except him

 

3.For his own safety should be in custody of Police before he gets his legs broken!lol

 

 

 

yep!!!!

i wouldnt be suprised if he does get a visit from the police.At the moment he has got away lightly by just returning the cash to those who ask for it.Theres most likely to be plenty who havent got internet access at the mo,on holiday etc who will never see their money!

this is turning into a fookin farce !!!!!

 

I would call it taking the piss out of a twat that thought he could get away with conning fellow car entusiasts. Nothing on this site can be done to ease the financial loss of those that partisipated in the scam so the next best thing to do is make light of the situation and hope he gets whats coming to him. the Farce is the fact that the raffle never existed IMO and he knew exactly what he was doing in the first place. All that shit about giving the money back is because he knows "its on top" and he has been tumbled.

 

WHAT A TWAT

I've just spoke to Paul on the phone. He's now got the car back off of Nick and is refunding the tickets that were sold. Apparently only 75 tickets were actually paid for with the others supposed to be paid for before the auction. Regardless of what actually happened he is definately making the right decision! I wouldn't envy anyone having 75 disgruntled car owners on their doorstep. I'll post up once the money has been sent through. Dave

 

looking at whats going on m8, i would stay out of it if i was you,

be so easy to get dragged into some heavy shite;)

:rant: :rant: :shock: -That is just wrong!-the fact he's still breathing I mean! :mac1: :mac1:

looking at whats going on m8, i would stay out of it if i was you,

be so easy to get dragged into some heavy shite;)

 

 

here here. ok you can express your views but i deffo wouldnt get involved in it

I would call it taking the piss out of a twat that thought he could get away with conning fellow car entusiasts. Nothing on this site can be done to ease the financial loss of those that partisipated in the scam so the next best thing to do is make light of the situation and hope he gets whats coming to him. the Farce is the fact that the raffle never existed IMO and he knew exactly what he was doing in the first place. All that shit about giving the money back is because he knows "its on top" and he has been tumbled.

 

WHAT A TWAT

 

 

The farce i meant is his p*ss poor excuses and the fact he wont admit to fraud so i wiv ya there vin !!

Having just read the posts on the skyline site this Paul is clearly a fraudster and is laughing his arse off at everyone paying a few quid here and there to try and stop some of the louder voices from rallying any kind of action.

It is sad but was only a matter of time before someone did this - the ticket auction requires too much trust and easy to take advantage of.

He is as likely to be in Poole as he is on the moon.

If he has been selling tickets for the last 6 months then he has probably made about £150,000 and paying a couple of people back here and there is peanuts to what he has made and it means he will be able to keep one step ahead for a little while longer.

 

Just my 2p

 

Ivan

The farce i meant is his p*ss poor excuses and the fact he wont admit to fraud so i wiv ya there vin !!

 

Sorry mate I guessed that was what you was saying and was trying to agree but it sort of went a bit off subject. LOL. I lost sweet FA but am still furious with the bloke I can imagine how those who got stung must feel mate.

I'm involved because I bought two tickets. I've know his address as I was based just down the road for 3 years whilst in the Marines. He's just paid me the £40 back via paypal + £2 charges, so thats good. I find it hard to believe there was nothing untoward going on at the end but I think that maybe it started off genuine but then went pair shaped when he didn't sell enough tickets.

I'm involved because I bought two tickets. I've know his address as I was based just down the road for 3 years whilst in the Marines. He's just paid me the £40 back via paypal + £2 charges, so thats good. I find it hard to believe there was nothing untoward going on at the end but I think that maybe it started off genuine but then went pair shaped when he didn't sell enough tickets.

 

re my post about not getting involved m8

i meant don't offer to act as go between, or pass on info etc etc

as it could soon go pear shaped, especially when suddenly they can't get hold of this guy, this guy has dug his own hole....

 

i saw a post replying to you, offereing to do summat, and someones reply was "who are you" which just shows how easy it is to be caught up in summat innocently;)

Yeah, that was on SOX wasn't it. I was just spreading around what was going on as people didn't seem to know what was going on on some of the other forums as the bloke hadn't told them that he had supposedly already drawn the raffle. I didn't want him to get away with anything. I would have paid the bloke a visit if I needed to, but in the end the sheer weight of numbers of p*ssed people made him pay up. He was polite enough on the phone to me and protested innocence, but I find it pretty hard to believe.

pay your money take your chance,

 

scams like this are as old as time itself,

 

problem is honest people running this type of thing risk the chance of losing out because of disgruntled people not winning ect ect.

 

TBH the fact that people resort to raffling their cars shows where the "scene" has gone really.

Yeah, agree with you Mike. I had a go after speaking to him and the fact that he lived down the road and I could have taken a camp full of Marines down there if there was any problems. I didn't really care about the £40 but the fact that it looked so blatent got up my nose. I didn't like the thought of someone taking people on the forums for a ride. I'm still toying with the idea of contacting the police. I'm watching to see that everyone gets their money back first. Dave

one thing i've learnt is get the police involved asap, otherwise you just up in trouble with them,

 

shame it's not like TV, where you have an honest fight and that's the end of it,

anyone want a raffle ticket for a white zed?

 

Now if you'd said RED!!! LOL :D

Very dodgy indeed. Interestingly though, that eBay auction finished in mid-November. Not sure what to infer from that TBH. What an idiot though. Funnily enough I think I've probably seen that skyline knocking around in Dorchester once (there aren't that many white skylines in Dorset)... maybe I should have rammed him on the high street if I'd known (joke).

Have now read virtually all of this sorry tale. What a complete swine! Can only come to the conclusion that everybody else has: he flogged the car to this guy Nick on eBay, then persuaded him to get involved in the raffle scam to pretend he won it fair and square. Unbelievable.